Steve9347
Jul 9, 2011 -> 07:06 AM
As someone who is really taking golf seriously for the first time in my life, I tought a thread like this would be sweet.
I finally received the best golf tip ever from a buddy last year, and it has completely eradicated my debilitating slice. So much so that I've been making pars and having birdie attempts with regularity. This, this is a great turn of events.
Anyway, I found a sweet Android app (Golfshot GPS), that for $29.99 really does work as well as a $300 SkyCaddy. Anyone in the West Suburbs who wants to play a round, the Village Links of Glen Ellyn has $8 twilight golf, which is by far the cheapest and best value I've found in Chicagoland.
bigruss22
Jul 9, 2011 -> 07:40 AM
I would like to know said tip, because Ive got that awful slice with my driver. Iron shots are pretty good actually, but man I lose 50+ yards every time I hit a driver just from lack of top spin, not to mention the farther distance to the right.
Steve9347
Jul 9, 2011 -> 07:53 AM
QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 08:40 AM)

I would like to know said tip, because Ive got that awful slice with my driver. Iron shots are pretty good actually, but man I lose 50+ yards every time I hit a driver just from lack of top spin, not to mention the farther distance to the right.
Grab your driver. This tip actually helps all shots straighten out.
In your normal position as if a ball is on the tee, release your trailing arm and let it fall naturally to your side. If it comes back to your body, you're doing it wrong.
Raise your lead shoulder until your right hand (in a right handed swing) naturally falls straight back (from the ball)and not towards your body. Once you do that, keep your shoulder in said position and let it rip.
IlliniKrush
Apr 13, 2013 -> 10:09 AM
Bump.
Steve, I'm looking to try to hammer out this tip. When I try to follow exactly what you said, it seems awkward. I'm just raising my shoulder only? Tilting my body with it?
I'm with Hurt, I have a terrible slice on every drive, irons are usually fine. I have to line up at about a 45 degree angle off the tee, and I can nail the middle of the fairway.
Also got my own set of clubs for xmas this year. Nothing fancy, just a good starter set. I don't need great equipment, I'm just a rec golfer and just really starting to get into it a bit more. But it's still cool to not use my Dad's old school ones.
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You guys ever play Top Golf? It's really fun if you haven't. And Steve it's our your way.
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In other news, interesting news at Augusta this morning with the Tiger Woods penalty etc.
RockRaines
Apr 13, 2013 -> 10:30 AM
If you are slicing you are probably hitting across the ball. Bringing the club up too steeply then yanking it across the ball with the face open.
Sometimes if you just stand a little further from the ball and bend a bit more at the waist you can make this impossible.
I'm about a 12 and have gone through a slice phase, a duck hook phase, a "now I'm hitting the ball 40 yards further" phase etc. golf is awesome.
kev211
Apr 14, 2013 -> 09:03 AM
QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 13, 2013 -> 11:09 AM)

Bump.
Steve, I'm looking to try to hammer out this tip. When I try to follow exactly what you said, it seems awkward. I'm just raising my shoulder only? Tilting my body with it?
I'm with Hurt, I have a terrible slice on every drive, irons are usually fine. I have to line up at about a 45 degree angle off the tee, and I can nail the middle of the fairway.
Also got my own set of clubs for xmas this year. Nothing fancy, just a good starter set. I don't need great equipment, I'm just a rec golfer and just really starting to get into it a bit more. But it's still cool to not use my Dad's old school ones.
***********
You guys ever play Top Golf? It's really fun if you haven't. And Steve it's our your way.
************
In other news, interesting news at Augusta this morning with the Tiger Woods penalty etc.
I've had this problem forever. I've become really good at hitting the fairway with this trick though haha
zenryan
Apr 14, 2013 -> 11:10 AM
when I first started playing and was slicing all over, I teed the ball up across from my front foot. I hit lower drives but they were straight. I gradually moved the ball back from there as I got more comfortable.
LittleHurt05
Apr 14, 2013 -> 01:34 PM
How does a pro golfer shoot a 10 on a par 3? Kevin Na & Bubba Watson both did it today.
Harry Chappas
Apr 14, 2013 -> 05:03 PM
Great finish.
Jenksismybitch
Apr 14, 2013 -> 06:39 PM
To people who say golf sucks without Tiger, they're really missing out. That was a great Masters tournament.
LittleHurt05
Apr 14, 2013 -> 07:42 PM
QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Apr 14, 2013 -> 06:03 PM)

