White Sox ranked 22nd best farm system

[caulfield12]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2202809...-season/page/10

 

 

Obviously, 50% of this is due to Rodon's presence alone, but the article nicely sums up the progress this year of Anderson, Hawkins, Montas, Danish and Adams, as well as Micah Johnson. (Whether you agree or disagree, Danish is already being placed here on the "future bullpen piece" list instead of being viewed as a starter, at least for the moment.)

 

So, despite the "disappointments" with Semien, Daniel Webb, Erik Johnson, Davidson...and that earlier "core" group of outfielders in Walker/Thompson/Mitchell, things are looking up for the moment.

Edited October 10, 2014 by raBBit

[LDF]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2202809...-season/page/10

 

 

Obviously, 50% of this is due to Rodon's presence alone, but the article nicely sums up the progress this year of Anderson, Hawkins, Montas, Danish and Adams, as well as Micah Johnson. (Whether you agree or disagree, Danish is already being placed here on the "future bullpen piece" list instead of being viewed as a starter, at least for the moment.)

 

So, despite the "disappointments" with Semien, Daniel Webb, Erik Johnson, Davidson...and that earlier "core" group of outfielders in Walker/Thompson/Mitchell, things are looking up for the moment.

 

considering the graduation of Semien and no mention of Micah Johnson and Sanchez

I think the system is higher than I thought it would be.

[witesoxfan]

considering the graduation of Semien and no mention of Micah Johnson and Sanchez

I think the system is higher than I thought it would be.

 

This is why I hate these rankings. Yes, it's nice to know who is the best, who is the worst, and where do they rank otherwise, but as a White Sox fan, our only concern should be "is the White Sox collective pool of talent increasing and are there going to be significant contributors to the MLB team?" The answer to both is yes.

 

 

[NorthSideSox72]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2202809...-season/page/10

 

 

Obviously, 50% of this is due to Rodon's presence alone, but the article nicely sums up the progress this year of Anderson, Hawkins, Montas, Danish and Adams, as well as Micah Johnson. (Whether you agree or disagree, Danish is already being placed here on the "future bullpen piece" list instead of being viewed as a starter, at least for the moment.)

 

So, despite the "disappointments" with Semien, Daniel Webb, Erik Johnson, Davidson...and that earlier "core" group of outfielders in Walker/Thompson/Mitchell, things are looking up for the moment.

Bleacher Report is a garbage site.

 

That said, putting the Sox system 22nd is close to what others have said recently, around 20th.

 

Also, I really wouldn't put Semien and Webb in the same group as Johnson and Davidson. The first two struggled a bit but still showed strong signs of likely future success. The latter two, well... those were big disappointments (though I wouldn't write either off yet).

 

 

[bmags]

I think we are two years away from not only having a stable group of future starters but also enough depth to trade without destroying the system.

 

When the first bit of progress is made you get excited and think you are close, but boy, rebuilding up that farm really does take a long time.

[caulfield12]

I think we are two years away from not only having a stable group of future starters but also enough depth to trade without destroying the system.

 

When the first bit of progress is made you get excited and think you are close, but boy, rebuilding up that farm really does take a long time.

 

 

And we're also a serious injury to Sale/Quintana/Rodon from the whole thing falling apart, too.

 

We're right there in the middle. It could teeter totter either way.

 

If Montas and Danish both end up in the pen, all the remaining hopes would be pinned to Bassitt, Beck, Rodon and Adams. If they both managed to stick as starters (and we should hope and pray for just one), then you'd really have something.

 

I have a feeling Sanburn is the one they look to closing first (among the minor leaguers), and Montas becomes Option D or E after Petricka/Sanburn/FA/trade going into Spring Training.

[Y2Jimmy0]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2202809...-season/page/10

 

 

Obviously, 50% of this is due to Rodon's presence alone, but the article nicely sums up the progress this year of Anderson, Hawkins, Montas, Danish and Adams, as well as Micah Johnson. (Whether you agree or disagree, Danish is already being placed here on the "future bullpen piece" list instead of being viewed as a starter, at least for the moment.)

 

So, despite the "disappointments" with Semien, Daniel Webb, Erik Johnson, Davidson...and that earlier "core" group of outfielders in Walker/Thompson/Mitchell, things are looking up for the moment.

 

It's so lazy that people look at Danish's delivery and make him a future bullpen piece. Watch the kid pitch. I wouldn't be surprised if he's starting at Charlotte to end next season.

 

[LDF]

This is why I hate these rankings. Yes, it's nice to know who is the best, who is the worst, and where do they rank otherwise, but as a White Sox fan, our only concern should be "is the White Sox collective pool of talent increasing and are there going to be significant contributors to the MLB team?" The answer to both is yes.

 

i really hate piggybacking on other opinions but here i need to.

 

a long time ago, when jon rauch (sp) was ranked #1 in all of the 100

prospect list, many posters were talking him up. i was involve in a huge

argument on the sox system. i am a firm believer that the system while

it is great to have a very highly rated system is to feed the major league

team.

