Athomeboy_2000
Sep 25, 2008 -> 10:14 PM
I tell yea, Carlos Gomez has a world of talent, but watching him this weekend, i get the distinct impression his abilities have gone to his head and in a few years he's going to be a real SOB to deal with. He just give me that vibe. He is going to be VERY full of himself in a very short period of time.
I look at how he scream and yells at every opertunity. He's got a very "smug" look. And did you see him slide into home for no reason what so ever?
fathom
Sep 25, 2008 -> 10:20 PM
I give him and Span credit for playing with just a ton of energy.
Athomeboy_2000
Sep 25, 2008 -> 10:21 PM
QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 11:20 PM)

I give him and Span credit for playing with just a ton of energy.
oh no doubt there. He's a hell of a player. I just get a vibe form him. And my "vibes" tend to be right.
Gregory Pratt
Sep 25, 2008 -> 10:24 PM
From BP:
"This guy is a great pitcher, but his mind is not good."
--Twins center fielder Carlos Gomez, on Tigers starter Justin Verlander.
"Me and you are going to work this guy and mess up the mind."
--Gomez, referring to teammate Alexi Casilla, who bats behind Gomez.
This one is from BP but modified as I read a more sensible version somewhere else:
"Why you look at me like that? You don't intimidate me. I'm not a player you look at and puts my head down and looks away. Hell no, I look at you right back!"
--Gomez, to Verlander after he stared into the dugout.
Markbilliards
Sep 25, 2008 -> 10:52 PM
QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 11:14 PM)

I tell yea, Carlos Gomez has a world of talent, but watching him this weekend, i get the distinct impression his abilities have gone to his head and in a few years he's going to be a real SOB to deal with. He just give me that vibe. He is going to be VERY full of himself in a very short period of time.
I look at how he scream and yells at every opertunity. He's got a very "smug" look. And did you see him slide into home for no reason what so ever?
If a White Sox rookie did this do you think you'd say the same? I viewed it as more excitement over the fact that he just led his team to sweeping their biggest contender for the Central division lead.
Jimbo's Drinker
Sep 25, 2008 -> 11:51 PM
He may be good, but the whole talking and licking of the bat is quite weird.
Nokona
Sep 25, 2008 -> 11:57 PM
The diving for no reason was rather obnoxious
whitesoxfan99
Sep 25, 2008 -> 11:57 PM
QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 12:51 AM)

He may be good, but the whole talking and licking of the bat is quite weird.
Gomez is not good
Jimbo's Drinker
Sep 26, 2008 -> 12:34 AM
QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 11:57 PM)

Gomez is not good
He was the last 3 days
SoxFan101
Sep 26, 2008 -> 01:40 AM
His overall numbers are not good at all really, but this whole season he has seemingly been a giant thorn in our sides. All I know, 4 guys I'd love to watch everyday would be Span, Gomez, Mauer, and Morneau.....the only guys I can say that about on the whitesox have been Quentin and Cuban Missile. I do know Delmon Young would probably frustrate the hell out of me.
kjshoe04
Sep 26, 2008 -> 03:38 AM
Gomez has a ton of talent. At this point i'd take Span though. I really think he's a quality ball player.
Swingandalongonetoleft
Sep 26, 2008 -> 04:03 AM
QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 10:24 PM)

From BP:
"This guy is a great pitcher, but his mind is not good."
--Twins center fielder Carlos Gomez, on Tigers starter Justin Verlander.
"Me and you are going to work this guy and mess up the mind."
--Gomez, referring to teammate Alexi Casilla, who bats behind Gomez.
This one is from BP but modified as I read a more sensible version somewhere else:
"Why you look at me like that? You don't intimidate me. I'm not a player you look at and puts my head down and looks away. Hell no, I look at you right back!"
--Gomez, to Verlander after he stared into the dugout.
"<Slobber Slurp>"
--Harrelson on Chris Gomez.
santo=dorf
Sep 26, 2008 -> 05:52 AM
QUOTE (Nokona @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 12:57 AM)

