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QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 08:04 PM)
Rooting for a loss but 1 run vs 3 runs looks a lot better for Shields value

I'm really surprised a good guy like you, a very very smart guy like you is into the rooting for losses thing. Saddens me. You are a brilliant guy and I'm surprised you haven't assessed, like me, the fact the draft is a fricking crapshoot and anything can happen in the draft and tanking is a very very cliche-ish, bad idea. I think if you study the issue completely the logical conclusion on the tanking issue is the one I hold.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 08:06 PM)
I'm really surprised a good guy like you, a very very smart guy like you is into the rooting for losses thing. Saddens me. You are a brilliant guy and I'm surprised you haven't assessed, like me, the fact the draft is a fricking crapshoot and anything can happen in the draft and tanking is a very very cliche-ish, bad idea.

 

It's the smart thing to do. If the best GM in baseball history thinks tanking is smart, then I'm confident I'm not wrong

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QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 08:07 PM)
It's the smart thing to do. If the best GM in baseball history thinks tanking is smart, then I'm confident I'm not wrong

Yes sir, but the best manager in baseball thought batting the pitcher eighth was a good idea (LaRussa).

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QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 12:04 PM)
Rooting for a loss but 1 run vs 3 runs looks a lot better for Shields value

I don't suspect it's going to matter much...his numbers are better, but I don't know that he's going to fool any opposing GMs that badly.

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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 08:09 PM)
I don't suspect it's going to matter much...his numbers are better, but I don't know that he's going to fool any opposing GMs that badly.

I think people are dreaming when they envision these pitchers who have no value on the trade market having value. Shields, Pelphrey Holland, Miguel (even before he got hurt) have no value, folks. They are the kind of guys you DFA at some point when they pull a Humber.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 12:12 PM)
I think people are dreaming when they envision these pitchers who have no value on the trade market having value. Shields, Pelphrey Holland, Miguel (even before he got hurt) have no value, folks. They are the kind of guys you DFA at some point when they pull a Humber.

I thought there was a chance Holland might have some value, given his handedness, but those two bad starts in a row may have ended that chance.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 08:13 PM)
Good god, move Anderson closer to the plate. Puts weak swings on anything on the outer half

I can't believe people aren't in favor of him going down to the minors to learn more about the art of hitting. I'm surprised the statniks are accepting his OBP and not burying him. It's like it's just assumed TA is a star and whatever will be will be.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 12:13 PM)
Good god, move Anderson closer to the plate. Puts weak swings on anything on the outer half

Yeah, I thought given the location of that pitch, he should have given that thing a ride.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 02:06 PM)
I'm really surprised a good guy like you, a very very smart guy like you is into the rooting for losses thing. Saddens me. You are a brilliant guy and I'm surprised you haven't assessed, like me, the fact the draft is a fricking crapshoot and anything can happen in the draft and tanking is a very very cliche-ish, bad idea. I think if you study the issue completely the logical conclusion on the tanking issue is the one I hold.

:lolhitting

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 12:06 PM)
Saddens me.

Give it a rest dude... we all know your stance, no need to continually bring about your opposition to this school of thought... even if it is done in a delightfully tasteful complementary way. :headbang

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QUOTE (hi8is @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 07:22 PM)
Give it a rest dude... we all know your stance, no need to continually bring about your opposition to this school of thought... even if it is done in a delightfully tasteful complementary way. :headbang

I probably need professional help. Whenever I see the post desiring a loss I just want people to re-examine their thought process on the matter. It also angers me probably more than it should anger any human, considering all the more important issues in the world to get upset about.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 02:14 PM)
I can't believe people aren't in favor of him going down to the minors to learn more about the art of hitting. I'm surprised the statniks are accepting his OBP and not burying him. It's like it's just assumed TA is a star and whatever will be will be.

 

Something tells me this doesn't exist in the minors.

 

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 02:27 PM)
I probably need professional help. Whenever I see the post desiring a loss I just want people to re-examine their thought process on the matter. It also angers me probably more than it should anger any human, considering all the more important issues in the world to get upset about.

 

I can see your point. The only thing that hasn't changed much is the people running the farm system.

 

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