Has Ryan Shealy totally fallen out of favor?

Ryan Shealy was always over-rated. The guy was never that good of a prospect. Not that Jacobs is a better option.

Only played about a month in the big leagues last year but hit 7 home runs and had a >.900 OPS for that time.

Shealy actually did much better this time around with the Royals. The first go-around was a disaster....and he made things worse by hitting for very little power, which is a cardinal sin at 1B.

I think they just want to improve their depth and don't want to end up having to give a Ross Gload type of player 350-400 at-bats.

Just looking at the homers and RBI numbers, it is a steal for KC, simply because Nunez is garbage. However, Jacobs will start making more money VERY soon, so this is the typical Marlins "cost saving" mode...and, as mentioned, the .299 OBP is atrocious.

Still we would have taken those home run and RBI numbers out of Konerko this year in a heartbeat.

Well i do believe the Marlins will be better next year (and they werent particularly bad this year) but they had to trade Jacobs. Gaby Hernandez is going to be given a chance to win a spot but if he doesnt they may just move Cantu to 1B and plug in Dallas McPherson at 3B. I'm surprised they didnt get a little more for him however.

I'd still like us to go after Olsen and Tankersley

Shows how desperate Dayton Moore is to get a power hitter into that lineup.

My guess is they still try to deal Jose Guillen as well, maybe to the Mets.

Overall I think it's a decent trade for the Royals, but I wonder what they do with Shealy and Ka'aihue now.

This trade makes very little sense to me for either side. For the royals, they already have no room for another 1b, unless they plan on getting really creative. Already they have Butler, Shealy, Gload, Ka'aihue, and Hosmer on the fast track. Jacobs has somewhat questionable defense and horrible plate discipline for a team whose manage demands a patient approach at the plate. For the Marlins, they get a young pitch with excellent stuff, but a shaky track record, and wavering control. He’s a good pickup, but not for a one for one deal. No one got fleeced here, but there will be no seismic improvement for either team.

how exactly is he garbage? 25 yrs old and an era under 3? he should be ok in the nl lol

I don't know about anyone else, but I am glad to see Nunez gone. He seemed to eat our lunch everytime we saw him.

lol it did seem like it but he only pitched 3 innings against us this year

Nunez has a very live arm and I'm not sad to see him leave whatsoever. I don't like seeing Jacobs come into the Central though at all, and this could be an absolutely fantastic pickup by the Royals. That team has quite a bit of depth to go around, even if most of it is on the corners of the infield.

yea, 30+ hrs and 90+ rbi , thats not that bad at all esp playing in that ballpark. i remember him bcuz he did good against the cubs lol

In another year or two this could be the roster the Royals are fielding. In other words, they can be really good.
C Pena
1b Shealy/Kila
2bAviles
3b Gordon
Ss Moustakas
RF Teahen
Cf Dejesus
Lf Hosmer
DH Butler/Jacobs

Meche
Greinke
Hochever
Melville
Bannister

This probably means that Butler or Shealy is gone.

IF they really wanted to they could do a strict righty/lefty platoon in both the DH and 1B sports, or stick one in them LF (assuming the Guillen sitiuation works itself out). I don't think they'll do it though, and i imagine Butler will be the one they offer up for trade.

Why wouldn't you have Greinke in their rotation? He's much more likely to be the ace than Meche?

Teahen will never stay a corner OF coming off the last two lackluster seasons of production (look at his abysmal OPS numbers, and he's definitely not a burner, merely adequate speed in the outfield).

Aviles has to repeat his success next year...that's far from a sure thing. Moustakas is not a "sure thing" to stay at SS.

Butler simply needs to show more power...he's like most of our sluggers on the basepaths, maybe slower.

They need to take two of DeJesus/Teahen/Guillen and some of their additional spare parts and get a legitimate everyday CF. DeJesus is a "nice" player, but not a franchise one. They've already cut loose the likes of Dye, Beltran and Damon...DeJesus isn't better than any of those guys, and he's not an $8 million dollar player in the KC market, not in this economy.

