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Just so people know: Elvis Andrus is going into his age 34 season and will more than likely suck s%*# next year. he played way over his head for the sox (big time dead cat bounce energy) and even while far exceeding any expectations his line with chicago was only .271/.309/.464/.773 (puffed up ISO by like 80 points, he's good for about .120 not .200). He has an 82 OPS+ over his last 2300 plate appearances, he's not good anymore.

If the choice was Tony or Ricky, the answer was always Ricky.

Ironically, the White Sox have something of a recent history of having managerial fires that go completely against what Rick Hahn says he is looking for.

The Score talked about Thome also. I guess coaching 14u Sparks team is the equivalent to 2022 White Sox.

I really hope it's Espada

No, no it's not.

Chris Getz shouldn't even be in consideration. This goddamn org just can't get out of its own way.

Have the Sox interviewed Pants Rowland yet?

It’s because JR is too involved in the day to day operations and doesn’t allow Hahn to make the decision.

Moncada strikes me as someone who would be dumped onto the Dodgers and turn into perennial monster.

These two threads should be merged since they’re the same.

So after ducking Cease vs. Civale twice this season, the Guardians decided to not duck Civale in their most important game of the year and it bites them in the ass. I know it's petty, but it just feels right.

How does that rock the baby mock feel now Naylor, you asshat!

There is no way they would hire Thome after what Hahn said at the press conference. They may bring one of the old guys in and have him groom him, but no way. And I don’t even think Thome would so bad.

So much yelling into the wind here. I get the sox don't deserve benefit of the doubt but literally 0 sources to say they're actually interested in Getz or Thome.

Thome would be another Jerry Reinsdorf intervention on the process. I gotta believe that in order to retain a minimum amount of faith in WillHahn.

Guardians screwed by a rain delay with Civale on the mound could not be a more fitting ending

Merk is a company man. as someone else said, I think you have to take what he says with some credence as he's likely being fed it. You'd be hard pressed to find a negative take out of Merk about the Sox. My personal and totally unfounded guess. I think you see Hahn have the decision and it's not a "Sox" name, but then KW, JR have their say and power to essentially push their own bench coach .... aka Jim Thome, Willie Harris, AJ Pierzysnki, etc. etc.

Oh Dear God, they are going to screw this up aren’t they? They need to hire someone for the manager position from outside the organization that will bring in fresh new ideas. Thome as the bench coach or the hitting coach would be good, but not the manager yet.

Conforto would be the best LH hitting OF we’ve had since what….2015 Adam Eaton? 2005 Scott Podsednik? This organizations inability to acquire a LH hitting OF that is actually decent goes back over 15 years.

Seems like a big factor in Marte's 2021 performance being pretty rotten was a number of injuries including more than 1 hamstring pull. But the good news is the White Sox have an excellent record of keeping people healthy lately.

Absolute surprise. He was the favorite to win ALDS MVP.

Ron Washington isn’t coming here to be a bench coach. Chris Getz isn’t going to manage. Hire Shildt or Espada and I’m happy.

you just keep posting, huh?

Conforto for 12 million and a backend starter for the rest. Many names fit here. Clevinger? I am not in the camp of needing to spend 20 million on a SP. IF we don't get a Giolito/Lynn bounce back, it doesn't matter anyways.

It doesn’t. My heart doesn’t want to see him in another uniform, but my head can’t find a rational path to bringing him back while also addressing RF, the need for LH power, improving the OF defense, and finding ABs enough for everyone.

You just did more research and put in more time than the actual front office of this team will put into signing this guy. Kudos.

Good lord that ball left a vapor trail.

I love Thome as a person and eventually a position coach and then leader. That said, of all the boxes Hahn listed in the presser, Thome checks NONE OF THEM! I have to believe the Sox are trotting out all these red herrings so we will be satisfied with their ultimate pick. "Leaking" names like Thome and Getz perfume choices like Washington, Maddon and Shlidt when one of them gets picked.

