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Jordan4life
post Nov 21, 2009 -> 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (scenario @ Nov 21, 2009 -> 05:34 PM) *
Depends what you mean by 'legitimate prospects'.

If you mean 'do they have a shot at getting called up to the major leagues someday'... then I think the answer is yes.

If you mean 'do they have a shot at sticking around in the majors in some role'... maybe.

If you mean 'will they become star players'... probably not.


I guess the second one is what I'm asking. Just seems to me that although they've both had terrific years, neither has the skillset to make any impact in the majors. Doesn't matter, really. KW will deal them as soon as he gets the chance.
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post Nov 21, 2009 -> 05:46 PM
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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 21, 2009 -> 05:38 PM) *
I guess the second one is what I'm asking. Just seems to me that although they've both had terrific years, neither has the skillset to make any impact in the majors. Doesn't matter, really. KW will deal them as soon as he gets the chance.


Just following up on your earlier question...


Each of them has special attributes that should get them a shot if they continue to develop...

A. Both have nice simple swings (no hitches) and seem to hit the ball for both average and power.

B. Retherford can play multiple positions. That's a plus for him to get on and stick on a roster.

C. Morel is a plus defender at 3B.


The combination of their hitting and fielding attributes gives them a significant advantage over alot of other guys... for example, 1Bs and corner outfielders... who have to hit a ton to not be 'dime a dozen' types.

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post Nov 21, 2009 -> 05:59 PM
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Morel? Yes, I think he'll be a major league starter.

CJ? I don't see why he can't be a utility player. You can put him anywhere on the field, and he's not afraid to get a big hit. Do I think he'll ever be an everyday major league player? Probably not.
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post Nov 21, 2009 -> 06:30 PM
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QUOTE (scenario @ Nov 21, 2009 -> 05:34 PM) *
Depends what you mean by 'legitimate prospects'.

If you mean 'do they have a shot at getting called up to the major leagues someday'... then I think the answer is yes.

If you mean 'do they have a shot at sticking around for awhile in the majors in some role'... possibly.

If you mean 'will they become star players'... probably not.

Why could Morel not be a star player?

I thought I just read that we drafted him because he has a "high ceiling" and were ecstatic to get him where we did?

As for the strikeouts thingie you guys were talking about, strikeouts in the mlb are far more relevant than in the minor leagues.
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post Nov 21, 2009 -> 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 21, 2009 -> 06:30 PM) *
Why could Morel not be a star player?


I'm not knocking him. He could turn out to be a very good major league player some day.

I'm just suggesting that the odds of a guy who hasn't played above A-ball yet being an MLB star are low and that the law of averages is working against him... just to make it to the majors... much less becoming a star.

Regarding where we drafted him, etc. Actually he was considered a reach in the 4th round... somebody who wasn't high on alot of teams boards and probably could have been picked up later in the draft. But so far, he's making the people who picked him look pretty good.

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post Nov 22, 2009 -> 03:21 AM
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For those who missed the C.J. bomb.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/media/vide...tent_id=7137159
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RockRaines
post Nov 22, 2009 -> 11:38 AM
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Morel was drafted for his glove, but its his bat that has really come around. If you look at his swing now compared to before he was drafted its much different. Its more compact and his timing is much better.
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post Nov 22, 2009 -> 11:39 AM
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QUOTE (SoxAce @ Nov 22, 2009 -> 03:21 AM) *

OMG, thats so Juan Uribe. Not only is he a little thick like Juan, but that HR swing was pure Uribe.
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post Nov 22, 2009 -> 01:18 PM
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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 22, 2009 -> 06:38 PM) *
Morel was drafted for his glove, but its his bat that has really come around. If you look at his swing now compared to before he was drafted its much different. Its more compact and his timing is much better.


Did he do that on his own? Have we actually started to fix players before they fail?
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Quinarvy
post Nov 22, 2009 -> 05:54 PM
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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 22, 2009 -> 11:39 AM) *
OMG, thats so Juan Uribe. Not only is he a little thick like Juan, but that HR swing was pure Uribe.


Exactly what I was thinking...man I miss Uribe.

Maybe Retherford should go reverse-Sammy Sosa, change his name to CJ Uribe, and number to five. Then we have Juan back.
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post Nov 22, 2009 -> 10:12 PM
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post Nov 22, 2009 -> 11:59 PM
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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 22, 2009 -> 11:39 AM) *
OMG, thats so Juan Uribe. Not only is he a little thick like Juan, but that HR swing was pure Uribe.


I thought it looked a little like Craig Biggio too. Not that I think he is going to be as good as Biggio, just that the swing was pretty similar.
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