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  1. There’s really no spot for him now that they resigned Rodon.
    7 points
  2. You could fill a large lake with the water you carry for this organization. I am sold. They did their best. If we dont win the division or any playoff games this year. We can always have this.
    6 points
  3. Mets are about to sign Bauer and Sox fans are on the edge of their seat trying to find out whether Folty chose us. I am one of those Sox fans lol.
    5 points
  4. The Collins love on this site is incredible. The guy is not exactly a front line player. He is not great defensively and what we’re his stats in the minors? He is not that great. Neither is lecroy but he probably knows how to handle pitchers and is a smart catcher. Good depth for sure , nice sign. That’s it no all star no starter just good damn depth.
    4 points
  5. 4 points
  6. Man, if only the Sox could be the what the Padres were in the Machado saga to the Mets and Dodgers. Go screw yourself JR...
    4 points
  7. I hate the owner so much of this franchise.
    4 points
  8. "Down to 2" Sox and Mets are both the second teams in their respective cities. Sox are from the Second City. Bauer is signing with the Sox.
    4 points
  9. Idk, I think it’s kind of refreshing. Agents do it all the time. They even lie to reporters to get their clients more money. She’s been pretty transparent and I think it’s a good look. I’m not a Bauer guy but I don’t see the problem with her confirming that there are two teams left. Helps make the offseason less excruciating and kills nonsense rumors. But I’m not a peer or a GM like you so I digress.
    4 points
  10. With some quality baseball journalists being let go I have no idea why Bob has a job still. He’s is so unequivocally awful at his job.
    3 points
  11. So Collins is gonna have to prove he can ACTUALLY catch. This is a great depth/fallback move.
    3 points
  12. As opposed to Scott Boras doing a press conference or selected leaks to his favorite reporters?
    3 points
  13. lmao @ the luba hate, this is just absurd what's wrong with her tweet? It's quite clear that this is the 'end game' with all the national reporters reporting that it's down to mets/dodgers.
    3 points
  14. how unprofessional for Luba to tweet that. Seriously, if that is how she thinks she should do business...good luck.
    3 points
  15. Using their ridiculously low payrolls at peak rebuild to suggest they spent most of the Machado money is poor logic. The reality is that money has not been spent at this point in time. However, if they can extend Giolito & Lynn and possibly add a few years onto Anderson’s deal I’d probably change my tune.
    2 points
  16. JR "Hello I would like to place a collect call to Hudson Hill 5-9975 please" Operator "What?"
    2 points
  17. Well not every teams Chairman calls Bob on their personal rotary phone.
    2 points
  18. He’s only accurate when it’s bad news for the Sox
    2 points
  19. Scott Boras has turned free agency into a circus for decades, and he has done just fine. Let's see what the deal looks like and then we can judge the job that was done.
    2 points
  20. Wait, there's people on this board who still think we might sign Bauer? Wtf
    2 points
  21. I'm going to guess it's the team that didn't ask the free agent to bend over backwards to fit their plans and instead is the teams that respected the players value.
    2 points
  22. Thank god we didn't sign Machado or Harper. Imagine trying to fill in the lineup/roster and keep the gold in the swimming pool filled. It would be impossible.
    2 points
  23. Yes it is. You're on the clock to win a world series . You got a free agent without many suitors who wants to play on a contender, likes your coaching staff, actually wants to be here, who is open to some kind of oddly structured contract, and the Sox, who tell you all about multiple championships and the money will be spent, look the gift horse in the mouth because JR can't spend more than last year because the poor owners lost so much money .
    2 points
  24. It was super frustrating, but it's a confounding draft class to me. I think I agree that it's likely sox had planned on some additional cubans to make the jump, but it was reversed by Trump admin. Sox may have had a bunch of extra budget at that point, the rest of players under previous agreements, so they just made sure they got Sanchez away from some teams in the previous year who still had money (orioles, etc). And the other part of it is that class has some really interesting pieces, moreso than many previous years. Bailey is the obvious, but it plucked a very interesting year as a 16 year old with really great K rates. Veloz was 18, but has chance to fill out and dominated the DSL that year. Christian Vera we'll see this year, along with Wilfred Veras. And then Tatis showed little, but keeps getting mentioned by sox. So maybe we'll find out this year that despite missing a real top 30 talent when we expected one, that it was a good class. I mean 2018 we had no idea would produce what it did, with Ramos and others.
