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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 17, 2008 -> 10:35 AM)
I could be wrong, but I think if you offer someone arb and they accept, you can't trade them for a while. I don't know if many teams want Cabrera at $11 -$12 million anyway.

You're right, but he won't take arbitration when he can easily sign a multi-year deal elsewhere. His ego is too high to admit he's not worth a multi-year deal. At 34 (right?), this is probably his last chance at a multi-year deal anyway.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 17, 2008 -> 11:37 AM)
You're right, but he won't take arbitration when he can easily sign a multi-year deal elsewhere. His ego is too high to admit he's not worth a multi-year deal. At 34 (right?), this is probably his last chance at a multi-year deal anyway.

If he's offered $6-8 million a year for 2 or 3 years, he may jump at the arb offer believing the market and economic conditions could be better next year. He is definitely in the group of guys who are going to get squeezed this off season. The top 4 or 5 guys won't be affected. If they don't offer him arb we know they really didn't like him very much.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 17, 2008 -> 10:42 AM)
If he's offered $6-8 million a year for 2 or 3 years, he may jump at the arb offer believing the market and economic conditions could be better next year. He is definitely in the group of guys who are going to get squeezed this off season. The top 4 or 5 guys won't be affected. If they don't offer him arb we know they really didn't like him very much.

They'll offer him arbitration. KW has been open about the "value" of Cabrera even if he doesn't re-sign.

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If Detroit is willing to trade for Lugo (albeit dumping a bad contract in the process), some team will give Cabrera a good enough offer so the Sox will have to offer him arbitration I would have thought.

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QUOTE (DBAHO @ Nov 17, 2008 -> 12:39 PM)
If Detroit is willing to trade for Lugo (albeit dumping a bad contract in the process), some team will give Cabrera a good enough offer so the Sox will have to offer him arbitration I would have thought.

But they are giving up a bad contract in exchange. I don't think Detroit is going to be in any position to add money.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 17, 2008 -> 12:46 PM)
But they are giving up a bad contract in exchange. I don't think Detroit is going to be in any position to add money.

I was just using Detroit as an example though.

 

If Lugo is traded to them, that's 1 less SS option on the market thru FA or a trade though, which is probably a good thing from OC's perspective.

 

I imagine he may wait until Furcal signs with somebody also.

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Well if Cabrera were nice enough to sign a deal before December 1st we won't have to worry about offering him arbitration, we'd receive the Type A compensation regardless.

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Wow the Cubs REALLY didn't want him back, or they are on some very tight budget restraints. I'm surprised they didn't even offer him arbitration.

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The Cubs dump enormous sums of money on guys like Soriano, Dempster, etc., and when the time comes to wind up with 2 additional draft picks, they don't have the money to gamble any more.

 

That my friends is how you dismantle a franchise.

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QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 1, 2008 -> 09:56 PM)
Wow the Cubs REALLY didn't want him back, or they are on some very tight budget restraints. I'm surprised they didn't even offer him arbitration.

Cubs fans are pissed. The loser here is Kevin Gregg, he didn't ask to be one of the reasons for Wood's depature. He's going to get his ass handed to him by an unfavorable Wrigley crowd.

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QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 1, 2008 -> 06:56 PM)
Wow the Cubs REALLY didn't want him back, or they are on some very tight budget restraints. I'm surprised they didn't even offer him arbitration.

It has to be budget constraints. If he were to for some reason accept arbitration, what do you think they could get for him in the trade market, esp. if they tossed in a couple million of his deal?

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QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 1, 2008 -> 08:58 PM)
Cubs fans are pissed. The loser here is Kevin Gregg, he didn't ask to be one of the reasons for Wood's depature. He's going to get his ass handed to him by an unfavorable Wrigley crowd.

 

Indeed. Well when you give all of your players backloaded contracts (and that really starts to come home to roost in 2009 and 2010 for the blue b****es), have a lot of veterans, are in the midst of a bad economy, and can't sell the team, I guess moves that look silly like this one are needed to be able to write the paychecks.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 1, 2008 -> 08:58 PM)
It has to be budget constraints. If he were to for some reason accept arbitration, what do you think they could get for him in the trade market, esp. if they tossed in a couple million of his deal?

 

He would have been a 10 and 5 if he had stayed with the Cubs, I know that, which is probably part of the problem they had.

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If a few pieces fall into place KW could end up closing for us next year. We'd need to dump salary a la Vasquez and Dye and then move Bobby.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 09:30 AM)
Knowing the Cubs, I wonder if this is an injury red-flag going up?

If the Cubs had a clue about that they wouldn't have kept Wood/Prior as long as they did.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 11:30 AM)
Knowing the Cubs, I wonder if this is an injury red-flag going up?

Its Kerry Wood. He lives in a sea of injury red flags.

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Now that I've realized Wood wasn't offered arbitration, I wouldn't be opposed to adding him to the bullpen. But, he'll want too much money and too long of a deal than we'd be willing to pay for an very injury-prone pitcher. If he came somewhat reasonable and we trade Jenks, it would definitely be worth looking into. Though, his injury history really scares me.

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