 

many yrs laters, i still believe in that. whether it is thru advancement or to use

them, smartly thru trades to get the necessary pieces.

[NorthSideSox72]

It's so lazy that people look at Danish's delivery and make him a future bullpen piece. Watch the kid pitch. I wouldn't be surprised if he's starting at Charlotte to end next season.

His delivery definitely gives me pause, and I don't think that's lazy. It puts stress on places that other deliveries don't - it's a risk you have to take into account with him. Doesn't mean he can't start, it just means he has a risk to his career as a starter that MAY make him a reliever later.

 

[bmags]

It's still annoying. It's one of those things where every writer feels the need to throw out there from here eternal as some sort of safeguard. "See guys, I know what's going on, I'll comment about how his delivery means we should downgrade him so if it does happen I'm smart but if it doesn't I'm still good too"

[NorthSideSox72]

It's still annoying. It's one of those things where every writer feels the need to throw out there from here eternal as some sort of safeguard. "See guys, I know what's going on, I'll comment about how his delivery means we should downgrade him so if it does happen I'm smart but if it doesn't I'm still good too"

Again, I think in Danish's case, it is a very valid point to keep in mind. Call it whatever you will, but I'm not a guy to mention it just to say "see I was right!". I want him to succeed. Heck, his delivery isn't necessarily even my biggest concern with him, but I do have it in the back of my head.

 

Evaluating these guys means you ALWAYS keep negatives and risks in mind. Every prospect has them. Ignoring them makes no more sense than ignoring positive tools and traits.

 

 

[LDF]

 

I really had a problem with the bleacher rpt and I couldn't put my finger on it, until

now.

 

what pisses me off is why did they not submit their list of the 10 prospect. not

only several names. so who else is on that list or better yet, who was left off

and why? how can we as fans find a line that be gaged.

[Boopa1219]

BR is good at reporting, analyzing and covering every sport but baseball. I do like their prospect section however.

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

Ugh, B/R.

 

In good baseball source news, Fangraph's new lead prospect guy Kiley McDaniel will be putting out his Sox list in the next 7-10 days I would bet. He has plans for the Cubs list to come out next Wednesday, and the Sox would follow after. He doesn't do a top 10, or top 25, he does "Until the interesting players run out" list. I think he has done up to 30 for some teams. And he writes up at least a paragraph about every player.

 

Here is the one he released today on the Astros. I can't wait for his analysis of the Sox. He calls and emails a bunch of scouts both in the org. and out of it to get info on the players. Seems really in depth.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/evaluating-...houston-astros/

[GreenSox]

Ideally, the Sox far system would permanently reside in that 10-15 range; that would mean the Sox are drafting well, developing well; but no one is just sitting down there forever - the farm is used to replenish the major league team and for an occasional trade.

It's unlikely that the Sox system will be over-hyped (like Boston) so that it can deliver prospects to MLB and still reside in the top 5 most years.

Edited October 11, 2014 by GreenSox

[Y2Jimmy0]

This guy is a decent twitter follow. He posted his White Sox top 20.

 

http://topprospectalert.com/2014/10/14/chi...spect-rankings/

[SoxAce]

This guy is a decent twitter follow. He posted his White Sox top 20.

 

http://topprospectalert.com/2014/10/14/chi...spect-rankings/

Tyler Danish LHP oof.

[GreenSox]

Good list.

Where do we figure to be? 15-20?

[oldsox]

Ideally, the Sox far system would permanently reside in that 10-15 range; that would mean the Sox are drafting well, developing well; but no one is just sitting down there forever - the farm is used to replenish the major league team and for an occasional trade.

It's unlikely that the Sox system will be over-hyped (like Boston) so that it can deliver prospects to MLB and still reside in the top 5 most years.

Ideally, the Sox farm system would permanently reside in that 1-5 range; that would mean the Sox are drafting well and developing well. 1-5 is better than 10-15.

[LDF]

Ideally, the Sox farm system would permanently reside in that 1-5 range; that would mean the Sox are drafting well and developing well. 1-5 is better than 10-15.

 

this is a vicious circle. the sox using the players and loosing them thru attrition. they

are stepping into roles for the parent club.

 

there is going to be a time when that will slow down to a crawl. prospects will not be

moving up and the farm system will get rated higher. however that will develop a pool

for using from trades.

 

 

[witesoxfan]

Ideally, the Sox farm system would permanently reside in that 1-5 range; that would mean the Sox are drafting well and developing well. 1-5 is better than 10-15.

 

That won't happen. Teams in the 1-5 range are stockpiling assets to try and fill holes at the MLB level through a numbers game. They aren't trading those away. Teams who are competitive on a regular basis will make decisions on those prospects prematurely so they can add to other holes.

 

Yes, ideally they'd have essentially a monopoly on all of the prospects and they'd be able to just plug and play as needed, but we can't do that as we do in video games.