Great finish.
That was incredible. That's what sports are all about.
ChiSox_Sonix
Apr 15, 2013 -> 07:23 AM
Jenksismybitch
Apr 15, 2013 -> 09:00 AM
Amazing photo:
Steve9347
Apr 15, 2013 -> 09:54 AM
That was such a great tournament to watch. Had the father-in-law and sister-in-law's boyfriend over to watch masters all day Saturday. Hooked the pc to the tv and stereo and watched from 11-1 - hit the bar watched the rest of the day.
Yesterday was good for recovery.
HeGone33
Apr 15, 2013 -> 11:06 AM
For anyone in the area, I'd recommend Justin Bentley with Golftec Des Plaines. I've been working with him for about 2.5 years now and he has completely changed my game in every way.
Steve9347
Apr 15, 2013 -> 11:07 AM
QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Apr 15, 2013 -> 12:06 PM)

For anyone in the area, I'd recommend Justin Bentley with Golftec Des Plaines. I've been working with him for about 2.5 years now and he has completely changed my game in every way.
What does something like this run, cost-wise?
HeGone33
Apr 15, 2013 -> 01:06 PM
They typcially sell lesson packages that in my case have worked out to be around $55 per lesson. The more you buy in the package, the cheaper per lesson. I usually get the 10 or 15 lesson package.
southsider2k5
May 3, 2013 -> 09:40 AM
RockRaines
May 8, 2013 -> 10:15 AM
Hoping it stay nice this weekend so I can start carving up SW michigan.
IlliniKrush
May 8, 2013 -> 10:41 AM
Had a par the other day. Felt like I won the Masters.
Steve9347
May 8, 2013 -> 10:44 AM
QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ May 8, 2013 -> 11:41 AM)

Had a par the other day. Felt like I won the Masters.
Ha!
I haven't been able to get out this year. The two days planned wound up having absolutely awful weather, and I've had a lot of family s*** and work s*** taking up my time. That said, when I was hitting it a lot last year I was nailing birdies and pars and they are absolutely majestic.
IlliniKrush
May 8, 2013 -> 10:46 AM
QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 8, 2013 -> 11:44 AM)

Ha!
I haven't been able to get out this year. The two days planned wound up having absolutely awful weather, and I've had a lot of family s*** and work s*** taking up my time. That said, when I was hitting it a lot last year I was nailing birdies and pars and they are absolutely majestic.
It was a par 3, but even still, I don't get pars much at all.
I'm usually getting 6's and 7's on holes, which while not great, isn't terrible IMO. If I could not 3 putt almost everything, I'd be in better shape. I have zero clue how to judge hitting long putts, just to try for a 2 putt.
Well that and me aiming at more than a 45 degree angle to the left off the tee so my crazy slice finds the fairway.
RockRaines
May 8, 2013 -> 10:47 AM
QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ May 8, 2013 -> 11:46 AM)

It was a par 3, but even still, I don't get pars much at all.
I'm usually getting 6's and 7's on holes, which while not great, isn't terrible IMO. If I could not 3 putt almost everything, I'd be in better shape. I have zero clue how to judge hitting long putts, just to try for a 2 putt.
Well that and me aiming at more than a 45 degree angle to the left off the tee so my crazy slice finds the fairway.
Tee shot your main issue? Is it always a slice?
bigruss22
May 8, 2013 -> 10:54 AM
QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 8, 2013 -> 11:47 AM)

Tee shot your main issue? Is it always a slice?
I have the worst slice, drivers only though.
IlliniKrush
May 8, 2013 -> 11:00 AM
QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 8, 2013 -> 11:47 AM)

Tee shot your main issue? Is it always a slice?
Yeah, nothing slices except my drive. And I'm talking severe, and every single time. I line up so far left and then immediately it slices and starts back and I can usually find the fairway. In addition to looking ridiculous, I know I'm losing a ton of distance.
Eventually I will try to get a lesson or two to see if there's something easy to fix.
IlliniKrush
May 8, 2013 -> 11:01 AM
QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 8, 2013 -> 11:54 AM)

I have the worst slice, drivers only though.
Want to play together?
Steve9347
May 8, 2013 -> 11:01 AM
QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ May 8, 2013 -> 11:46 AM)

