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  1. I absolutely agree! Escobar or Wendle would have been great pickups. I would have preferred Wendle and I’m still hopeful that they’ll address second base adequately. I also wouldn’t have been completely against trading Madrigal for the right type of player. My preference would have been to upgrade the starting rotation if he was going to be moved. Bottom line is it was about the worst utilization of using him as an asset and we’ll see where things are in March.
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  2. I get the sentiment, but I still believe this but it requires the Sox to like, try. Escobar and Wendle weren’t just solid replacements, they improved LH balance and defense and were reasonable deals. Yeah if Sox don’t get any reasonable additions eventually there are not any. And the other thing about that sentiment - they were all about sending out Madrigal for good additions, and not someone for 3 months shipped out for salary relief.
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  4. What the fuck does all of this mean
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  5. Anyone who could make wearing a helmet in the field look cool deserves to be in the HOF for that alone.
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  6. Wow. How the hell is Dick Allen not a Hall of Famer? Anyhoo, psyched for Minnie and Tony Olivia. Cuban connection
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  7. Judge KKK Landis would have a solid base of support here on Soxtalk, for multiple reasons.
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  8. Is it $30 million in addition to Craig Kimbrel because that's doable for sure I'd think. Maybe something like this: Trade Craig Kimbrel and Matt Foster to Philadelphia for Jean Segura, Jose Alvarado and Rafael Marchan Trade Gavin Sheets and Zack Collins to Oakland for Sean Manaea and upside reliever of some sort? Sign OF Michael Conforto to 4 year $88 million deal. Backload the deal. Re-Sign Ryan Tepera for 2 years $14 million 1. Tim Anderson SS 2. Yoan Moncada 3B 3. Luis Robert CF 4. Yasmani Grandal C 5. Jose Abreu 1B 6. Eloy Jimenez LF 7. Michael Conforto RF 8. Andrew Vaughn DH 9. Jean Segura 2B Bench C Rafael Marchan INF/OF Leury Garcia OF Adam Engel LHB Bench bat of some sort Rotation 1. Lance Lynn 2. Lucas Giolito 3. Dylan Cease 4. Sean Maneae 5. Michael Kopech Bullpen Liam Hendriks RHP Kendall Graveman RHP Ryan Tepera RHP Reynaldo Lopez RHP Aaron Bummer LHP Garrett Crochet LHP Jose Alvarado LHP Dallas Keuchel LHP
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  9. Hockey fans kill Bettman every chance they get.
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  10. Yea they did such a great job of replacing a temporary injury for negative value at the position last year.
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  11. When the lockout is over let’s sign a Rodon and maybe Tepera and move ahead. If we can’t trade Kimbrel I am fine with him staying. W we have options at 2B. We have a real good team
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  12. Free Agency: Trevor Story - 112 career wRC+ estimated cost: $18M-22M+ Annually Pluses - Defense (while this has been very muted outside a tremendous 2019, lots of signs he should be a great 2b - he is excellent at DP depth), Power (career .251 iso) Walks (9% walk rae) Minuses - Unknown coors effects Below Avg vs. RHP (98 career wRC+, 83 last year, our division has excellent RHP) Contact (23% K rate) Josh Harrison - 103 2021 wRC+ estimated cost ($4-5M+ annually) Pluses - Contact (13% krate) Not bad vs RHP (98 wRC+) Defense (outs above average loves, loves Josh Harrison) Minuses - Inconsistent offense (career 98 wRC+) BABIP dependent no power Age of decline (34 years old) Jose Iglesias - 91 2021 wRC+ estimated cost ($2-3M+ annually) Pluses - Contact (14% krate) Defense (outs above average likes his 2b more than his SS at this age) Minuses - BABIP dependent offense Bad vs RHP (81 wRC+) Doesn't walk Donovan Solano - 105 2021 wRC+ estimated cost ($2-3M+ annually) Pluses - Slightly above average offensively Average power 96 wRC+ (counts as positive with this group) Minuses - Bad defensively unreliable walk rate, higher k rate 34 years old Andrelton Simmons - 56 2021 wRC+ estimated cost ($6-9M+ annually) Pluses - World class defense at shortstop Can backup TA Plus Contact Minuses - Horrendous offense Zero power BABIP driven offense Career 85 wRC+ vs RHP Trades: Jean Segura - 103 2021 wRC+ COST 14M + 1M 2023 buyout Pluses - Great defense at second Contact (13% K rate) Average vs RHP Minuses - Fathom says he is mopey and has bad vibes Lacks power Expensive money wise Tony Kemp - 127 2021 wRC+ COST $2.5M Pluses - Great OBP in 3 of last 4 years (STEAMER predicts .350 OBP) Career 103 wRC+ vs RHP, 130 wRC+ last year Good, versatile defense by OAA Seems like he should be cheap prospect wise Minuses - Not a strong history of reliable performance to trust any of the above aside from defense Jeff McNeil - 93 2021 wRC+ COST PRE-ARB did not see value Pluses - Career 126 wRC+ 3 years of control Career 132 wRC+ vs RHP Contact 14% kRate Walk Rate 13% Walk Rate Great defense at 2b by OAA very likely the most perfect fit possible Minuses - Bad 2021 Expensive by Prospects/talent likely Ryan McMahon - 95 2021 wRC+ COST PRE-ARB did not see value Pluses - Above average vs RHP (106 wRC+) Good power (.195 iso) Good walk rates Minuses - Bad contact (25-30%K) While excellent last year, in 2019-20 was a ground ball machine a la Leury Garcia Amazing at 3rd, but only average to slightly below average at 2b by OAA Likely requires a very strong package of talent Tommy LaStella - 94 2021 wRC+ COST $6M Pluses - Madrigal-level contact Good BB rate Good GB% career 107 wRC+ vs RHP Minuses - Bad 2021 Back injury in 2021 and struggled after Not good defensively, possibly very bad late bloomer Possible platoon bad w/ Leury Easiest way out of this appears to be Kemp trade. Best way out seems to be McNeil, but I have 5% confidence he's traded.
