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I'm really beginning to dislike that Jeff Vuckavich guy.

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Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

And I get he was struggling there. I just dont see how he improves if he never works through anything. Tough spot in general.

Win now mode. WS expectations with TLR.  Development goes to the backburner.

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1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

He shouldn’t have completely fallen apart.  Nobody can trust him, just like Reynaldo.

He did retire 7 or 8 in a row I believe.

I get why he made the decision but at 80 pitches I would’ve let him go after the next batter.

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Just now, Marqhead said:

I actually do as well. Give him a little more time with still a three run lead. 

The walks are bad and the whip near two isn't great but the guy had given up 3 hits. I just dont like it at all. He'll never grow as a pitcher without getting the chance to work through some jams. This rangers team is bad, and there was room to let him work through this imo

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4 minutes ago, Capn12 said:

I don't know if you guys know about Nick Solak.....

...is that the guy from Chicago?

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1 minute ago, wegner said:

I'm really beginning to dislike that Jeff Vuckavich guy.

More than Ursula and Alex Snelius reads?  At least they have a cool backstory...

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2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Win now mode. WS expectations with TLR.  Development goes to the backburner.

Going to the pen consistently in the 4th inning is definitely not the trajectory for "win now" mode, especially against bad teams. 

Edited by RagahRagah

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Just now, GermanSoxFan said:

yeah I would have at least face him the bottom of the order here.

I understand, just would rather have this than letting him allow it to get any closer. I would love to see him go the minors and get confidence he can consistently get guys out.  It’s been a long time since that has happened, as he was struggling big time even before getting called up.

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Just now, caulfield12 said:

Win now mode. WS expectations with TLR.  Development goes to the backburner.

They have a 3 run lead vs a terrible team that's already in their bullpen. This was a prime chance to let him work through it 

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1 minute ago, wegner said:

...is that the guy from Chicago?

Oh, you've heard?

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3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

He shouldn’t have completely fallen apart.  Nobody can trust him, just like Reynaldo.

He gave up two runs. “completely fallen apart“ GMAB.

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Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

The walks are bad and the whip near two isn't great but the guy had given up 3 hits. I just dont like it at all. He'll never grow as a pitcher without getting the chance to work through some jams. This rangers team is bad, and there was room to let him work through this imo

Yes, it was nearing the bottom of their lineup...there’s that primary argument for more rope to be extended.

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Just now, caulfield12 said:

More than Ursula and Alex Snelius reads?  At least they have a cool backstory...

I will never have any loving memories for Jeff

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Especially considering the White Sox are far from done scoring.

I would’ve let him fight through it a little more.

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Cease and Dunning were polar opposites this game.  Cease couldn’t throw strikes, and Dunning threw too many over the plate.

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1 minute ago, Capn12 said:

Oh, you've heard?

And will again....and again.....

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Youre basically telling the kid if he ever gets in trouble he's done. Is what it is. I think we're gonna score about 8+ tonight so it wouldn't have mattered. Oh well.

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2 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said:

He gave up two runs. “completely fallen apart“ GMAB.

In the comparison to how he was going before...we all know that when Cease loses it, he REALLY loses it.

TLR had pretty much the sane/same reaction.  Suddenly it’s a 1-2 run game before your snack break is over.

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TA is such a great guy at the top of the lineup, when he is right.

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3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

The walks are bad and the whip near two isn't great but the guy had given up 3 hits. I just dont like it at all. He'll never grow as a pitcher without getting the chance to work through some jams. This rangers team is bad, and there was room to let him work through this imo

That's a good take Ray.  Didn't Garland only grow after Ozzie let him go longer in games or am I misremembering?

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