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It's getting kind of depressing in here so I wanted to highlight some bright spots in the org. Crochet is a building block. 31 Ks in 4 starts isnt a fluke. We all knew this one. If Andrew Vaughn was hitting in the way Gavin Sheets is hitting .270/.391/.541 we would be pumped. Gavin is only a year older than Vaughn so just pretend they switched bodies. Nastrini looked awesome today, He didnt have the best results in AAA, but 13ks in 7 innings is something Colson Montgomery homered in two of his last three games. Colson's pop is on the top of my watch list this year. We will see what Cannon does tomorrow but hes had a solid showing in AAA so far (2.79 ERA over 9.2 innings) Brooks Baldwin was an 80 Grade name and is a 23 year old in AA with a .985 OPS in 26 ABs and has more BBs than SOs. Hes a 2022 12th rounder who had an .800 OPS across A ball last year Wilfred Veras is a 21 year old at AA Birmingham with a .941 OPS in 34 ABs. He hasn't taken a walk yet but is 12 for 20 with 2 homers when he puts the bat on the ball. Edgar Quero (also in AA) has 4 homers already this year in 25 ABs. Hes a catcher that was acquired in the Gio/Reylo trade. Hes 21 years old and is a legit top 50-100 prospect that is MASHING. Plus he's Cuban which is fun. Ky Bush was acquired with Quero and had a very solid start to open the year in AA (5IP 1 ER 7K) Drew Thorpe who was a huge part of the Cease return has dominated in AA. He's a 23 year old 2022 draftee that has a .82 ERA in 11 innings with 15Ks to 2 walks. Him and Schultz (getting to him later) are the two most important pitching propsects and they are dealing. Jairo Iriarte (22 years old) was also acquired in the Cease trade and has also been dominant in AA. He hasn't given up an earned run in 8 innings and has struck out 11. Last years first rounder Jacob Gonzalez is about the only guy hitting in Winston Salem (A+) but he's the most important by far. Hes slashed .281/.410.438 in 39 PAs. He also has 6 BBs to 5ks. I imagine he'll work his way up to AA by the end of the year. Noah Schultz is a guy. He's had 17 ks and 2 bbs in 8IP in A ball. The 4.50 ERA is deceptive and I think he'll work his way up faster than Gonzalez. 2023 6th Round Lucas Gordon has dominated in Kannapolis so far this year. In two starts he has 16ks and 3bbs in 11IP. He was dominant last year but the walk rate was way too high. If he continues on this path he'll be a legit prospect. A college pitcher should probably be succeeding in A ball but hes a lefty that generates K's and that always plays. He's not a Fangraphs top 30 guy and his South Side Sox prospect #59 due to bullpen risk/lack of upside but hes doing everything that can be asked of him so far. Pitching wise the Sox systems future could be a lot worse than Crochet/Nastrini/Cannon/Shultz/Thorpe/Iriarte/Bush. Hitting wise Colson is coming around and Quero is a rising prospect. If Gonzalez keeps hitting he'll be grouped with those two before the end of summer. This is far from an exhaustive list of quality propsects the sox have but some guys have had rough starts or are hurt to start the year,

No. Jerry and Rick owe Ricky Renteria an apology

Not even joking here. Soxtalk RIPPED Tony to shreds for telling players not to hustle all the time. Look at what has happened to our team for hustling to first. Yoan went down with a terrible looking injury. Eloy went down running to first, AGAIN. Robert tore his hip flexor running to first, then pulled it again recently while rounding first. Tony knew his personnel. He knew that he had a bunch of players made of glass. He got demolished for it, but he was right. You can't have any of the "big 3" hustling at this point. They are getting destroyed from it. I know Soxtalk's MO is "blame Tony and Pedro for everything", but Tony was correct here.

They're going to embarrass themselves whether you want them to or not, so might as well enjoy the ride.

Murderer's Row

I got bad news for you…

Your Cubs fan obsession is disturbing and ridiculous. Cubs fans aren’t the reason this White Sox team is historically bad. Jerry Reinsdorf is the reason. At least place your hate on the correct target. This franchise is already diminished due to its owner and is the laughingstock of baseball.

At least he'll be back for the playoffs.

Im finding myself wanting the Sox to lose in embarrassing fashion day in and day out. I would be even happier if they break some records along the way. Worst record is still on the table, the shutout record, worst OPS record, etc.. I consider myself a diehard fan, but what kind of fan wants their team to fail miserably? We can only draft 10th next year so why am i feeling this way? I dont quite know what to think anymore. does anyone else feel this way?

Lol, yeah that 246 PA sample is surely enough to write him off for good! Your complete flip flop from hating every move the Sox make to now championing every move is quite comical.

SOUTH SIDE STAND UP!!! Not too quickly though, don't want to pull an adductor.

Cause many of us remember when the team was ranked first — built off of external trades and a few high draft picks — but they couldn't develop any supplemental pieces to support that talent and that talent never really put it all together, with players unable to stay healthy or keeping their same strengths and weaknesses that they had in the minor leagues. And now the guy in charge of developing the minor league system back then is in charge of the whole operation.

Nastrini now 3rd on the team in WAR. I made that up but probably true.