It was a par 3, but even still, I don't get pars much at all.
I'm usually getting 6's and 7's on holes, which while not great, isn't terrible IMO. If I could not 3 putt almost everything, I'd be in better shape. I have zero clue how to judge hitting long putts, just to try for a 2 putt.
Well that and me aiming at more than a 45 degree angle to the left off the tee so my crazy slice finds the fairway.
I used to have that slice. I then got the greatest golf tip of all-time which helped me fix it. 300 yard drives happen a lot for me now. It's hard to explain, but I'll try.
Assuming you are a righty, when holding your club raise your left shoulder. A lot. You should raise your left shoulder until when you naturally release your right hand it falls straight back away from your target.
Try it out. Do your normal stance and release your right hand and I bet anything it comes back towards you. Let it naturally fall, don't force it. That s*** might even hit your leg. Guess what, that means your s***'s f***ed.
So raise your lead shoulder until that hand falls straight back away from the f***ing target. It'll be uncomfortable at first, but once you get your swing down with that s***, you'll be asking me my address so you can properly thank me.
IlliniKrush
May 8, 2013 -> 11:06 AM
QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 8, 2013 -> 12:01 PM)

I used to have that slice. I then got the greatest golf tip of all-time which helped me fix it. 300 yard drives happen a lot for me now. It's hard to explain, but I'll try.
Assuming you are a righty, when holding your club raise your left shoulder. A lot. You should raise your left shoulder until when you naturally release your right hand it falls straight back away from your target.
Try it out. Do your normal stance and release your right hand and I bet anything it comes back towards you. Let it naturally fall, don't force it. That s*** might even hit your leg. Guess what, that means your s***'s f***ed.
So raise your lead shoulder until that hand falls straight back away from the f***ing target. It'll be uncomfortable at first, but once you get your swing down with that s***, you'll be asking me my address so you can properly thank me.
I remember you talking about this before, but I couldn't figure it out. I will try exactly as you say next time I'm out there, or at least grab a club here and try to figure it out. You're right, it is hard to explain/figure out. It just feels awkward and like "wtf am I doing."
So it's just raising the shoulder? I'm not shifting at the hips or anything? And then keep said shoulder high throughout the swing?
RockRaines
May 8, 2013 -> 11:11 AM
QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ May 8, 2013 -> 12:06 PM)

I remember you talking about this before, but I couldn't figure it out. I will try exactly as you say next time I'm out there, or at least grab a club here and try to figure it out. You're right, it is hard to explain/figure out. It just feels awkward and like "wtf am I doing."
So it's just raising the shoulder? I'm not shifting at the hips or anything? And then keep said shoulder high throughout the swing?
A slice is a couple of things. One you are probably swinging too steep from outside to inside. You can still hit irons this way. Second the club face is open at impact. The easiest fix would be to take a look at your grip and also forcing you to rotate a bit more on your backswing and aim for the inside of the ball.
Steve9347
May 8, 2013 -> 11:15 AM
QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ May 8, 2013 -> 12:06 PM)

I remember you talking about this before, but I couldn't figure it out. I will try exactly as you say next time I'm out there, or at least grab a club here and try to figure it out. You're right, it is hard to explain/figure out. It just feels awkward and like "wtf am I doing."
So it's just raising the shoulder? I'm not shifting at the hips or anything? And then keep said shoulder high throughout the swing?
Normal golf stance. Raise front shoulder until your right hand falls NATURALLY straight back. I've actually learned to force my arms straight back and get a ton of power. With practice makes perfect. We could always shoot 9 and grab a beer at some point.
RockRaines
May 8, 2013 -> 11:23 AM
QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 8, 2013 -> 12:15 PM)

Normal golf stance. Raise front shoulder until your right hand falls NATURALLY straight back. I've actually learned to force my arms straight back and get a ton of power. With practice makes perfect. We could always shoot 9 and grab a beer at some point.
So what Steve is doing here is trying to force you not to be able to come across the ball instead aiming the swing more towards the outside.
Steve9347
May 8, 2013 -> 11:27 AM
QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 8, 2013 -> 12:23 PM)

So what Steve is doing here is trying to force you not to be able to come across the ball instead aiming the swing more towards the outside.
Exactly, it's a forced correction that teaches you proper mechanics over time. Eventually, it feels natural. None of us are Tiger Woods, but this has really helped me eradicate any slice on drives and get sick, consistent distance.
IlliniKrush
May 8, 2013 -> 12:21 PM
I'm guessing part of this stems from me playing so much baseball as a kid, and just recently picking up golf last few years, casually.
Rock now I think I understand the concept, at least somewhat...one of these days I'll hit the range instead of the course and hit 500 ball until it's not as bad. I bet if I saw it on video I'd be like "holy f***, that looks awful"
Steve, I actually come out by you to play with snb sometimes, so this wouldn't be too hard to arrange. Plus, we both like beer.
Steve9347
May 8, 2013 -> 02:57 PM
QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ May 8, 2013 -> 01:21 PM)

