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I was hearing today that amid the giddyness of Republicans being able to overhaul the health care bill comes the sobering reality that plans are already underway to comply. The expense of complying, then changing to something new, could be a nasty little surprise to some folks.
Also What does it say about an industry that is against a law that would dump millions of new paying customers in their laps? |
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Jan 31, 2011 -> 03:26 PM
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A quote like that makes me sad to be in the same profession as the Judge because it shows a complete fundamental lack of understanding about the Boston Tea Party.
Its not that the tax itself that people were against,it was the "NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION." Unlike the current US govt, the colonials did not have representation in the British parliament. The entire Revolutionary War was over the fact that we did not have representation in parliament and therefore the tax was unfair because the British were taxing American colonists and the colonists had no real rights or representation in the British govt. Now lets apply those facts to the current situation. The Health Care bill was passed by the US congress, which is made up of (wait for it), Representatives. Thus when the Health Care Bill was passed, there was representation for the people and thus distinguishable from the Boston Tea Party (laws created with no representation.) Poor reasoning that shows a complete and fundamental misunderstanding of our history. A much more compelling (and why this law can not be overturned judicially) would be that the US has the right to create drug/consumption laws therefore the US has the right to create health laws. If the US does not have the right to force me to buy health insurance, citing that it is for the health and welfare of society, than it doesnt have the right to stop me from injecting heroin and topping it off with some cocaine. Either the US has the right to create laws for the health and welfare of society, or it doesnt. Im fine either way, but I have a feeling the people who are adamantly against the insurance law arent going to be favorable to legalizing every illegal substance either. This post has been edited by Soxbadger: Jan 31, 2011 -> 03:27 PM |
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Jan 31, 2011 -> 03:27 PM
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right size, wrong shape ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 32,202 Joined: June 8, 2005 From: The Emerald City Member No.: 2,420 |
A quote like that makes me sad to be in the same profession as the Judge because it shows a complete fundamental lack of understanding about the Boston Tea Party. Its not that the tax itself that people were against,it was the "NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION." Unlike the current US govt, the colonials did not have representation in the British parliament. The entire Revolutionary War was over the fact that we did not have representation in parliament and therefore the tax was unfair because the British were taxing American colonists and the colonists had no real rights or representation in the British govt. Now lets apply those facts to the current situation. The Health Care bill was passed by the US congress, which is made up of (wait for it), Representatives. Thus when the Health Care Bill was passed, there was representation for the people and thus distinguishable from the Boston Tea Party (laws created with no representation.) Poor reasoning that shows a complete and fundamental misunderstanding of our history. A much more compelling (and why this law can not be overturned judicially) would be that the US has the right to create drug/consumption laws therefore the US has the right to create health laws. If the US does not have the right to force me to buy health insurance, citing that it is for the health and welfare of society, than it doesnt have the right to stop me from injecting heroin and topping it off with some cocaine. Either the US has the right to create laws for the health and welfare of society, or it doesnt. Im fine either way, but I have a feeling the people who are adamantly against the insurance law arent going to be favorable to legalizing every illegal substance either. Post of the day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/notworthy.gif) |
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Tex OBAMACARE MEGATHREAD OBAMA OBAMA CARE CARE Nov 19, 2010 -> 09:29 AM
southsider2k5 QUOTE (Tex @ Nov 19, 2010 -> 09:2... Nov 19, 2010 -> 10:45 AM
Athomeboy_2000 Federal Judge In Va. Rules Part Of Health Care Law... Dec 13, 2010 -> 11:26 AM
NorthSideSox72 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 13, 2010 -... Dec 13, 2010 -> 12:04 PM
Balta1701 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 13, 2010 -... Dec 13, 2010 -> 12:09 PM
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Jenksismybitch QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 13, 2010 -> 12... Dec 13, 2010 -> 12:30 PM
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Balta1701 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 13, 2010 -... Dec 13, 2010 -> 12:51 PM
Jenksismybitch QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 13, 2010 -> 12... Dec 13, 2010 -> 01:49 PM
Balta1701 Generally conservative/libertarian judicial commen... Dec 13, 2010 -> 04:24 PM
StrangeSox QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 13, 2010 -> 04... Dec 13, 2010 -> 04:41 PM
Balta1701 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 13, 2010 -> 0... Dec 13, 2010 -> 04:46 PM
Jenksismybitch QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 13, 2010 -> 04... Dec 14, 2010 -> 08:37 AM
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Jenksismybitch QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2010 -> 08... Dec 14, 2010 -> 08:47 AM
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kapkomet I know, there's always something evil (EEEEEEE... Dec 13, 2010 -> 09:18 PM
