2017-18 official NBA discussion thread

[bmags]

There seems to be plenty of reasons out there.

 

I’m modifying how I don’t know why I’m rooting for the bucks even with Kidd as coach.

[southsider2k5]

Sun-Times Sports‏ @suntimes_sports 2h2 hours ago Jimmy Butler: “It was either gonna me or the Fred Hoiberg route. And rightfully so, [the #Bulls] took Fred.” http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/jimmy-butler-bulls-fred-hoiberg/amp …://http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/...d-hoiberg/amp …

 

 

[southsider2k5]

Joe Cowley is saying that the Bulls are siding more with Portis than Niko.

 

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/11/08/rumor-...nikola-mirotic/

[Rowand44]

Chicago getting the All Star game in 2020. That's cool.

[soxsoxsoxsox]

Chicago getting the All Star game in 2020. That's cool.

 

at least Chicago basketball will be relevant for one thing in 2020

[Jordan4life_2007]

at least Chicago basketball will be relevant for one thing in 2020

 

It will be relevant for more than that if we land one of Porter/Bagley/Ayton. Those are three future superstars right there.

[Rowand44]

It will be relevant for more than that if we land one of Porter/Bagley/Ayton. Those are three future superstars right there.

Gonna be fun having Markkanen, Lavine and Porter in this game as a Bulls fan.

[Jordan4life_2007]

Um, remember when I said Porzingis was a generational talent and folks hated on me? I was wrong. He's an ALL-TIME talent. 7'3 with that skillset? Good god. I'm shook.

[southsider2k5]

Rick Morrissey‏Verified account @MorrisseyCST 1h1 hour ago Mirotic and Portis together at the #Bulls' facility, but not talking to each other. Could it get any more awkward?

 

 

[Soxbadger]

Super early take, Bagley goes #1.

[Steve9347]

Um, remember when I said Porzingis was a generational talent and folks hated on me? I was wrong. He's an ALL-TIME talent. 7'3 with that skillset? Good god. I'm shook.

The response of crickets you hear is all the haters who can't admit you were right.

[Quin]

Um, remember when I said Porzingis was a generational talent and folks hated on me? I was wrong. He's an ALL-TIME talent. 7'3 with that skillset? Good god. I'm shook.

 

Def remember your hype around Porzingis and how he should have been #1

[Dick Allen]

I really want to like Kris Dunn. He needs to play the old 6 on 6 girls style, where all he plays is defense. He looks like a potential star on that end, but looks like Cam Payne on th offensive end.

[bmags]

Bulls were interesting for about a week and unbearable since.

[soxsoxsoxsox]

Bulls were interesting for about a week and unbearable since.

 

I'm so sick of hearing stories about Mirotic and Portis. They run their team worse than a kindergarten.

 

 

 

 

[Y2Jimmy0]

I'm so sick of hearing stories about Mirotic and Portis. They run their team worse than a kindergarten.

 

 

I'm not really sure what they're supposed to do here. Mirotic and Portis need to sit and hash it out or Mirotic probably shouldn't be at the facility. They aren't trading Portis and can't trade Mirotic until January 15th.

[Dick Allen]

Niko is really getting a lot of crap in the media for not "acting grown up". I wonder what these people would think about working with someone who just busted their face.

 

Yeah, you'll miss some work but when you get back, you just sit in a room and work it out with this person. I'm thinking that wouldn't happen in the real world.

 

Niko's stance is justified. What Portis did is a criminal act.

Edited November 16, 2017 by Dick Allen

[Kyyle23]

Niko is really getting a lot of crap in the media for not "acting grown up". I wonder what these people would think about working with someone who just busted their face.

 

Yeah, you'll miss some work but when you get back, you just sit in a room and work it out with this person. I'm thinking that wouldn't happen in the real world.

 

Niko's stance is justified. What Portis did is a criminal act.