The diving for no reason was rather obnoxious
Somebody has to fill Hunter's shoes.
whitesoxbrian
Sep 26, 2008 -> 06:50 AM
Except 4 guys (Danks, Floyd, Quentin, Ramirez), I'd trade anyone on the Sox for him.
Steve9347
Sep 26, 2008 -> 07:15 AM
The funny thing is, he's not that good. The White Sox just have no defense against speed. This guy can't draw a walk and swings at everything, yet we throw fastballs down the pipe to him consistently.
kyyle23
Sep 26, 2008 -> 07:18 AM
I just hope his leg falls off. Thats all. Full sprint, then his leg just falls off on the way to the ball
southsideirish71
Sep 26, 2008 -> 07:47 AM
The moron sniffs and then kisses his bat before he gets into the batters box. Maybe he and his bat are more than just friends.
Athomeboy_2000
Sep 26, 2008 -> 08:55 AM
QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 11:51 PM)

He may be good, but the whole talking and licking of the bat is quite weird.
"Ahh, Jesus, I like him very much, but He no help with curveball." - Serrano (major league)
Leonard Zelig
Sep 26, 2008 -> 08:56 AM
QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 07:47 AM)

The moron sniffs and then kisses his bat before he gets into the batters box. Maybe he and his bat are more than just friends.
That makes him a moron? He should probably just punch his bat instead.
almagest
Sep 26, 2008 -> 09:09 AM
QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 07:15 AM)

The funny thing is, he's not that good. The White Sox just have no defense against speed. This guy can't draw a walk and swings at everything, yet we throw fastballs down the pipe to him consistently.
Gomez this year: .262/.301/.367, which is a delicious OPS of .668. BB/K ratio of 25/139. He's pretty much Juan Uribe of last year, with a slightly higher average, and less power. He's also 32/43 in stolen bases, which is a 74% success rate. Not bad, but at that rate he's pretty much breaking even with helping/hurting his team's chances to score. All in all, there's a reason he's batting 9th now, and not leading off.
Of course, that doesn't help when we throw high straight fastballs and hanging curves to him consistently.
knightni
Sep 26, 2008 -> 09:58 AM
QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 06:03 AM)

"<Slobber Slurp>"
--Harrelson on Chris Gomez.
Chris Gomez?
DBAHO
Sep 26, 2008 -> 10:02 AM
QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 07:50 AM)

Except 4 guys (Danks, Floyd, Quentin, Ramirez), I'd trade anyone on the Sox for him.
I'd add Buehrle and Jenks to that mix also.
Steve9347
Sep 26, 2008 -> 10:02 AM
QUOTE (almagest @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 10:09 AM)

Gomez this year: .262/.301/.367, which is a delicious OPS of .668. BB/K ratio of 25/139. He's pretty much Juan Uribe of last year, with a slightly higher average, and less power. He's also 32/43 in stolen bases, which is a 74% success rate. Not bad, but at that rate he's pretty much breaking even with helping/hurting his team's chances to score. All in all, there's a reason he's batting 9th now, and not leading off.
Of course, that doesn't help when we throw high straight fastballs and hanging curves to him consistently.
That's what I'm saying. If you take out the Sox series against him, especially in Minnesota, the guy's probably a .230 hitter!
Cali
Sep 26, 2008 -> 10:24 AM
Most Twins that hit .250-.260 seem to hit about .345 against the Sox. It's been happening for years....
lostfan
Sep 26, 2008 -> 10:34 AM
QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 12:02 PM)

That's what I'm saying. If you take out the Sox series against him, especially in Minnesota, the guy's probably a .230 hitter!
In 18 games and 77 PAs vs. the Sox this year he is hitting .384. Yeah... probably something to that. He is a piece of s***baseball player against almost everyone EXCEPT the Sox.
Someone please hit this guy in the knee with a crowbar or something.
lostfan
Sep 26, 2008 -> 10:37 AM
Serious question: Is it wrong of me to openly wish for him to tear his ACL? Because I kind of feel like an asshole, but I'm just being honest here.
shipps
Sep 26, 2008 -> 11:10 AM
QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 10:37 AM)

