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18th in the AL for OPS. Not even the MVP for the Sawks.

CQ 5th with zero 1st Place votes, Dye 15th.

And the anger and hate will beginnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn now.

good, im glad it wasnt morneau, he had a great year but he wasnt the mvp. quentin would have won for sure too bad

What a joke

Pedroia
Morneau
Youkilis
Mauer
Quentin

5th place missing the last month isn't bad.

Let me add that whoever voted for K-Rod should have his voted privelages revoked

TCQ was 5th with no first place votes, one second place, four thirds, and eight fourths.

JD finished 15th place while getting a single 4th place vote to go with some eighths and tenths.

IF there ever was a definition of the phrase "tallest midget", here it is. No one in the AL wanted or deserved this award.

I hope that Quentin learned his lesson.

Pedroia winning is a total joke.

pedroia is a hell of a ballplayer.....one of the worst years i can remember for MVP candidates in a long time though...I thought he wasn't even the best player on his team though....at least pedroia is a great fielder, which should count for something even though it doesn't

Pedroia Avg - .326
Kinsler Avg - .319

Pedroia HR - 17
Kinsler HR - 18

Pedroia RBI - 83
Kinsler RBI - 71

Pedroia SB - 20
Kinsler SB - 26

Pedroia OPS - .869
Kinsler OPS - .892

Pedroia - 317 MVP Points
Kinsler - 1 10th Place Vote

The biggest difference may have been games played, 157 for Pedroia and 121 for Kinsler

Was Pedroia even the Best Second Baseman in the AL?

No.

But you forgot the +40 he gets for playing for the Sawx

Prove to me that Kinsler maintains that pace over his next 35 games.

Also, based on pure runs created, Pedroia was tied for the 3rd best offensive player in the AL (I don't like the statistic, but it atleast gives some counting statistics that means something). You are using sample size, and if sample size is taken out and all numbers are extrapolated out to a full regular season, Quentin would have almost undoubtedly run away with the award and the Sox almost certainly wouldn't have played 163 games.

To answer your question, yes, Pedroia was the best 2Bman in the AL.

Seconded

If the award was called Best Second Basemen he may not have won, but prolly still would have. Also unlike what happened in the NL this award goes to the most valuable player. Pujols did help his team and without him they would have been horrible but the award shouldnt just go to the best player in the league. Pedroia really went on a tear during the dog days of summer and really helped the red sox keep pace with the rays and the twins in the wild card. He deserves this compared to the rest of the field. Also im happy a guy whose only 5'9" won an MVP which is pretty cool.

I think I'm going to vomit.

I look at an MVP as, "who scares the other team the most?" When Pujols came to the plate, teams were f***ed. Same with Morneau. Sure, the Twins didn't win the division, but they came as close as you can behind two bats and a bunch of over-worked arms. When Morneau came up, you knew you were in trouble. Teams game-planned around him.

Pedroia was the 3rd to 7th scariest bat on his team. He's probably the worst MVP I've seen in my lifetime. I'd rather it have gone to Youkilis than Pedroia.

Just to clarify, I didn't take a "sample size." Those were Kinsler's season total numbers. I did not extrapolate anything. I don't think Kinsler should have won the MVP, I just think that Pedroia winning it is a joke.

It is sample size argument though, because Kinsler played in 36 fewer games. He was also terrible in the second half of the season before going down with an injury. Also, offensively, though Kinsler was probably better in the time he was on the field, he was also a worse defender than Pedroia was. Overall, Pedroia was about the 3rd most valuable player in the AL this year, and the two who were more valuable were Sizemore and ARod, so it makes atleast a little bit of sense as to why they'd give it to Pedroia.

Unless of course it was September.

You said exactly what I was thinking, thank you. No one is that scared of Pedroia, and I know how he played against us. I'd still rather have him up there than Manny, Ortiz, Youkilis, I think even J.D. Drew scares me more. Screw Pedroia.

Without Morneau, god knows where the Twins would have ended up. Probably behind the Tigers. He's the AL MVP in my mind.

How s***ty your team is should have no affect on the award.

If Pujols was on the Pirates, he should have still won the MVP.

Mauer handled the young pitching staff, won a gold glove and a silver slugger. He's more valuable.

Where would the Sox have finished without Quentin? Behind the Tigers?

Pedroia was also third in the AL in VORP behind A-Rod and Sizemore. Kinsler was no slouch himself, ending the season eighth. Meanwhile, Justin Morneau was 12th, finishing behind teammate (and more valuable player) Joe Mauer and Carlos Quentin, who missed the last month of the season.

Morneau is a joke of an MVP candidate and its an embarrassment that he was 2nd in voting, almost as much as him winning in 2006 was.

You know I hate Pedroia as well but like someone previously stated it was the race of the tallest midget. But I still don't want him at the plate in a big situation because he's been known to come through. He may not scare you but I dont think he needs to in order to be an MVP. He just has to get the damn job done.

They probably would have been better in September with Brad Eldred as their 1Bman. Morneau is one of the reasons the Twins pissed the division down their leg.

First, Mauer does not play GG defense. His ability to block balls in the dirt is poor. I don't need to point out how much of a joke the GG is. Morneau carried that offense. To be able to put up .300-23-129 on a bad offensive team is ridiculous, and shows you exactly just how great Morneau was last season. Also, one of the 5 criteria on the MVP ballot is number of games played, and Morneau appeared in all 163 games. None of the other candidates did that. He's a rock. The AL vote was very crowded, though. You could point out reasons why any of these players should have won.

And yes, the Sox would have finished below the Tigers without Quentin, but you don't win the MVP missing a month. I would have definitely put Quentin ahead of Morneau had he played a full season.

Yes, that's why Justin Morneau led the American League with 558 at-bats with runners on (Ibanez was second in the AL with 484). I mean, seriously. He was hitting behind Joe Mauer and his .413 OBP for the entirety of the season. Imagine what Q's numbers would have been if he had someone with a .400 OBP in front of him.

Also ignore the fact that Morneau killed the Twins for the last month of the season, when they needed him the most.

Morneau had so many RBI's because he had a ton of opportunities. I believe he was in the top of the league in leaving RISP as well.

He had so many RBI's because he was a man child during those opportunities...

RISP
Morneau: .348/.443/.602
Pedroia: .307/.365/.466

RISP w/2 outs
Morneau: .329/.461/.573
Pedroia: .231/.355/.359

Runners On
Morneau: .330/.418/.574
Pedroia: .310/.367/.453

Funny how Thome is called "unclutch" around here yet his OPS with RISP was higher than Morneau's.

For all the love that Morneau (somewhat unjustifiably) gets, Dye isn't even really in the conversation for some reason even though his offensive season was probably better for just about the whole year. Both of them disappeared in September though.

Hey Felix,
How do you explain these numbers? The most overrated player in baseball. Period. hits like this with runners on?