 

Its not nearly that simple, DA. Niko pushed him twice, then stepped at him like he was going to hit him and THEN Portis busted his face. Nobody in the real world would be like "Niko is justified, portis is a criminal". They would be like "Portis defended himself after Niko pushed him twice and then acted like he was gonna throw a punch"

 

But this isnt the real world, this is a sport where guys get into dustups. They both lost valuable time on the court for their respective careers. Its time for Niko to play, and he is going to have to play with Portis. He doesnt have to forgive and forget, but he is going to have to suck it up until one of them goes to another organization

[Dick Allen]

Its not nearly that simple, DA. Niko pushed him twice, then stepped at him like he was going to hit him and THEN Portis busted his face. Nobody in the real world would be like "Niko is justified, portis is a criminal". They would be like "Portis defended himself after Niko pushed him twice and then acted like he was gonna throw a punch"

 

But this isnt the real world, this is a sport where guys get into dustups. They both lost valuable time on the court for their respective careers. Its time for Niko to play, and he is going to have to play with Portis. He doesnt have to forgive and forget, but he is going to have to suck it up until one of them goes to another organization

I understand that, although the initial reports were Portis sucker punched him after some shoving. Now, since it's pile on Niko time, the tide goes the other direction. There are fights and there are fights. Breaking someone's face is not defending yourself. I don't know why so few can't understand Niko's position. He's fine with leaving. It has to wait. He's not comfortable around the guy. I don't think that is acting like a child.

 

Kendall Gill punched the Doyle idiot from NU and got fired. He didn't send him to the hospital.

 

It was apparent once this happened, one of them needed to go. I really don't think it will cost the Bulls any titles either way it turns out. If they want it to go away quickly, send Portis on his way, or let Niko ride a bike until it's time he can be dealt.

Edited November 16, 2017 by Dick Allen

[bmags]

I agree with DA. I don't really think the Bulls just saying "wellp, you are both still on the team, work it out" is enough. It is a physical game with lots of intensity, but there is a difference between pushes and punches.

 

This is a bit stupid, but, when my brothers fought we would go hard but knew to never punch each other in the face. That's a line you don't cross even when defending yourself in these situations.

 

But that said this issue is one thing but really it's the horrendous guard play I can't take. The bulls strength is definitely their bigs but their entire offense seems to be their guards trying to do pull up 3s early in the shot clock.

[southsider2k5]

I'm not really sure what they're supposed to do here. Mirotic and Portis need to sit and hash it out or Mirotic probably shouldn't be at the facility. They aren't trading Portis and can't trade Mirotic until January 15th.

 

At some point team leadership needs to take over and make something happen. If Hoiberg can't handle it, the front office should figure out if the problem is Coach or a player. If the player is a problem and it can't be fixed, get rid of somebody. You can't have this stupid stuff in the news every single day.

[whitesoxfan99]

But that said this issue is one thing but really it's the horrendous guard play I can't take. The bulls strength is definitely their bigs but their entire offense seems to be their guards trying to do pull up 3s early in the shot clock.

 

I haven't watched a ton this year because with Lavine out the only interesting Bulls player is Markkanen but the guard play is just painful to watch every time I do tune in. None of Valentine, Dunn, Holiday, Grant or Zipser have any offensive ability.

[Dick Allen]

I haven't watched a ton this year because with Lavine out the only interesting Bulls player is Markkanen but the guard play is just painful to watch every time I do tune in. None of Valentine, Dunn, Holiday, Grant or Zipser have any offensive ability.

I used to really like Pax, but have concluded with Pax, Gar and Fred there, that franchise has zero chance to win a championship.

 

They are making a ton of money, and LaVine is decent, Markkanen looks good, a nice pick coming...It's time Michael Reinsdorf gave the keys to someone else to select their next draft pick, and maybe have that person convince another really good player to take their money, and pick a coach that can command a locker room.

 

This year is going to be awful and would have been no matter who was coaching or GMing or Presidenting or whatever. Maybe next year or at least the year after won't if they can pick the right people.

 

But Gar, Pax, and Fred on the same bus with John Fox.

 

 

 

[Kyyle23]

I used to really like Pax, but have concluded with Pax, Gar and Fred there, that franchise has zero chance to win a championship.

 

They are making a ton of money, and LaVine is decent, Markkanen looks good, a nice pick coming...It's time Michael Reinsdorf gave the keys to someone else to select their next draft pick, and maybe have that person convince another really good player to take their money, and pick a coach that can command a locker room.

This year is going to be awful and would have been no matter who was coaching or GMing or Presidenting or whatever. Maybe next year or at least the year after won't if they can pick the right people.

 

But Gar, Pax, and Fred on the same bus with John Fox.

 

I think everyone sees this but Michael Reinsdorf. Even Gar and Pax

[bmags]

I haven't watched a ton this year because with Lavine out the only interesting Bulls player is Markkanen but the guard play is just painful to watch every time I do tune in. None of Valentine, Dunn, Holiday, Grant or Zipser have any offensive ability.

 

Holiday could be really nice in a jamal crawford role but he ends up being our main ballhandler on way too many sets.