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  13. They seem to have totally misread the market. If they cant move Kimbrel for Segura. Just keep Kimbrel and go hard for kris Bryant. Move Moncada back to 2b and slide KB to 3b. It seems were behind the 8 ball.
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  14. I didn't watch the 2nd half - but at end of the 1st half - 4th and 2 from midfield, down 14 points. I get it - maybe they fail and if they did Cardinals probably score another TD. But you are huge underdogs down 14 pts - if you have any shot at winning you have to roll the dice there. I'm hoping Fields makes things fun when he comes back next week - but counting down the days until no more Nagy.
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  15. So far he thinks Soxtalk is pro ownership and pro racist, yet is still actively posting here.
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  16. Gotta love the color guy (Schlereth?) giving credit to JJ Watt for AZ’s d-line effort. Theses guys get a narrative and stick with it.
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  17. Didn't agree with his politics but he was a good man and a good Senator.
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  18. That sound you hear is Judge Kenesaw Landis turning over in his grave.
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  19. Comments: Good signings @Chicago White Sox. I agree with your assessment @TheFutureIsNear, I also suggested to broaden the trade net to try to open up flexibility across the high priced FA/extensions of the past two offseasons, and also agree the Schwarber would be one of the best high impact bats, he was the top consideration for me in terms of impact bats, but I only passed due to the overload of DH/LF options on the current roster. @Y2Jimmy0 - While I do agree it likely the Sox will at minimum attempt to flip Kimbrel and your moves make sense in that context. For the purposes of this thread, I tried to keep the parameters the same as last year (strictly an assessment of $30M for free agency). Introduction: My initial plan focused on three aspects. 1. Clearing some of the higher priced veterans for young talent which can win now. 2. Improving the team defensively. 3. Adding free agents to bring a TOR starter and improve defensively behind the plate (Contreras and Gomes, ironically the current two Cubs catchers). Robbie Ray, Yan Gomes and Leury Garcia were my three Free Agent targets in late October. The three came in at slightly over the $30M range we are using for this excercise. Leury returned as expected, Ray and Gomes signed solid deals which I wish the Sox were able to offer and secure. Matz was not an initial target, but his deal was also team friendly and something I wish the Sox were able to match / exceed and sign, almost as much as Cohen. My four current acquisition targets at this stage are: Carlos Rodon (Age 29 $19.0M AAV - $76M/3+1 KH terms) - Assuming his medicals check out, he is the top starting pitcher. Perhaps have a creative terms like the Hendriks deal, giving Carlos a higher guarantee with a flexible final year. Now that he is working off of a solid innnings base, a return to his form of last year will make him a formidable playoff starter able to help navigate the team through the postseason. Josh Harrison (Age 35 $5.0M 1 year + team option) - I preferred Lux or another solid trade acquisition, and while I wouldn't have renewed Kimbrel, I would prefer a trade for Segura at this stage, but for the purpose of this exercise, Harrison provides the best opportunity to provide a solid presence at 2B. Villar and Iglesias both have 2B listed in the Fangraphs Free Agent list, but their primary experience is other positions, and the Sox would be best served by a regular 2B, not converting one on the fly and hoping it works out. J Hey is an adequate fielder with a decent bat, providing a 1.5 fWAR last season / 1/2 projected for 2022. He will allow Leury to do what he does best, provide the team flexibility across many positions. Stephen Vogt (Age 37 $3.5M 1 year) - Of the remaining catchers, he is the best defensive option and will provide a solid veteran presence to help work with pitchers. He can work with Lucas and Carlos (Grandal can DH or play 1B those days) while Grandal can work with Lynn, Cease and Keuchel. Jake Diekman (Age 35 $2.5M 1 year) - While I considered a 5th OF with the remaining funds (Schwarber and Pederson far out of reach with the available budget), I believe adding one more reliever, in part to allow flexibility with Kimbrel, is the best use of the remaining budget. Signing him more for his October possibilities than to get the Sox through the regular season, as the can muddle through with Ruiz/Burr for the final spot. Has playoff experience and is another solid piece to the bullpen at a reasonable cost. Fan Graphs White Sox Roster 2022 Free Agent Tracker 2022 Offseason Take Two Final Roster: (Steamer Projected 2021 Games (or Innings for pitchers) / fWAR) Infield: C Grandal (127 / 4.5); 1B Abreu (150 / 2.1); 2B Harrison (118 / 1.2); SS Anderson (150 / 3.3); 3B Moncada (149 / 3.8). Outfield/DH: Robert (149 / 4.8) Jimenez (146 (HA!) / 2.5; Vaughn (115 / 1.5) & Sheets (110 / 1.0). Reserves: INF Garcia (112 / 1.1); OF Engel (87 / 0.5); C Vogt (45 / 0.2); INF/OF Mendick (39 / 0.3). Starters: Giolito (184 / 3.3); Rodon (154 / 3.8); Lynn (187 / 3.4); Kopech (145 / 2.7); Cease (170 / 3.0) Keuchel (161 / 1.2). Relievers: Hendriks (68 / 1.5); Bummer (64 / 0.9); Crochet (74 / 0.9); Kimbrel (66 / 0.7); Diekman (69 / 0.6); Graveman (62 / 0.4); Lopez (57 / 0.3). Minor League Standby: Lambert, Adolfo, Ruiz.
