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bmags
QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Mar 30, 2010 -> 03:28 PM) *
C'mon, Balta.

Sandra Bullock was a trivial lead-in to a piece about how the quality of one's marriage is a greater factor in happiness than professional success. At no point does he imply people (much less women, or Bullock specifically) should stay home and make babies rather than work.


C'mon...of COURSE he chose a woman as his example. See, women? You see what comes as a result of you chasing after personal growth and success? You're men will cheat on you because you aren't there.
Athomeboy_2000
Nice little dig by Obama:
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When you actually look at the bill itself, it incorporates all sorts of Republican ideas. I mean a lot of commentators have said this is sort of similar to the bill that Mitt Romney, the Republican Governor and now presidential candidate, passed in Massachusetts.
Romney has been scrambling to distance himself from Obama's plan and not get stuck on the wrong side of a litmus test issue for conservatives, so Obama's helpful reminder that the two plans are similar is like throwing a drowning man an anchor.
southsider2k5
QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 30, 2010 -> 11:33 AM) *


Kinda like Obama distanced himself from himself on forcing people to buy health insurance?
southsider2k5
QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 30, 2010 -> 12:47 PM) *
Can we get a thread on the student loans topic? I too am curious as to how this all works. What has changed in the loan process? Will my loans be effected?


It sounds like if your loans are >10% of i then they can be adjusted downwards.
bmags
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 30, 2010 -> 05:55 PM) *
Kinda like Obama distanced himself from himself on forcing people to buy health insurance?


if obama runs against his signature legislation in 2012 then you'll have a point.
southsider2k5
QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 30, 2010 -> 01:06 PM) *
if obama runs against his signature legislation in 2012 then you'll have a point.


He just did it.
bmags
right.
BigSqwert
All I can say is wtf

Athomeboy_2000
You Didn Get Mad When!...
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You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.

You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate
energy policy.

You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.

You didn't get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.

You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.

You didn't get mad when we spent over 600 billion(and counting) on said illegal war.

You didn't get mad when over 10 billion dollars just disappeared in Iraq.

You didn't get mad when you found out we were torturing people.

You didn't get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.

You didn't get mad when we didn't catch Bin Laden.

You didn't get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.

You didn't get mad when we let a major US city, New Orleans, drown.

You didn't get mad when we gave a 900 billion tax break to the rich.

You didn't get mad when the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark.

You finally got mad when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all okay with you, but helping other Americans...oh hell no.
BigSqwert
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 30, 2010 -> 08:45 AM) *
NY Times conservative columnist David Brooks spent a whole column today telling us why Sandra Bullock should have been staying at home popping out babies to keep her marriage solid rather than winning an Academy Award.


I enjoyed Digby's entry on this topic.
kapkomet
QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Mar 30, 2010 -> 10:30 AM) *

Those are great. lolhitting.gif
FlaSoxxJim
QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 30, 2010 -> 03:42 PM) *


^ ^ Pretty much.
BigSqwert
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Waterboard the Christian militia loons!

Not really. I don't believe in torture. Still, I wonder how people who do believe in waterboarding terrorism suspects to make 'em tell what they know would feel about applying that technique to the nine members of the fanatical Christian militia arrested in Michigan on terrorism charges. Here's a promotional video the Christian militia produced. Looks a lot like Islamic terrorist recruitment videos:



This bunch doesn't look like it could fly airplanes into towers. They look like they could drive a K car through the door of a Kwikee Mart. Still, glad they're in jail tonight.


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bmags
no, they'll just say it's a government takeover of the oil industry.
bmags
WHAT THE?!?! what was I responding to?
GoSox05
QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 12:12 PM) *
WHAT THE?!?! what was I responding to?


I think you read something in the environment thread and than responded to it here. That or you lost your mind.
Athomeboy_2000
QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 12:29 PM) *
I think you read something in the environment thread and than responded to it here. That or you lost your mind.

I think the latter wink.gif
bmags
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Balta1701
Rex Kicka**
Members of the anti-government Hutaree terrorist organization that were recently arrested over the weekend, have decided to oppose government by asking for public defenders.
Athomeboy_2000
QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 02:47 PM) *
Members of the anti-government Hutaree terrorist organization that were recently arrested over the weekend, have decided to oppose government by asking for public defenders.