    2 points
  25. I woulda loved hill.. Given him the 5th starter role until he gets hurt in his 3rd start, then let Rodon take over until he got hurt, then it's June1 and Kopech can come up.
    2 points
  26. If you look at Spotrac, you can see who the Sox have under contractual control over the next several years. Starting Lineup - SS Tim Anderson - 2021, 22, 23, 24 - 3B Yoan Moncada - 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 - 1B Jose Abreu - 21, 22 - LF Eloy Jimenez - 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 - C Yasmani Grandal - 21, 22, 23 - DH/1B - Andrew Vaughn - 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 - CF Luis Robert - 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27 - RF Adam Eaton - 21, 22 - 2B Nick Madrigal - 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 Bench - Utility Leury Garcia - 21 - C Zack Collins - 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 - OF Adam Engel - 21, 22, 23 - Extra bench player??? There could be room for another player here. Starting pitchers - Lucas Giolito - 21, 22, 23 - Dallas Keuchel - 21, 22, 23 - Lance Lynn - 21 - Dylan Cease - 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 - Carlos Rodon - 21 - Reynaldo Lopez - 21, 22, 23 Bullpen - Liam Hendriks - 21, 22, 23, 24 - Aaron Bummer - 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 - Evan Marshall - 21, 22 - Matt Foster - 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 - Cody Heuer - 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 - Jace Fry - 21, 22, 23 - Jimmy Cordero - 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 - Zack Burdi -, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 Transition Pitcher - Garrett Crochet - 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 - Michael Kopech - 21, 22, 24, 24, 25, 26 2021 Payroll allocation - $123M 2022 Payroll - $116M - no arb 2023 Payroll - $86M - 10 arb 2024 Payroll - $85M - 7 arb ************ Assuming they exercise options: In 2022, they could lose: Garcia, Lynn, Rodon In 2023, they could lose: Abreu, Eaton, Marshall In 2024, they could lose: Grandal, Engel, Giolito, Keuchel, Lopez, Fry I did this little exercise to see graphically where the Sox stand over the next few years. In 2022, the Sox will probably look to extend Lance Lynn. He will get a lot more than the $8M he's getting this year. Leury Garcia can likely be brought back if they like him for a similar number. Whether Rodon returns is a wild card. In 2023, will the Sox let Jose Abreu walk? Not likely. But Eaton and Marshall will likely be replaced. But this is the year when 10 players could hit arbitration, when salaries will rise quite a bit. In 2024, Grandal and Giolito will be up. Giolito has to be the priority. Grandal will likely need to be replaced. Engel, Keuchel, Lopez (if he's still around) and Fry can be replaced. Overall, the Sox appear to be in tremendous shape through the next 4 years with the core of their young players growing together. If the Sox stay on this plan, their payroll commitment will naturally increase over those 4 years as young players get into arbitration years and the Sox need to extend their best players, like Lucas Giolito. If pitchers Garrett Crochet and Michael Kopech turn into TOR starters, the Sox will be able to move on from Keuchel and Lynn, but that's not likely before 2024. From this, I think you can argue that the Sox should spend more money and raise their payroll commitments from the $120M range to a higher platform. But you can also argue that the Sox have done a great job with the money they have spent. They don't really have any bad contracts, and they have a lot of really good ones. I'm just excited that the core of this team is locked up for at least the next 4 years! GO SOX!!!
    1 point
  27. Back in February 2019, right after the White Sox lost the Manny Machado sweepstakes, Rick Hahn gave the following quote: "The money will be spent. It might not be spent this offseason, but it will be spent at some point. This isn’t money sitting around waiting to just accumulate interest. It’s money trying to be deployed to put us in best position to win some championships." Here's a link to the article I pulled this from. Manny Machado' contract called for him to get $300M over 10 years. That was Feb 2019. Now the Sox didn't commit to $300M, which is part of the reason they lost. Their offer was speculated at around $250M. So let's use that latter number to assess whether Hahn has in fact spent that money. In 2019, the Sox had an active payroll of just over $70M. (All numbers from Spotrac.) In 2020, their active payroll was $107M. In 2021, it is $117M. I'm leaving out several spending categories from these numbers -- Injured list, reserve/exempt, retained salaries, player pool, and signing bonuses. So, if you compare just that number, the Sox went from $70M up to $107M in the first year after they lost on Machado. That's a $37M increase. What did they spend that money on? Yasmani Grandal: $18.25M/year Dallas Keuchel: $18M/year Jose Abreu extension: approx $18M average for 3 years Luis Robert contract Yoan Moncada extension Edwin Encarnacion: $13M Gio Gonzalez: $4.5M Nomar Mazara: $5.5M Aaron Bummer 5-year extension with 2 club options at $7.5M each Lance Lynn: $8M for 2021 Liam Hendriks: 4 years, $54M Adam Eaton: $8M avg for 2 years Attempt at signing Zack Wheeler, who took the Phillies offer of $23M/year. Signed Keuchel and Gonzalez instead for about the same amount. If you look at these numbers, I would think it would be pretty easy for Rick Hahn to defend the comment he made in February 2019. The Sox active payroll is $47M higher than it was when he said that, and with built in escalators for all the players they have locked up long term, or who will enter arbitration over the next several years, that number is just going to go higher during this window of Sox contention whether or not they add more free agents. See my 3-5 year window post here. I know we all want the Sox to spend more. Me included. But, in fairness to Rick Hahn, I don't think he was lying to the fans. I think the plan all along has been to spend about what they've spent while trying to put the best club on the field that they can for that money. I think they've done better at that this year than last year, when they wasted money on EE, while Gio and Mazara were busts.