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  20. Or have three independent groups running baseball. Perhaps one group elected by the players, another group elected by the owners, and a commissioner elected by the fans. To change anything it would take a majority of votes in the first two groups plus the commissioner. If the commissioner doesn’t believe it’s in the best interest of the game they can say no, but then the other two groups could override if they have a supermajority of votes.
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  21. I am pretty sure this poster is NSC.
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  22. You aren't the problem because you disagree with them.
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  23. If Madrigal gets elected to Hall of Fame 20 years from now, will he go in wearing a White Sox cap, or Cubs?
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  24. I'm not suggesting they are spoiled, I believed until proven otherwise they are hard working, competitive men, trying to make the most money possible. So I agree that is a silly thought. I also think it's silly to worry that Luery is only earning $5.5 mil next year instead of $7 mil or that Roberts might not be a free agent soon enough. Which Sox contract do you look at and think damn I would feel better if he was making more? I doubt any of them. I also don't care how much the share holders earn.
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  26. I think it is safe to say they will not be trading for Nick Madrigal.
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  27. Lol, these were the seasons that gave the team "unprecedented flexibility" as Hahn put it. It's incredibly frustrating that covid is their excuse for not using all those savings like they claimed they would. I guess there is still time for them to spend it, though. We shall see.
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  28. The Sox ranked 29th in baseball in payroll in 2018 at 72 million. 24th in 2017 26th in 2019 "Their payrolls were somewhat high."
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  29. This argument is so damn tired and pointless I don't really know what to say anymore. The White Sox have more contracts committed than pretty much every other team too. That's why their payroll is higher in November. November payrolls are completely meaningless; people who cite it as a reason the Sox aren't cheap are exhausting. And yes the figure you cite IS taking into account the expected Arb raises for players like Giolito.
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  30. See, sometimes spreading the same amount of $ across a few players is better than breaking the bank on someone like Semien. Not a guarantee either way, but different ways to attack things.
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  31. ive never seen adult men hold a grudge over one disagreement like southside2k and chicago white sox. It's a shame because I considered them friends on this site. Until i ripped on our MLB front office for their mlb evaluations (which, in my eyes, has since been validated by harold's left leg saying they wildly misunderstood the market). Lesson learned dont disagree with either of them or you're a problem
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  32. I’ve never carried water for Jerry. He’s a shitty owner and has been my whole life.
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  33. Y’all really wanna kill Luis Robert by flanking him with Eloy and Castellanos?
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  34. How embarrassing for MLB and the entire sports world😏
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  35. Obviously he should have been in long, long ago and enjoyed it himself. He was second best AL player 1951-1961, after a late arrival to the American League for obvious reasons. It’ll be nice when they right a wrong, but completely bittersweet.
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  36. I hope JR wont have to get a 2nd job now
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  37. Good post mortem autopsy, we didnt play up to our potential but have to admit the better team won. I despise Houston but they sure beat us like a drum for the most part. I look for them to go to the WS
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  39. With the exception of 2005 and I guess 2008 if you count that, this franchise has a long and storied (ha ha) history of getting bounced out in the opening round. This yr will be no exception. Houston is the superior team
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  40. Im not saying Nick is going to b a superstar. I mean we thought the same of Gordon Beckham. We all knew how he ended up
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  41. Like the Sammy Sosa trade. The Cubs saw us coming. Totally fleeced
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  42. We're just not a complete good team, we won a bad division and beat up on some bad teams but when we meet a quality team see what happens, our misery will continue into the off season
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  43. good ass movie... if some of you haven't seen it - must watch.
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