Are you talking about converting Tony Pena, Jr., from SS to C or is there another Pena I was unaware of?

this trade and a couple of other trades will make the Marlins champions next year, it's their turn to win the World Series again.

Crap, you're right. And i fricking love Greinke too. Put him in as the number 2 starter. I never said anything about this being a sure thing. This was purely hypothetical. And Tony Pena Jr should never touch a major league lineup. I am referring to Brayan Pena a Cuban catcher they acquired from the Braves.

sounds about right, every 6 years via the wild card no less

I would love me some Billy Butler. He is really solid. Always puts the ball in plays.

I'd take him too but the Royals would undoubtedly like to keep him out of the AL Central.

I know you're saying that and it's just a pipe dream, I just like being that guy.

It's okay, you'll be the Billy Butler guy. I'll be the Tim Lincecum guy. Let's live this dream together.

Unfortunately you're right.

No, I'm being THAT guy that ruins people's pipedreams.

So, my responsibility requires that I let you know that Tim Lincecum is probably one of the top 5 most untouchable players in the game right now.

Yeah, i know.
What are you thinking the list is? I'd say probably around
It's probably:
1 Hamels
2 Lincecum
3 Joba
4 Webb
5 King Felix
With Billingsley, Big Z, Beckett, and Harden close behind.

That's merely pitchers.

1. Pujols
2. Lincecum
3. Mauer
4. Halladay
5. Sizemore/Granderson

just a quick look at it, though Hanley Ramirez should probably be on there somewhere too.

Speak for yourself.

Jacobs' line was very Tony Bautista, 2004 Jose Valentin-like.

name, age, OPS, OPS+ of mentioned season

Mike Jacobs: 27, .812, 107
Jose Valentin: 34, .760, 92
Tony Batista (speaking of spelling player's names wrong): 25, .848, 111 (best full season, OPS+ wise of his career)

You tell me which player you are most afraid of. I see one player on the downhill of his career, another who never walked and was a slightly above average player with impressive home run numbers during the steroid era, and another who hasn't entered the generally accepted prime stages of a players career.

...and you're comparing the offensive production of a first baseman to a shortstop and third baseman. Of course Valentin was probably roided up so who knows.

Valentin 2004: .237/.287/.473 30 HR 70 RBI's
Jacobs 2008: .247/.299/.514 32 HR 93 RBI's (helps to bat 4th)
Batista 2002: .244/.309/.457 31 HR 87 RBI's (mostly batted 4th as well)

Based on that I think that validates my point that "Jacobs' line was very Tony Bautista, 2004 Jose Valentin like."

I wasn't saying anything about his age or having him as our first baseman of the future.

I think Jose Reyes belongs in this discussion somewhere....and continue to believe, like Ozzie, that Sizemore is the best player in the game today.

I think Granderson would be about 2-3 times LESS expensive to acquire. Jimmy Rollins is a very important part of the Phillies...nobody mentioned Ryan Howard, either.

Morneau would be very hard to pry away from MIN because he's not hugely expensive and they don't have much LH power.

Justin Verlander is probably very overvalued by the Tigers...same with Zumaya, who might have been on this list coming into 2008.

Cliff Lee would be nearly impossible to pry away from the Indians.

If we're talking untouchable trade players...Howard no longer made the list after his arbitration session last year. He's approaching FA, won a $10 million arbitration deal last year, and has already gone through the "Both sides hate this process and it poisons the well for the future" arbitration process.

This has to be a lead-in to another deal or two.

For who, the Marlins? Scott Olsen and Taylor Tankersley are probably going to be traded, same with one or two of Uggla/Hermida/Willingham. I'm not sure what implications this might have with KC.

The Royals now have 3 1Bman. Kila Ka'aihue, Ryan Shealy, and now Jacobs. They also have Butler, who is probably going to DH for them. This likely means a move is on the way.

Actually, 4 1B - don't they also still have Ross Gload?

yeah, but I don't really consider him as an option to start anymore. And I know you're a super Gload fanboy, so I almost regret saying that.

Can you blame him? I mean, Ross Gload is the white Dewayne Wise!