    1 point
  28. I’d say Leury Garcia is pretty darn close to what you are describing.
    1 point
  29. That would certainly be a very entertaining squad to follow. I just hope Kanny got some video cameras installed at the new stadium so we'll actually be able to watch the games.
    1 point
  30. As suspected, with willful and proud ignorance of the situation and relevant issues. Sorry, the real world can't stick their head in the sand and pray mommy and daddy will make it all go away and give them an ice cream sundae for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and dessert. You should refrain from your own bitterness, with attacks on others pointing to resources explaining issues you have the inability and/or interest in understanding. Unlike what's reflected in your post history, there are adults here who have the ability to discuss issues beyond those of which a child can grasp.
    1 point
  31. Lucroy's defense will probably keep him slightly above replacement level as a backup. He's a nice bar for Collins to clear to earn the backup catcher role. This type of signing was definitely needed.
    1 point
  32. Yuck. This guy isn’t a major leaguer any more.
    1 point
  33. If he reaches FA in winter 2023 he'll be 29, the same age that Gerrit Cole got a 9 year, 336M deal, and Trevor Bauer is right now.
    1 point
  34. I don't believe anyone here knows what has been discussed. RH plays his cards close to the vest. I don't believe that our FO discusses this stuff with their best friends....there is just too much money at stake.
    1 point
  35. No, I don't think the Twins are better than they were last year. I think they were better than they were before they signed the FAs. The Twins bullpen is still worse than it was last year. The Twins rotation is worse than it was last year. The Twins offense is worse than it was last year. The only thing that improved is MI defense - admittedly but a lot. I agree Colome is solid addition at $6.25M. But he's not a world beater and his peripherals (and the eye test) suggest significant regression moving forward. Not at all impressed with the Twins offseason.
    1 point
  36. Seeing Mets, Brewers and Rays in on Rich Hill... Was holding out small, small hope we'd be on that list. Seems like a small price/risk to take and can fill a role the rest of the back of rotation -- I woulda wanted to throw him in there with Rodon, Crochet, Stiever, Kopech, Hill, Cease and let them all battle it out for innings. Losers get multi inning bullpen roles this year. Also if the Rays are in on someone means there's something there. It's almost the coop can fix em from 2004-2008
    1 point
  37. Then let's hope for a rainy spring. A rainout every 5 days through April and May.
    1 point
  38. I agree. Even after this move they have a lot of work to do with the bullpen. They could lose Romo as well.
    1 point
  39. For everyone that says every outing was an adventure - I'm going to plainly state he was an excellent closer for the White Sox. Flat out he converted saves at a high level. Whether I bet on him being able to maintain that balancing act, maybe not - but at $5M this was a great use of resources for the Twins.
    1 point
  40. I think Collins is a much better catcher than Yermin
    1 point
  41. So we’re not going to add more depth to the rotation than. Great! JR being JR as always.
    1 point
  42. You are correct. We had that last year with EE and it completely destroys the offense.🙂
    1 point
  43. Would giving Bauer 35 million for 1 year or 2/70 or something have a major negative impact on the clubhouse?
    1 point
  44. Just dawned on me: let’s assume for a minute that the “it’s a business” argument holds water. If that’s the case, and a decade ago you were top ten payroll and now you’re middle of the pack, what does that say about the way you managed your “business” relative to your competitors?
    1 point
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