Balta1701 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Dec 13, 2010 -> 10... Dec 14, 2010 -> 07:59 AM
Jenksismybitch oops, sorry, it was your link, not strangesox... Dec 14, 2010 -> 08:54 AM
Y2HH Thread has devolved into pointlessness. Dec 14, 2010 -> 01:22 PM
Balta1701 QUOTE I realize it can get tiresome to see folks l... Dec 15, 2010 -> 12:11 PM
Jenksismybitch QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 12... Dec 15, 2010 -> 12:42 PM
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Jenksismybitch QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 12... Dec 15, 2010 -> 01:31 PM

G&T QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 01... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:03 PM
Tex QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 15, 2010 -... Dec 15, 2010 -> 01:24 PM
Jenksismybitch QUOTE (Tex @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 01:2... Dec 15, 2010 -> 01:35 PM
Balta1701 The government infringes on your freedom to buy an... Dec 15, 2010 -> 01:36 PM
Jenksismybitch QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 01... Dec 15, 2010 -> 01:37 PM
Balta1701 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 15, 2010 -... Dec 15, 2010 -> 01:42 PM
Jenksismybitch QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 01... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:01 PM
Balta1701 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 15, 2010 -... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:06 PM
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StrangeSox QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 15, 2010 -... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:22 PM
Jenksismybitch QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 0... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:24 PM
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Balta1701 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 0... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:37 PM
G&T QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 0... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:42 PM
Balta1701 To elaborate...here is the direct quote from the j... Dec 15, 2010 -> 01:58 PM
Jenksismybitch QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 01... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:03 PM
Balta1701 Let me switch constitutional law professors here.
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Jenksismybitch QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 02... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:16 PM
Balta1701 For one more, here's a summary of an early 20t... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:18 PM
G&T QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 03... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:22 PM
Balta1701 Have you actually made an argument against that lo... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:27 PM
Jenksismybitch QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 02... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:35 PM
Balta1701 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 15, 2010 -... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:38 PM
Jenksismybitch QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 02... Dec 15, 2010 -> 03:02 PM
StrangeSox Sorry, I was referring to Jenks' posts, not th... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:46 PM
StrangeSox Would UHC be similarly Unconstitutional under this... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:51 PM
Balta1701 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 0... Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:55 PM
Rex Kicka** Thought this was interesting:
http://blogs.forbes... Jan 7, 2011 -> 12:55 PM
StrangeSox REPEAL NOW. Jan 7, 2011 -> 12:58 PM
Y2HH QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 12... Jan 8, 2011 -> 04:25 PM
Balta1701 I found this an interesting bit of research from F... Jan 21, 2011 -> 08:32 AM
BigSqwert QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 21, 2011 -> 08... Jan 21, 2011 -> 08:43 AM
Jenksismybitch QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 21, 2011 -> 08... Jan 21, 2011 -> 09:02 AM
Y2HH NM, re-read this a few times...
Meh.
Talk about ... Jan 21, 2011 -> 09:07 AM
Jenksismybitch Anyone know the story behind this waiver/exemption... Jan 27, 2011 -> 11:57 AM
NorthSideSox72 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 27, 2011 -... Jan 27, 2011 -> 12:00 PM
Balta1701 QUOTE A federal judge in Florida has struck down a... Jan 31, 2011 -> 02:15 PM
Soxbadger Not sure how that ruling would work, unless they a... Jan 31, 2011 -> 02:27 PM
Balta1701 Direct quote from the decision:
QUOTE It is diffic... Jan 31, 2011 -> 02:57 PM
StrangeSox QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 31, 2011 -> 03... Jan 31, 2011 -> 03:53 PM
NorthSideSox72 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 31, 2011 -> 02... Jan 31, 2011 -> 03:38 PM
Soxbadger QUOTE There is nothing bogus about it - it is a fu... Jan 31, 2011 -> 04:05 PM
NorthSideSox72 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 31, 2011 -> 04... Jan 31, 2011 -> 04:12 PM
Balta1701 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 31, 2011 -... Jan 31, 2011 -> 05:31 PM
southsider2k5 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 31, 2011 -> 05... Jan 31, 2011 -> 08:01 PM
NorthSideSox72 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 31, 2011 -... Jan 31, 2011 -> 08:22 PM
Balta1701 Btw, just so you don't think I'm going to ... Jan 31, 2011 -> 04:07 PM
Soxbadger QUOTE How can they possibly make this related to a... Jan 31, 2011 -> 04:20 PM
mr_genius The health insurance mandate has to be a tax if a... Jan 31, 2011 -> 08:27 PM
NorthSideSox72 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jan 31, 2011 -> 08... Jan 31, 2011 -> 08:29 PM
Balta1701 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 31, 2011 -... Feb 1, 2011 -> 07:37 AM
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StrangeSox Just give us single-payer and be done with all thi... Jan 31, 2011 -> 08:31 PM![]() ![]() |
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