lol no no no!

Pathetic

The only thing this game would convince me to sell is Ozzie for whatever I could get.

With even decent managing this game is 4-1 or 4-2 Sox win. Just arent going to get very far with Ozzie as the manager.

Great stuff in here guys tonight.

Can't bench him -- we're "showcasing" him. LOL.

Hell no....this division is there for the taking.

Sell, sell, sell. Im sick of Peavy maybe Yanks will bite.

You can't believe it? The 14 hopper to short is Alex's trademark. I'm just happy he didn't do it on the first pitch.

come on you really think they hire anyone worth anything they will get another guy that works cheap

Hypothetically, would you still say that if the Tigers acquire a starter like Fister and another piece maybe?

I kid. At this point, with the way Rios has played, green font seemed truly unnecessary.

Sox can win the division regardless of what any other team does. They have the best staff in the division by far.

If they had a semi-competent manager this race may not even be close. Its just pathetic what Ozzie is doing.

cant really be that upset over this loss, we were at a disadvantage from the beginning with Javier Peavy on the mound, and a mgr who has no clue how to get a bullpen ready whe he's on the mound

2 homers, not much else

rios blows, but valverde is good, b****ing about rios making an out there is laughable

This loss is on Ozzie's mis-managing the pitching.

trade ozzie to marlins for prospects, let Cora manage out the remainder of the year.

2011 white sox baseball - pathetic

Yeah they cant fix all their problems at the trade deadline

Hopefully they can atleast win tmr and not f*** up against Sherzer. Sherzer hasn't been that great this yr, but he has owned the Sox if they atleast try the way they did today against Verlander then we can win tmr

I am so sick of Ozzie Guillen. I wish I had the time, energy, and math to go back and figure out how many wins he's likely cost us. Losing to Verlander, regardless of how we've done against him in the past, softens the blow a bit but 4 ER off of him you are justified in hoping for a W.

Why did KW sign Ohman for 2 years for 4 mil?

He's been fine recently. This game is so much more on Big Mouth Peavy.

Yes.

But honestly, I don't care what they do, as long as they get good players back. I think the market is set up for us to make a bit of a killing if we go out there and deal some pitching. And as much as I would miss Quentin, I wouldn't mind seeing what Viciedo could do out there.

So if we can get some good talent in here for Quentin/Jackson/Thornton, so be it.

But can you say White Flag Trade II?

the innings and pitch counts usually catch up to Verlander in the second half. If they do, that team is screwed.

It really is sad how little Peavy and guillen bring to the table compared to a couple of years ago.....rios is a whole other bag of s***

If Dunn is coming around there is plenty to look forward too.

What are their problems now outside of starting pitching and needing another reliever? Their pen should be now that New Mexico and Coke are in their pen.

4 and a half back now?

You're right. We should've expected Valverde to cool off the perpetually hot Alex Rios.

As Jason said earlier, most of the possible trades aren't for low A players, etc. It would be for guys who can play at the MLB level now while getting Viciedo into the lineup.

Everyone, and I mean everyone, knew Peavy was done after the 5th. He doesn't have the endurance/arm strength to go any further in the game than that. How Ozzie and Coop don't know this is beyond me. Go to the bullpen that has been the best in the ML in the last month and let them put the game away.

WHY WAS HE LEFT IN TO THROW 111 PITCHES????

Holy f***.

We have no idea who the trades will be for.

are you going to find the wins too. Or do the players get credit for the wins and Ozzie gets the blame for the losses. Thornton's horrible pitching to Betemit had as much as anything to do with the loss.

Starting pitching is a really big one. Its not like just one will solve their problems.

I tend to go with the pitchers not getting the job done. It was one of the most consistent guys in the pen that allowed the leading run to score.

Rios bats like Buerhle pitches, like he has his car double parked on 35th St. He can't wait to get out of there.

Having Ohman start the inning was stupid as hell

Well the guillen family biographer is lighting up Kenny on twitter. His handlers must be concerned that a few players missing might move them out of Chicago.

What are they saying

Just go get the win tomorrow and we're in good shape. Then we face Wakefield, Miller, and moLester this weekend.

has peavy won a game since he was running his mouth about everybody need to man up down the stretch......BUM

Please, go ahead and point me to a win that was due to Ozzie's great managing skillz.....I'll probably be waiting a while.

Had Ozzie known his personnel and pulled Peavy after 5, Thornton wouldn't have been in the position to blow the game.

By the way, has Rios always batted like he's trying to take a s*** in the woods?

Ozzie: "I gotta go by innings, not pitches."

WHAT???? You are a MORON Ozzie. It is ALL about pitches, especially for a pitcher coming back from major surgery and time off.

GET THIS f***ING IDIOT OUT OF HERE!

it actually is scary how many former players come back to beat he Sox

school starts in 12 days.

I'll be thankful for the distraction from this B**ch.

He has to have one of the worst quality starts/games starter percentages in the AL

He'd be a perfect long reliever right now.

Holy s***, did he really say that? He's the same idiot that would probably let a 16 game winner with a 6 ERA start game 1 in the postseason over a 10 game winner with a 2 ERA.

funny because we actually need one right now

There was no excuse for Jake Peavy to START the 6th inning. He was allowed to face NINE BATTERS in it instead. Those three runs in a one run loss are somewhat important.

Yep, if only we had another starter in our organization besides Buerhle, Jackson, Danks and Floyd that can give you a real good 5 innings but might struggle later in games.

He's afraid to take Jake out before it's clear he's gassed. That much is obvious. When Cooper called to get Ohman up they should have been stalling the s*** out of the game to get him warm. But Ozzie is too afraid of Jake's "fire."

What are the chances that Peavy struggles in his next start and him/Ozzie and the Peavy People excuse it due to his high pitch count from this start?