I'm guessing part of this stems from me playing so much baseball as a kid, and just recently picking up golf last few years, casually.
Rock now I think I understand the concept, at least somewhat...one of these days I'll hit the range instead of the course and hit 500 ball until it's not as bad. I bet if I saw it on video I'd be like "holy f***, that looks awful"
Steve, I actually come out by you to play with snb sometimes, so this wouldn't be too hard to arrange. Plus, we both like beer.
k, just holler next time you are playing and I'll see if it works.
RockRaines
May 8, 2013 -> 03:00 PM
QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ May 8, 2013 -> 01:21 PM)

I'm guessing part of this stems from me playing so much baseball as a kid, and just recently picking up golf last few years, casually.
Rock now I think I understand the concept, at least somewhat...one of these days I'll hit the range instead of the course and hit 500 ball until it's not as bad. I bet if I saw it on video I'd be like "holy f***, that looks awful"
Steve, I actually come out by you to play with snb sometimes, so this wouldn't be too hard to arrange. Plus, we both like beer.
What helped me go from slice to draw and much better off the tee was a concept called the simple golf swing. It helped me start swinging from the inside. I could probably send you a sharefile to the book and vids.
IlliniKrush
May 8, 2013 -> 03:01 PM
That would be dandy.
bigruss22
May 12, 2013 -> 12:38 PM
Spending the weekend in SW Michigan with the family so my dad and I went out yesterday for 9 holes. Holy s***, finally found a swing that has corrected the slice by a TON. I knew I inside-outed the ball a lot before, so I've been trying to correct that, but I finally got it to start working consistently and actually feeling good as I swing through. Fairly straight shots and closer to the distances that I would expect. On top of that, my new irons are starting to feel a lot better, I pretty much made solid contact on 80% of my hits.
Decided to go out to a driving range today to continue to work on both, kept feeling great. Suddenly, this game makes so much more sense
bmags
May 12, 2013 -> 05:00 PM
LOL Sergio
flavum
May 12, 2013 -> 05:08 PM
QUOTE (bmags @ May 12, 2013 -> 06:00 PM)

LOL Sergio
That was something at 17.
Brian
May 13, 2013 -> 04:08 AM
QUOTE (bmags @ May 12, 2013 -> 06:00 PM)

LOL Sergio
Hi-larious stuff. Shocked he didn't blame Tiger.
RockRaines
May 17, 2013 -> 12:21 PM
Finally fixed the little duck hook thats been plaguing my driver, now a little on the fade side which I hate but it will naturally come back to my bread and butter draw. Now just give me some nice hot weather please.
iamshack
May 17, 2013 -> 12:28 PM
QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 17, 2013 -> 11:21 AM)

Finally fixed the little duck hook thats been plaguing my driver, now a little on the fade side which I hate but it will naturally come back to my bread and butter draw. Now just give me some nice hot weather please.
You know when that happens your short game will then go to s***
RockRaines
May 17, 2013 -> 12:52 PM
QUOTE (iamshack @ May 17, 2013 -> 01:28 PM)

You know when that happens your short game will then go to s***

No, my irons will. My short game is consistent actually, I am a good putter. My irons and Driver never seem to be on the same page. For example ill start striping my irons dead straight with a great ball flight path and my driver will start duck hooking with top spin.
iamshack
May 17, 2013 -> 12:54 PM
QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 17, 2013 -> 11:52 AM)

No, my irons will. My short game is consistent actually, I am a good putter. My irons and Driver never seem to be on the same page. For example ill start striping my irons dead straight with a great ball flight path and my driver will start duck hooking with top spin.
Yep, it's always something...
RockRaines
May 17, 2013 -> 02:05 PM
QUOTE (iamshack @ May 17, 2013 -> 01:54 PM)

Yep, it's always something...
Literally the only thing that is consistent for me is putting as long as the greens arent extremely slow muni-style
Heads22
May 18, 2013 -> 11:46 AM
This is the summer I'm finally taking up golf.
Brian
May 19, 2013 -> 07:09 AM
Aggravated my back two weeks ago and haven't been able to play yet this year. Its killing me because I couldn't play at all last year.
Want to go to the driving range this week but its suppose to rain all week.
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