LMAO! Dumbasses.
lostfan
If you read Greenwald's blog today (BS I'm sure you did) he ripped my employer pretty good. He is knowledgeable on the subject but he has an outsider's perspective and he skews it hard to make it sound like private intelligence contractors are soulless, evil people that are unaccountable to the law and taking over the government. This isn't true at all. Contracting and consulting is a legit business, the federal government pays contractors for practical purposes, and we have to follow the same rules that we would if we were government employees. Put in even more simple legal terms: these companies have a contract with the government and if they fail to meet the terms, which includes following certain rules, then there are definitely bad consequences.
Balta1701
QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 05:21 PM) *
these companies have a contract with the government and if they fail to meet the terms, which includes following certain rules, then there are definitely bad consequences.

At least in the last administration, usually those bad consequences were another, larger contract.
lostfan
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 05:23 PM) *
At least in the last administration, usually those bad consequences were another, larger contract.

In Iraq, anyway. That's a whole other animal entirely, that was like the Wild West in the first half of the Bush Administration.
FlaSoxxJim
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 05:23 PM) *
At least in the last administration, usually those bad consequences were another, larger contract.


You mean the kind that usually involves putting your soul down as a downpayment?
kapkomet
QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 04:26 PM) *
You mean the kind that usually involves putting your soul down as a downpayment?



But Democrats wouldn't know anything about that.
FlaSoxxJim
QUOTE (kapkomet @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 06:59 PM) *
But Democrats wouldn't know anything about that.


Sadly, that's obviously not the case. See today's decision to offer up the rape of our coastal environment to appease the opposition as the most recent case in point.
kapkomet
QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 09:27 PM) *
Sadly, that's obviously not the case. See today's decision to offer up the rape of our coastal environment to appease the opposition as the most recent case in point.



You are stupid enough (which I know you're not stupid) to think that he's doing this to appease the GOP? lolhitting.gif
FlaSoxxJim
QUOTE (kapkomet @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 11:04 PM) *
You are stupid enough (which I know you're not stupid) to think that he's doing this to appease the GOP? lolhitting.gif


I don't have a clue as to why he's doing it. That we can't drill our way to energy independence is a statement of fact, as is the reality that none of this will help combat $3+ gas this summer, next summer, or any of the next 8 or 9 summers after that. The gamesmanship, the "rope-a-dope" hypothesis set forth earlier. . . none of it justifies or excuses the total backwards thinking of this announced strategy.
bmags
well it isn't to appease the democrats.
FlaSoxxJim
QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 11:55 PM) *
well it isn't to appease the democrats.


Democrat here, most certainly not appeased.
kapkomet
QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 10:55 PM) *
well it isn't to appease the democrats.


He's already told Congress that he has his lawyers taking care of the issue. Funny how the lawsuits were ready to go today about blocking this. Hmmm.

He did this because this was the message to Congress to get the cap and trade legislation off of the shelf, and to dupe America into saying he worked with the GOP and they mocked him. Of course they did, because his announcement today means absolutely nothing, and everyone knows it... except those who want it to mean (or look like) something.
StrangeSox
QUOTE (kapkomet @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 11:17 PM) *
He's already told Congress that he has his lawyers taking care of the issue. Funny how the lawsuits were ready to go today about blocking this. Hmmm.

He did this because this was the message to Congress to get the cap and trade legislation off of the shelf, and to dupe America into saying he worked with the GOP and they mocked him. Of course they did, because his announcement today means absolutely nothing, and everyone knows it... except those who want it to mean (or look like) something.


If he opens up off-shore drilling but there are legitimate legal challenges to implementing any of it, it means that the talking point dies.
BigSqwert
QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 10:59 PM) *
Democrat here, most certainly not appeased.

It's a great way to fizzle away the political capital of your base after a huge victory with health care.
NorthSideSox72
QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 1, 2010 -> 07:07 AM) *
It's a great way to fizzle away the political capital of your base after a huge victory with health care.

He knows his base isn't going anywhere. He also knows that what is going to come after this is big funding for renewable energy, and that any offshore drilling, if it even occurs, is years away. He just puts the policy idea out there now, for all the political reasons specified earlier.

You want environmental progress, and you are going to get it - but its not going to be the full-on windfall you would have liked. This is the political reality at present. A fwe hundred billion more dollars for alt energy, and further wild land protection, is going to cost you offshore drilling RESEARCH, and a few nuclear plants. Its called compromise.
BigSqwert
QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 1, 2010 -> 07:23 AM) *
He knows his base isn't going anywhere.