Serious question: Is it wrong of me to openly wish for him to tear his ACL? Because I kind of feel like an asshole, but I'm just being honest here.
Yeah thats always bad Karma.
lostfan
Sep 26, 2008 -> 11:15 AM
QUOTE (shipps @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 12:10 PM)

Yeah thats always bad Karma.
f*** it, we already lost the MVP for the rest of the pennant race. Bad karma has already cashed in.
Chisoxfn
Sep 26, 2008 -> 11:56 AM
QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 09:20 PM)

I give him and Span credit for playing with just a ton of energy.
I wish the Sox had a couple guys like Gomez and Span. Gomez is going to be really good in time and Span is playing out of his mind.
chw42
Sep 26, 2008 -> 12:18 PM
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 11:56 AM)

I wish the Sox had a couple guys like Gomez and Span. Gomez is going to be really good in time and Span is playing out of his mind.
Gomez is like Esteban German with more talent. He sucks against everybody but us.
He's so f***ing full of himself it's funny. He's a speed guy without an OBP. He might never learn how to walk.
Princess Dye
Sep 26, 2008 -> 12:21 PM
Gomez has the nerdiest reactions and struts i've ever seen from a pro athlete.
almagest
Sep 26, 2008 -> 12:28 PM
QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 10:34 AM)

In 18 games and 77 PAs vs. the Sox this year he is hitting .384. Yeah... probably something to that. He is a piece of s***baseball player against almost everyone EXCEPT the Sox.
Someone please hit this guy in the knee with a crowbar or something.
It's because we apparently don't pay attention to the fact that he'll swing at almost ANYTHING. We throw him pitches over the fat part of the plate, and Hawk slobbers over him when he hits them hard, as pretty much anyone will at this level. Then he takes an extra base on Dye or Griffey plodding over to get the ball, and all of a sudden he's a doubles/triples machine. I also don't understand why Wise was shading him to hit to the right side when apparently the strategy was to get him out on curveballs. At this point Gomez is swinging hard in case he hits it, so anything offspeed is probably going to be pulled.
Kalapse
Sep 26, 2008 -> 12:34 PM
.384/.408/.616/1.024 in 73 AB vs the Sox
.244/.285/.330/.615 in 491 AB vs everyone else
So yeah, when he's not playing the Sox he kinda sucks at baseball.
chw42
Sep 26, 2008 -> 12:37 PM
QUOTE (Kalapse @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 12:34 PM)

.384/.408/.616/1.024 in 73 AB vs the Sox
.244/.285/.330/.615 in 491 AB vs everyone else
So yeah, when he's not playing the Sox he kinda sucks at baseball.
Add in like 30 bunt hits...
He's not a professional hitter. He's just using his speed at this point. He's also getting some fat fastballs 24% of the time too.
Dick Allen
Sep 26, 2008 -> 01:52 PM
If Carlos Gomez was a White Sox , he would be very popular on this board.
southsider2k5
Sep 26, 2008 -> 01:59 PM
I'd take him over most of our OF right now. CQ and JD would be the only guys I would rather have.
lostfan
Sep 26, 2008 -> 02:06 PM
QUOTE (Kalapse @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 01:34 PM)

.384/.408/.616/1.024 in 73 AB vs the Sox
.244/.285/.330/.615 in 491 AB vs everyone else
So yeah, when he's not playing the Sox he kinda sucks at baseball.
I thought it was .229 actually but then I realized that I was dividing by his PAs instead of his ABs. It still sucks though. I don't get why people think he's going to be good, because he was pretty average in the minors too.
MO2005
Sep 26, 2008 -> 02:22 PM
Gomez is a cocky Son of a b****!!! His stupid facial expressions tick me off and when he screams he looks mentally challenged!! No Offense to anyone...All I am going to say is come to our house and I will guarantee he'll get beer spilled on his a**!!!
Melissa1334
Sep 26, 2008 -> 03:06 PM
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 01:59 PM)

