BaconOnAStick Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?s...ilb&org=145 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 also A.J Puckett's WS debut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 12:35 PM) also A.J Puckett's WS debut Fulmer should be converted to being a reliever sooner rather than later. Barring a massive turnaround I do not see the future rotation having room for him. He should focus on becoming a quality reliever, which is still a very valuable player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 01:37 PM) Fulmer should be converted to being a reliever sooner rather than later. Barring a massive turnaround I do not see the future rotation having room for him. He should focus on becoming a quality reliever, which is still a very valuable player. I still think they give him until Mid-2018 or maybe all 2018 to work out as a starter. Not saying I fully agree but I can't see them basically giving him up yet especially with how they rushed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 01:37 PM) Fulmer should be converted to being a reliever sooner rather than later. Barring a massive turnaround I do not see the future rotation having room for him. He should focus on becoming a quality reliever, which is still a very valuable player. There is no reason as of yet to convert him. This is his first full season as a minor league starting pitcher. Realistically he shouldn't even be at AAA yet. He can be made a reliever at any time. He can't be made a starter at any time. Let him start, give him his reps, let him work on mechanics, release point, and mental approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I've always been of the mindset that Fulmer was just rushed through the system. I believe they were doing that when they thought they had a window to compete, and wanted to be apart of it. None the less, I think that he should keep getting starts at the Triple-A level. Worst case scenario to me, is that he is a solid reliever for the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 01:47 PM) There is no reason as of yet to convert him. This is his first full season as a minor league starting pitcher. Realistically he shouldn't even be at AAA yet. He can be made a reliever at any time. He can't be made a starter at any time. Let him start, give him his reps, let him work on mechanics, release point, and mental approach. This. No reason to give up yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I don't see how pitching out of the pen is going to help Fulmer's problems. It would be one thing if he was having control problems but still missing bats, but that's just not the case. His K/BB ratio is comically bad and wasn't much better when he was 22 in AA last year. Bad control and inability to miss bats just isn't a good combo. Maybe I'm biased because I didn't like the pick form day 1, but I have very little hope for Fulmer ever being a quality pitcher in any role. Hopefully he can prove me wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 06:20 PM) I don't see how pitching out of the pen is going to help Fulmer's problems. It would be one thing if he was having control problems but still missing bats, but that's just not the case. His K/BB ratio is comically bad and wasn't much better when he was 22 in AA last year. Bad control and inability to miss bats just isn't a good combo. Maybe I'm biased because I didn't like the pick form day 1, but I have very little hope for Fulmer ever being a quality pitcher in any role. Hopefully he can prove me wrong though. They f***ed up the pick the minute they let any "he can help us this year" thinking enter the equation. Thankfully that thinking has gone out the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Yikes Cease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 06:35 PM) Yikes Cease He didn't get injured right? They just pulled him to ineffectiveness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 12:40 AM) He didn't get injured right? They just pulled him to ineffectiveness? Seems like ineffectiveness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 What's Zavala's reputation defensively these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) Eloy good again. Zavala continues to be interesting. Hope to see Burger and Rutherford heat up again Edited August 10, 2017 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 12:20 AM) I don't see how pitching out of the pen is going to help Fulmer's problems. It would be one thing if he was having control problems but still missing bats, but that's just not the case. His K/BB ratio is comically bad and wasn't much better when he was 22 in AA last year. Bad control and inability to miss bats just isn't a good combo. Maybe I'm biased because I didn't like the pick form day 1, but I have very little hope for Fulmer ever being a quality pitcher in any role. Hopefully he can prove me wrong though. I'm with you here, if he wasn't a high pick, he would be an afterthought in the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Anthony Coronado in DSL 3-4 with a double and a homer. 18 doubles and 4 home runs on the year. Pretty nice season so far for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) WS with 5 errors on the night... yuck Edited August 10, 2017 by Scoots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 That Charlotte lineup would have been a fun one in 2014. Asche, Liriano, Gillaspie, and Peterson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Ramon Beltre certainly is interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Gillaspie with a HR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 White Sox have 3 of the top 13 minor league pitchers ranked by whiff %. Cease leads the Sox with the 5th best in the entire minors, Hansen is 11th, and Kopech is 13th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 10:45 PM) Ramon Beltre certainly is interesting. Isn't he kinda old? Was taking in DSL but I thought he was like 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 07:37 AM) Isn't he kinda old? Was taking in DSL but I thought he was like 23 He's 20 but turns 21 in October. If they push him to Kannapolis next year, he'd be age appropriate. And I'm not sure there is anyone ahead of him on the 2B depth chart. I honestly don't know much about him, but assuming he has some tools I'd give him a shot based on his results so far. The plate discipline is pretty impressive for a young LatAm prospect in our system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 01:47 PM) There is no reason as of yet to convert him. This is his first full season as a minor league starting pitcher. Realistically he shouldn't even be at AAA yet. He can be made a reliever at any time. He can't be made a starter at any time. Let him start, give him his reps, let him work on mechanics, release point, and mental approach. Agree completely with this. He just needs to rebound and I think he can. He can come out of the pen worst case scenario. I feel like due to his struggles and the load of new prospects, he's forgotten about. Sox rushed him and he clearly wasn't ready last season. I do think he can be nasty out of the pen and I envision him a late inning guy maybe setting up Burdi in a couple years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 07:53 PM) Agree completely with this. He just needs to rebound and I think he can. He can come out of the pen worst case scenario. I feel like due to his struggles and the load of new prospects, he's forgotten about. Sox rushed him and he clearly wasn't ready last season. I do think he can be nasty out of the pen and I envision him a late inning guy maybe setting up Burdi in a couple years. I agree Fulmer was rushed, but I also feel that other pitching prospects in the system have overtaken him and are more likely to pan out as starting pitchers at this point (Giolito, Lopez, Hansen, Dunning, Adams, Guerrero, Stephens). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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