But poll after poll shows much more Republican enthusiasm for likely voters this Fall. Big parts of the base will stay home in November with things like this on the headlines. How about riding some momentum as a strategy?
StrangeSox
I have a feeling that more democrats/ liberals will be energized come November simply to keep Republicans from taking seats.
Balta1701
QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 1, 2010 -> 08:30 AM) *
But poll after poll shows much more Republican enthusiasm for likely voters this Fall. Big parts of the base will stay home in November with things like this on the headlines. How about riding some momentum as a strategy?

Actually, there was a sharp change in those exact polls last week. I'm not sure what exactly changed, but something big happened in the early part of last week, like Sunday through Tuesday.
NorthSideSox72
QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 1, 2010 -> 07:30 AM) *
But poll after poll shows much more Republican enthusiasm for likely voters this Fall. Big parts of the base will stay home in November with things like this on the headlines. How about riding some momentum as a strategy?

That IS their strategy, but my calendar says April 1st, not November 1st. Have to set up the run, can't just floor it for 7 months, or you get the opposite effect.
Balta1701
BTW, worth noting somewhere...remember how I kept saying that Bush's illegal wiretapping was illegal? Yesterday a court agreed.
BigSqwert
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 1, 2010 -> 08:17 AM) *
BTW, worth noting somewhere...remember how I kept saying that Bush's illegal wiretapping was illegal? Yesterday a court agreed.

Isn't Obama continuing the program or am I mistaken?
Balta1701
QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 1, 2010 -> 09:50 AM) *
Isn't Obama continuing the program or am I mistaken?

Frankly, I don't know well enough what exactly was in "the program" to know whether or not its continuing. We established that they were doing a whole lot of illegal things, but we never figured out what was going on in some of those hidden rooms that AT&T had set up.
NorthSideSox72
QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 1, 2010 -> 08:50 AM) *
Isn't Obama continuing the program or am I mistaken?

That program ended in 2007, while still under Bush.
BigSqwert
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"In Warrantless Wiretapping Case, Obama DOJ's New Arguments Are Worse Than Bush's."


via Greenwald
Balta1701
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The Republican National Committee sent a fundraising mail piece earlier this month with a return number that leads to a phone-sex line offering "live, one-on-one talk with a nasty girl who will do anything you want for just $2.99 per minute."

At the bottom of a piece designed to resemble a census form, a toll-free number is listed next to the national party's address.

A voter in Minnesota received the mailer and called the number intending to complain about the attempt to raise money with a form that looks like a government document.

But the Minnesotan was instead directed to a second toll-free number that greets callers as "sexy guy" before offering them the chance to talk with "real local students, housewives and working girls from all over the country."

The individual then forwarded the mail piece to the voter's congressman, a Democrat, who shared it with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

A spokesman for the RNC declined to say how many copies of the census-style mailer were sent out.

"The number in question was a typographical error by a vendor used on this particular mailer — using 1-800 instead of 202," said RNC Communications Director Doug Heye.
Link.

I now have 2 running theories.

1. George W. Bush was an Iranian agent.
2. Michael Steele is a plant by Obama's version of the "Plumbers".
BigSqwert
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Terry Lakin: Army Officer Joins Birthers, Defies Orders

Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, an Army physician, has refused to obey any orders from his commanding officers -- including President Obama -- until Obama produces his birth certificate.

"Any reasonable person looking critically at the evidence currently in the public domain would have questions about President Obama's claim to be a natural born citizen," Lakin says in the below video released the right-wing American Patriot Foundation. "I will disobey my orders to deploy [to Afghanistan] because I, and I believe all servicemen and women and the American people, deserve the truth about President Obama's constitutional eligibility to the office of the presidency and the commander in chief."

Lakin says this marks the first time during his 18 years in the Army that he has chosen to disobey "what I believe are illegal orders." Evidently he didn't feel the need to personally verify the citizenship of his three previous commanders-in-chief.


Emphasis mine.

Via
StrangeSox
It'll be funny when he gets prison time.
Balta1701
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 1, 2010 -> 01:42 PM) *
It'll be funny when he gets prison time.

Fox won't let that happen.
StrangeSox
he isn't the first to try this. The other cases have been represented by Taitz and were working through the courts last I heard (getting admonished at every stage).
NIUSox
Didn't know where to put this so I threw it in here. This is a really good commentary by Ebert on Texas and the textbook battle.

Texas Textbook Battle
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