I'd take him over most of our OF right now. CQ and JD would be the only guys I would rather have.
Lol id trade dye for him in a second (even though i hate gomez)! -was denard span even a top prospect?
QUOTE (MO2005 @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 02:22 PM)

Gomez is a cocky Son of a b****!!! His stupid facial expressions tick me off and when he screams he looks mentally challenged!! No Offense to anyone...All I am going to say is come to our house and I will guarantee he'll get beer spilled on his a**!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
kjshoe04
Sep 26, 2008 -> 03:16 PM
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 01:52 PM)

If Carlos Gomez was a White Sox , he would be very popular on this board.
Yes he would.
whitesoxfan99
Sep 26, 2008 -> 03:46 PM
QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 04:06 PM)

Lol id trade dye for him in a second (even though i hate gomez)! -was denard span even a top prospect?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dye>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gomez
MHizzle85
Sep 26, 2008 -> 03:53 PM
Carlos Gomez can go kick rocks, 'nuff said.
santo=dorf
Sep 26, 2008 -> 03:55 PM
QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 07:50 AM)

Except 4 guys (Danks, Floyd, Quentin, Ramirez), I'd trade anyone on the Sox for him.
Why? We're the only team he hits against.
overall: .262/.301/.367, 25 BB, 139 K's, 38 XBH
against the Sox: .384/.408/.616 3 BB, 15 K's, 10 XBH
santo=dorf
Sep 26, 2008 -> 03:57 PM
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 02:52 PM)

If Carlos Gomez was a White Sox , he would be very popular on this board.
Not at Soxtalk, but perhaps at WSI. I saw somebody penciling in Podsednik for next year's team.
Dick Allen
Sep 26, 2008 -> 04:29 PM
QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 03:57 PM)

Not at Soxtalk, but perhaps at WSI. I saw somebody penciling in Podsednik for next year's team.
Look how popular Owens, Fields, and Wassermann were on this board last year playing meaningless games and none with the potential of Gomez. He would be very popular. He has a lot of flaws, but he has a lot of ability and is very young. I don't think he's Rickey Henderson II like Hawk does, but he has a chance to be outstanding.
kjshoe04
Sep 26, 2008 -> 04:38 PM
If he was on the sox hed probably be my favorite player, except the fact that hes a dick.
whitesoxfan99
Sep 26, 2008 -> 05:01 PM
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 05:29 PM)

Look how popular Owens, Fields, and Wassermann were on this board last year playing meaningless games and none with the potential of Gomez. He would be very popular. He has a lot of flaws, but he has a lot of ability and is very young. I don't think he's Rickey Henderson II like Hawk does, but he has a chance to be outstanding.
Sure, but he also isn't patient at the plate, strikes out a lot for a guy without power, and hasn't shown an ability to drive the ball. He also hasn't shown the ability to consistently put the ball in play and for a guy who apparently will rely entirely on athleticism that is important. He has a lot of potential but he has a lot to improve on before he even becomes a respectable major league hitter.
Dick Allen
Sep 26, 2008 -> 05:12 PM
QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 05:01 PM)

Sure, but he also isn't patient at the plate, strikes out a lot for a guy without power, and hasn't shown an ability to drive the ball. He also hasn't shown the ability to consistently put the ball in play and for a guy who apparently will rely entirely on athleticism that is important. He has a lot of potential but he has a lot to improve on before he even becomes a respectable major league hitter.
He's 22 years old with a ton of ability. Chances are he will get better. Just with his speed, he'll always be a threat.
whitesoxbrian
Sep 26, 2008 -> 07:15 PM
QUOTE (DBAHO @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 11:02 AM)

I'd add Buehrle and Jenks to that mix also.
I'd trade Jenks for Gomez straight up, any day.
fathom
Sep 26, 2008 -> 07:21 PM
QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Sep 27, 2008 -> 01:15 AM)

I'd trade Jenks for Gomez straight up, any day.
Really?
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