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7 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I am not even certain I'd rather have Ozuna than Vaughn this year. Pass. 

He has had 2 awesome years, and many above average years. He seems to be overrated here imo.

Sooooo what's your point?

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Ozuna has been linked to STL and ATL, but with no DH, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Would they be 1 year deals? 

I don't think STL /ATL would dare sign Ozuna long term with no indication of a Universal DH. 

Would imagine a smaller $$$ but longer deal would net the White sox Ozuna.

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1 minute ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

That he's not worth a giant contract and trading away Vaughn.

He is if you're getting a controllable front of the rotation type arm in a trade for Vaughn to go along with Ozuna. 

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Just now, manbearpuig said:

He is if you're getting a controllable front of the rotation type arm in a trade for Vaughn to go along with Ozuna. 

I'd rather keep Vaughn and use the money spend on Ozuna for a SP dump/sign

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2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

That he's not worth a giant contract and trading away Vaughn.

Didn’t say we needed to trade vaughn

 

why not have both? If ozuna falls into our lap...

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3 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said:

Didn’t say we needed to trade vaughn

 

why not have both? If ozuna falls into our lap...

Vaughn won't stay in the minors for 2 years (abreu's contract up).

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5 minutes ago, manbearpuig said:

He is if you're getting a controllable front of the rotation type arm in a trade for Vaughn to go along with Ozuna. 

Yeah if I could get a front line starter, Andrew Vaughn is at the top of my list of our top prospects I would be wiling to deal.  The Sox offense is loaded, and we have a lot of other 1B/DH types behind him, as well as that Abreu guy in front of him.  It isn't hard to see a scenario where they have Eloy going to DH a year or two down the road.

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with how young Vaughn is, I can't believe that they aren't trying to get him to learn other positions.  maybe they are? idk

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5 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said:

with how young Vaughn is, I can't believe that they aren't trying to get him to learn other positions.  maybe they are? idk

I thought they put him in RF last year when in Schaumburg.

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3 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

I thought they put him in RF last year when in Schaumburg.

They worked him there a little bit but I really get the impression it’s just not going to end well if they try long term.

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12 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Vaughn won't stay in the minors for 2 years (abreu's contract up).

No reason for him to do that either.

CWS need depth at the majors. He will get a ton of playing time even with Ozuna there. And this way, he will be eased in.

Ozuna can also play RF for a handful of games and sub Engel in late. 

 

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Just now, iWiN4PreP said:

No reason for him to do that either.

CWS need depth at the majors. He will get a ton of playing time even with Ozuna there. And this way, he will be eased in.

Ozuna can also play RF for a handful of games and sub Engel in late. 

 

Yeah, no.

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1 hour ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I'd rather keep Vaughn and use the money spend on Ozuna for a SP dump/sign

Darren Wolfson has quite a few tweets today saying Twins have discussed Ozuna. He says they’re going to add a hitter, starter and reliever still.

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4 hours ago, BrianAnderson said:

These next two weeks are going to be a flurry of signings. Here are a few names I'd like the Sox to consider whether it be on a minor league deal or a flier/small Major league deal.

 

Tyler Flowers - I'm probably more comfortable than most to go in with Collins & Yermin, but seems like a natural fit if we go FA route

Marwin Gonzalez - probably not a whole ton left in the tank - but fills a versatility role for cheap. One thing to note is his best of best years were during the cheating scandal I believe. So you're likely just getting a .250ba with a dozen homers. very avg. replaceable type guy, but can move around the field. id rather keep what we have than chase him.

Villar - Not sure if he really has a role, but has played CF a few times over the year, 2b, DH, SS, etc. some versatility there and can swipe 30-40 bags. Don't know larussa's past on stealing - old school guy = steals? maybe. like marwin just a guy who can plug in a few spots and also has some pop. doubt his price and want to play everyday can be met with us, so long shot of a fit here.

Cespedes - call me crazy - and this is a hunch - i think he signs a minor league deal with some incentives and is w the Sox in ST. I can see him wanting to play with his brother & this gives him an opportunity to do so during spring training. give him the option to opt out before the season starts. i also think he has at least a glimmer of an opening to DH for the Sox for a month or two - something I'm not sure he's going to find elsewhere either. I dont think people are knocking down his doors. Maybe you find lightning in a bottle. He'll be 35 but last time he really even played half a season was back in 2017. ST deal, 1 year, $1mm if he makes the roster. Can tie some incentives to it just in case he's good again or healthy. 

Shin Soo Choo - this one makes a ton of sense to me. lefty bat, even at 36 back in 2019 he batted .265 with an obp of .377 and ops of .826 - hit 24 homers, stole 15 bases. Wouldn't be surprised if you can get him on a deal like cespedes - just a year deal, $1-2mm. He can plug into rf and left field in a pinch, not well, but enough to hold down the fort for a few games if forced into action.

Scooter Gennett - guy fell of the face of the earth sitting out last year. I'd explore.

Rich Hill - been a huge fan of his - can bounce around starting and bullpen easily.

Cole Hamels - not too far removed from earning that 1yr 18mm deal. can see him going for 6-8mm. know we explored him in the past. would be open to it

 

Some interesting thoughts.

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1 hour ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

Meh, SP is pricey! Archer was badddddddddd last 2 years

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Bauer and Ozuna really need to sign somewhere to put me out of my misery... 

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17 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said:

Bauer and Ozuna really need to sign somewhere to put me out of my misery... 

I have faith in you, you will find a way.

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4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I have faith in you, you will find a way.

TY, but every night I dream of a starry Trevor  Bauer leading us through the season with complete game shut out after complete game shut out and his twitter account becomes my #1 place to find news and I go and buy a Trevor Bauer jersey and attend as many Bauer starts as possible and live happily ever after

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2 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

Rays are gonna tell Archer to ditch the sinker similar to what they did with Glasnow. Watch Archer be very good this season.

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If this loosely means "wait until June and then we'll starting allowing reduced capacity", I could live with that.

 

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