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Frustrating is a perfect word to describe this season. The most frustrating part of it is, like Ozzie said, if the Sox had played better against Cleveland, Baltimore, and KC they'd be in first place. The 25-5 run was awesome. The first two months of the season sucked. Paul Konerko has been incredible. Juan Pierre has been a good lead-off guy (after a bad start). Omar has been a pleasant surprise. Overall, though, I just can't get past the fact that they went into the season expecting so much out of Jones and Kotsay in the DH spot. I know that hasn't been the biggest problem, but it hasn't helped. Everything clicked together for about 30-35 games. We need that to happen again for the last 32 games. Hopefully Manny can help.

I expect Manny to play hard and do some damage at the plate. With only 32 games left and the change of scenery, I wouldn't expect him to quit on the team. I'm not against this move at all, and I hope he helps the Sox take over the AL Central. If, however, he does shut down and act like a bum, many of us (myself included) will be embarrassed about sticking up for the move.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 29, 2010 -> 09:00 PM) What are the random numbers and one letter for? Positions for the numbers, but the B threw me, too. Beast?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 29, 2010 -> 07:13 PM) The Sox continue to be predictable. Predictable won't cut it. Win 2 of 3 vs the O's then lose 2 of 3 at home to New York. They blow a good starting performance today. Hope the team gets hot again. Going 3-3 vs. New York and the O's at home isn't very good when you are trying to make up ground. I hoped they would go 4-2, but I am not surprised by the 3-3. Sweeping the O's would have made losing 2 of 3 to the Yanks more tolerable. At least we have the Mariners to thank for coming through today.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 29, 2010 -> 08:50 PM) I suppose it's a possibility: BNightengale #mlb #dodgers #whitesox No matter what Dodgers decide, Manny has played final game for Dodgers. He may be in Cleveland in time for Sox game. about 1 hour ago via web and Heyman: SI_JonHeyman manny is gone, as la is done with him. appears to be pure waiver claim, where chisox just pay his salary. 13 minutes ago via web Looks like Jon Gilmore will be sticking around. I have no problem with that.

Coming out of this series only down 4.5 games is okay. Now let's hope Manny and maybe a reliever are on their way to the Sox.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 29, 2010 -> 02:21 PM) Really, there's very little downside for the Sox. At $40 a ticket, covering that $4 million would take an extra 10,000 in ticket sales. Play around with the numbers a bit, but keep it a little closer and get the publicity and it's going to pay for itself. True. I just hope we hear something soon.

Even if the Sox lose today's game and the Twins win and the Sox are 5.5 games back, I still want to see Manny here. Until the Sox are mathematically eliminated, they should do whatever they can to make themselves better. I've said this before, whoever is eliminated (Twins or Sox), I don't think it'll be until the last week of the season.

Big trouble for the bullpen. I'm hoping KW has a claim on someone.

I'm getting nervous now. I have a feeling the trade may not happen. Worse, I'm not sure KW will make any moves. Another arm for the bullpen would be nice right about now.

I honestly feel that the Sox are missing just a piece or two to be a contender for the whole thing. As the team is now, they might be able to catch up the Twins. With Manny, the chances are better, and they could even make it deep into the playoffs. I just look back at the 2005 team and wonder what it had that this team doesn't. I'm not saying it's the DH thing...that's only part of it. Hopefully Manny can make a big difference, because I think that's what the Sox need.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 03:33 PM) I thought longshot was serious and you as well. my bad. In all seriousness, Greg, I like your posts. You certainly do state your opinion and generate some good discussions.

QUOTE (beckham15 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 03:30 PM) kotsay is a lifer...we all just need to accept that....he isnt going anywhere till after the season is over If even then...

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 03:06 PM) It's shallow and stupid to try to justify his acquisition by the questions you ask. In answer to your questions. Yes, I've sped while driving and had some tickets. No I've not fudged a tax return, ever. Yes I've jaywalked. What the f*** does that have to do with this? We can disagree on his character but cheating is wrong. Enough with the "stupid". I wasn't trying to pick a fight, Greg. My point was that you say any and all cheating to wrong. Longshot's post was meant to be partly funny and...aw forget it. It's not worth it.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 03:04 PM) If Manny is beyond criticism, why did somebody say Farmer always blasts him? My position is not unique. I'd prefer to not have the bum on my team. I personally would want to boo him in his first plate appearance then cheer for him because he is only one player on a team. I don't like what he stands for. He flaunts his me-first attitude more than most players. Frank Thomas, Paul Konerko equal great hitters and class. Manny? Great hitter and a bum. That's true. Hopefully, the Sox are winning if and when he's playing here and we won't see this side of him.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 03:00 PM) I'm not trying to prove anything. He pissed me off when he said he condones doing everything illegal as long as winning results. I was responding to his disgusting post. Stupid may not be the right word. I'll say disgusting, appalling, disgraceful instead of stupid, cause you are right, he may help us win. One question, Greg: Are you saying you've never sped while driving, fudged some numbers on a tax return, jaywalked? Longshot's post was a bit inflammatory, but I got the point. How many guys do you think were on steroids before the testing became so prominent? I would imagine a lot more than we might think.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 02:57 PM) So young people like cheaters? What's that all about? Young people have no morals or something? I don't get the criticism. Again, I guess I feel honored people know more about my posts than I do. I can't tell you about anybody's posts and you all know what I post? I guess I'm that influential. Very cool. You missed the content of the "old people" post. As far as your posts, let's just say they are memorable.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 02:52 PM) Oh. I didn't know that. I'll just assume it's a joke, then. I mean I'll feel dirty while cheering for Manny I guess, if we win it all, but it's still wrong to acquire this guy IMO. Maybe this will be good for me and help me be less a Sox/sports fanatic. My team hasn't done something this stupid in a long time. Regardless of how you feel about Manny (I have no problem with him playing here for a month), acquiring the guy is not a "stupid" move. At worst it's a greedy move. And I'm fine with that. If he comes here and helps, great. If he comes here and tanks, oh well. KW wants to win another World Series.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 02:47 PM) I hope some people think long and hard before making such posts iike this. People, don't out yourselves as people who condone cheating and all that. Don't make me lose faith in humanity more than I have. My god. Think before you post. CHEATING IS WRONG!!! You're losing it, Greg. Take a deep breath.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 02:46 PM) Vince's quote was not as harsh as the inane comment he posted. Vince's is considered in the true spirit of competition. You bleed to win! This is a disgraceful day in White Sox history to acquire this guy. Really? So, if the Sox win the division and go onto the playoffs and do well and maybe win the whole thing...and Manny had a hand in it, you would not be happy?

Hopefully the trade rumor is true, and Manny will be here Sunday. As far as Lilly, it would be funny if the Cubs claimed him.

QUOTE (chisox2334 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 01:46 PM) kenny is god of waivers??? having team in second place and then bad finish doesn't make you gods lol. A lot teams last year wouldn't even touch Rios contract But look at Rios now. KW took a chance and it paid off.

I would think a deal has been at least discussed if not agreed upon via a "handshake". Let's hope it gets done quickly and Manny is playing soon. I'd love to see him this weekend, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's not until early next week.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 12:59 PM) It could be worse the Sox could have gotten Lance Berkman. True. The Yankees got screwed there...serves them right!

One has to wonder if the Sox even placed a claim on Manny. All this talk might be a moot point...