“Like most people, you’d like to win ball games, so it’s disappointing when we don’t get wins, but from a big-picture standpoint I want to feel like we’re on the right track.” -- Chris Getz. 😆

I picked that because it's the dumbest option. Until proven otherwise, I predict they pick the dumbest option.

I mean yes, this to. Dude exacerbated the injury by running in a straight line. Alright anyway I can't help it, meathead mode: football players: get hit by 260 lb men going 20 mph, get ankle ripped off, back in 2 weeks. Basketball players: sharp cuts, sudden acceleration, constant jumping and contact with 200-260lb giants. Baseball players: have to run in a straight line 4 times a day. Body falls apart and die.

LOOK HOW MAD IM NOT!!!!!

agreed. it’s a terrible situation. apathetic to antagonistic fanbase, awful product and replacing a guy who was respected and let go for bad reasons. I’ll cut him some slack. he’s just a young guy trying to make the most of his big break.

Getting anything for Bummer is a win. He fucking sucks.

Time to reuse this.

Hey asshole: I wrote my thesis on Minnie Minoso, watch the Dash every time they come to Brooklyn, bought my dad artwork of Aparicio, own jerseys and hat for three of their minor league teams in addition to the Sox swag that makes up my wardrobe and I'll be dead before I root for the team that failed my grandfather before he died (my mom's side was Cubs fans, she converted). Despite all that, I want the owner who's stomped on my fandom, his lackey GM and braindead manager to get their just desserts. But you go back to pissing on what could be the best thing for the Sox in decades in the form of a new stadium because you've got some vendetta against dirt.

Thanks for posting this. He’s going to figure out his s%*# almost immediately now.

I you are a cub fan go ahead. Nothing positive comes from losing...nothing. You break the spirit of the players and the fans and diminish the franchise in every way imaginable. That is why I don't trust or respect the opinions of those who relish in WSox losses.

I continue to watch and cheer them on, but part of me does want us to lose 120+ games and force Jerry to realize he has destroyed this franchise with his incompetence as owner.

For some reason Rodriguez didn't play for us to start the year but almost immediately started playing for the Phillies organization. So far this year in AA; 6/21 (.286), .423 OBP, .899 OPS, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 2 SB Glad we gave him up to keep Shaw on the roster for an extra week

I thought Steve Stone got really fat for a second, had to do a double take.

getz saying he doesn’t like the team, then going out and assembling a much worse team makes a lot of sense when you consider jr’s disdain for his fanbase. probably why Getz was hired.

Jerry would rather hire people he knows and lose 120 games than hire people he doesn't know and win 100.

Feel sorry for Yoan. I know there is this idea that he doesn't work hard - but you don't become that good and smooth of a defender in baseball without putting in a lot of work. This stinks.

If you told me in Spring Training 3 Sox players would be injured in the first 10 games, I would have guessed Eloy, Robert, and Moncada.

This is an internet message board for a sports team that went from title contender to worst team in the league faster than most could process. I don’t understand how you continue to be surprised and/or bothered that the majority of the discussion is negative.

He's panicking. He has a plan, but as soon as he got hit in the mouth he started flailing for anything and everything. What he did over the winter made sense if he was trying not to rush people, but him releasing prospects to sign flotsam only to release them a week later is some OOTP crap. He really is acting like he isn't capable of doing this job.

When apathy and the weight of losing piles on, it can absolutely get worse. Coaches that say things like "eventually it's going to have to turn around" are coaches that have ZERO answers.

The good news....if you bet $100 on Sheets getting an rbi today, you've won $185. The bad news....if you are betting on the White Sox at all, get some help....1-800-GAMBLER

No. Burn it to the ground 🔥

Pedro should pull a Costanza and do the opposite of every instinct he has. Because he's wrong every. Single. Time.

This team is one of the worse offensive teams ever assembled in MLB. Shame on KW/Hahn/Getz,/JR.

Getz pissed away money on players this offseason that clearly were done

I interpret that as "good players cost money that I'm not allowed to spend"

m&m guy can be anywhere in the world right now and he's still here watching this. Amazing

I am confused as to who is this 1B that a short term moderately successful Gavin Sheets has you afraid of blocking. I have to say that panicking about Gavin Sheets being good enough to block someone is a new level of Sox fan achievement I did not expect to see this year.

This is going on 4 years of this message board debating whether it's the players faults, trainers faults, coaches fault, whether guys are too muscular, etc. etc. etc. I'm just ready to start with a whole new group of dudes.

Grifol's comments before the game are even more idiotic now. You had the guy playing through an injury, and it cost him the season.

A complete tear. So he def felt a rip and it was possibly even heard by the others around him. f*** people saying he is weak or soft. You ever rip a muscle off a bone? Whatever, he got 100 million for his troubles so I ain't gonna feel sorry for him, but he ain't soft whatever else. I'm shocked he walked off with a grade 3 tear. It sucks losing a possible asset but for this season means little if anything. I will miss watching him play well tho.

Only if new ownership arrives there is a massive change over in the front office and millions and millions of dollars are spent on quality players will this happen.

It starts at the top with the worst owner in MLB.

Under no circumstances does any White Sox fan owe TLR ANYTHING. But I'm sure he appreciates you felating him, Ron.