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Jon Gruden is a moron.

I don't get this game, but this stat line for Lopez really stands out. 6 IP, 3 BB, 2 H, 10 Ks. Remember how we were talking about how his ERA was dramatically better than his peripherals in part because of too many walks and too few Ks? Even ignoring the shutout part, those Ks really look good.

Ditto We as white Sox fans expect little, and this organization gives us less.

I agree with all of this, which is exactly why the entire front office needs to be fired. Every. Fucking. Last One. Of. Them.

Yoan Moncada= Strike out king with less WAR on the year than David Bote Lucas Giolito= xFIP of 5.48. That is no bueno. Reynaldo Lopez=xFIP of 5.42. Not as bad as Giolito but still no bueno Michael Kopech= In the infirmary for the foreseeable future Luis Robert= No homers so far in full season minor league play and is built like the tin man. Nick Madrigal= No dingers or triples in 43 minor league games Jake Burger= Probably retore his achilles answering the door for his Dominoes Pizza delivery Carson Fulmer= Soon to be pursuing opportunities on the traveling swim meet circuit as a goggle salesman. Letting Rick Hahn and company architect this rebuild was a terrible decision. Where is the light at the end of the tunnel?

Long time reader and lurker here. There is so much doom and gloom lately with the prospect aspect of the rebuild. I'm still optimistic about the teams future though. We have lots of money to spend to help this team compete in the near future. Was it ever really realistic to expect the entire starting rotation to be all studs on rookie contracts? I feel like the only way the rebuild is actually an epic fail is if this team doesn't go out and spend as promised. I know the ultimate goal is to win a world series, but this team can still at least be competitive in our garbage division by adding a few guys and then have a shot at a world series if some of the prospects turn out to be very good major leaguers. Why not compete next year? You don't even need to spend and get Harper or Machado, sign Donaldson+Brantley+a legit bullpen arm instead. Lets get back to being an ok team through free agency and then see if the farm system can turn us into a very good team the next few years.

It wasn’t like he was terrible, but he had some open guys and nerves got to him. He’s not experienced and still developing. Does he suck, maybe he will, but this game isn’t proof of his long term success or suckiness. Lets cool the hot takes and see see how the season plays out. I still think by end of year we will all feel very good about franchises future.

Only the biggest Bears halftime lead in GB in 70 years.

The Smith sack then Mack pick 6 was probably the best defensive sequence I’ve seen as a Bears fan.

Nagy should just retire at halftime. It is really possible that this is the height of his career in Chicago.

Right now, the Bears look like a lock to win the Super Bowl.

As if that makes that much of a difference. As an organization, we still can't pick and develop draft choices nearly as well as most of the successful teams in MLB. As an example, of our 5 starting pitchers, only one (Rodon) was a draft pick. We had to trade to get the others, relying on teams who knew what they were doing in the MLB Draft.

great loss Lopez DOMINATED Moncada 2/3

Well I like what I see in the Sox A system.

Why do so many of our hitters persist in swinging on pitches outside the strike zone?

There’s one

Nice k of ohtani

Just because Kopech is out doesn't mean the tank is back on. The Sox were playing good ball before the call-up and in games Kopech didn't pitch.

If it isn't, trading Rodon won't accelerate the rebuild, and will only make things worse.

Or Alen Hanson and Edwin Jackson, apparently.

I don't agree with this. There was the one called third strike today. Other than that, over the past month or so, it has barely happened relative to May/June

I like signing Corbin this year and Arenado next year. I LOVE signing Corbin AND Harper this year and then of course Arenado the following year

No one likes a bully.

Jake Burger will not be ready for another 2 years. At best he comes back in June and will at least a year and half of seasoning. That is "if" he is still able to play 3rd base which was a concern even before the multiple achilies tears.

The White Sox used a first round pick on a third baseman in the 2017 draft. I think they will just let Yolmer play there every day until Burger is ready. Also, I don't see the White Sox adding any significant payroll this offseason. Hell, they might even shed payroll by nontendering Avi and trading Abreau and Rondon. It might be time to embrace the tank for another 2 or 3 years.

I was the person who you are referring to and the amount was 2/48 million dollars which would equate to 24 million a year. The point being is that we probably have about 40 million dollars committed to next year which is probably 100 million dollars less than if they were competitive. I would rather have the White Sox try to use the room to sign higher average annual value but with lower years attached. It does not make me sleep better watching Yolmer Sanchez play third base while Jerry is making an extra 100 million dollars on the year because the White Sox are not investing in the team. Yes, that is alot per season but overall the dollar amount does not come with much long term risk. Donaldson was a 5 WAR player 2017, if he was healthy this year he would be paid in excess of 150 million dollars. He is not so it might be a good opportunity to improve the team. And if he is healthy for the first half of the year, you could easily flip him for young talent.

As sure as the sun rises every morning, Iowa State still sucks at football.

Jon Lester = 1.0 WAR Jose Quintana = 1.1 WAR What’s your point?

The rebuild is most certainly not on track. It is careening and wobbling like a 50 cent carnival ride at the old Kiddieland in Melrose Park.

Enough of the excuses. This team was expected to be ready to get after it in 2020. Maybe Rick Hahn and company are in over their heads and not the right guys for the job?

Posting on a board is for enjoyment and information. It is not a legal nor ethical right. Those countries have a few more issues than posting on a privately held website. We are going back to ad absurdum discussions again.

What is the difference, 3 or 10, let me know what difference maker we have drafted in the last 3 years under Nick hostetler and this front office, unfortunately to this point none.

Going to be very quick because I’m home on leave for the weekend, but I really don’t share the pessimism for 2019. Next year was more about Moncada/Anderson/Rodon/Giolito/ Lopez making progress. Kopech was a hell of a nice topper, but if those other guys didn’t progress as expected, it was going to be meaningless. Let’s sign a few FAs, call up Eloy two weeks in, and win 86 games and shoot for the second WC. Be ready to dominate in 2020 when Kopech returns and Cease, Madrigal and others join us. Keep your heads up.

This Kopech news has hit me hard, but the worst part without question is having to endure Tommy Longo trying to use this as part of his agenda. Rick Hahn did NOT cause the tear in Kopech’s UCL and using that against him is just plain trolling.

Quite frankly, I blame TWTW.

That is what I figured. He would have kept pitching in Charlotte so you figure the same thing was going to happen. I think this injury was pretty pretty much unavoidable. Kopech was already damaged goods in all likelihood when he was called up. And none of us had a clue, so hard to blame the White Sox. And he has typical soreness. Hard to blame him. It just happens and it sucks.

Unfortunately, I think you're right. And that's scary.

Great analysis, but we have no one in our upper management and scouting in the major or minor leagues that comes close to the cubs and astros, no one.