And the absolute laziness of the org. is underappreciated.

He’s a hot commodity right?

For once, it would be nice to see this organization run a genuine managerial search and at the end hire whoever the best candidate is. The entire org is so petrified of stepping outside of their comfort zone, it's insane.

I struggle to come up with a trade that makes sense that nets us one of those guys. I am all for acquiring Marte, but a TA for Marte deal would be very bad.

You'd have to get a good prospect with him back

I even saw a tweet saying Ozzie is not out of the running. That may be true, but I'm not officially out of the running either. I haven't been interviewed, and no one from the Sox has contacted me. But they haven't officially said I'm not an option.

Kelenic certainly is a left-handed outfielder.

Look on the bright side; for the next two years you’re guaranteed Leury isn’t going anywhere and we get to watch Moncada struggle as he makes $42M!

Please just sign someone young, from a separate organization lol. Espada is my #1.

So Jerry really is smarter than our front office.

Listen, I get it. i get the money, I get the payroll, i get the predicament that both Eloy and AV present. I just fail to see how the team gets better by taking away its most consistent player and leader from the clubhouse. I totally get his age, his power that fell off a bit, etc. But based on his loyalty and based on injuries of like .... this whole team over and over. I just dont get how you can't give him something like 1 year, $14mm, and like a $4mm buyout with a mutual option at like $15mm. It guarantees him $18mm this year, or like $29-30mm on a two year deal. It's probably somewhere in the realm of reality on a deal like that against the market. Inevitably Eloy will be hurt - thats what history tells us. Until that point you have Eloy and Vaughn split DH and LF and Abreu at 1B. When Eloy gets hurt you now have Vaughn as your fulltime DH and Pollock as your full time LF. Like ... we know this will be a scenario needed for at least 60 games next year. Without Abreu you now have Vaughn at 1B, Eloy hurt, Pollock in LF and what? you're gonna try and convince me the likes of someone like .... Yaz at DH and bringing up a catcher from AAA is a better depth move? Mark this down for June 1 at the latest. Yaz at DH when Eloy is hurt for an extended period. Here are my likely guesses for his destination: Astros - this is what i'm talking about ... how am i supposed to be a sox fan when you let our top player over the last decade walk and he goes and signs against the top team we're supposed to overcome? yuli contract is up. he's such an easy candidate to slide in. it makes so much sense. cubs - i don't think it'll happen, but depends on how much he wants to stay in chicago. again, not great optically cleveland - don't be completely shocked. cleveland has had a hole there. abreu isn't overly expensive and the team has talent to compete. theyve got espino coming up to make that rotation even stronger. it's a young team. miami - would make sense in some sense. i'm not sure they'll spend. yankees - id have to think rizzo opts out. would fit. and again, like cleveland or houston - another team we're trying to overcome. we're not only losing one of our top guys, we now have to go play him. san diego/san fran - bell contract up? i think? belt was on a year deal. both seem like relevant choices. tampa - it makes some sense on paper based on shorter duration of contract and need. you look at that list ... chances are outside of miami he's going to a competitor that is already better than us. not a great look.

Let’s be real, he’s going to be on a different team and and the Sox STILL won’t addrsss RF.

This does not spark joy.

200 mil is mostly holding serve, right? They were at 192 last year. They will drop Keuchel and Abreu's salary's, but other salaries will go up, plus a hole or two will need to be filled (from the dollar store as usual I'm sure). That should keep them in the 200 mil neighborhood. I definitely could see Conforto on a 'prove it' deal. The Sox love deals like that where they gamble on a player who's value is down and hope he performs like his old self.

I just don't know why the Sox would even consider another old fossil. What is the point? Is there a lack of candidates under 60?

1. Espada 2. Beltran 3. Bochy 4. Grifol 5,432. Washington 6,749,530. Maddon 7,645,980,610. Shildt So it will be Shildt

Sure, but he wouldn't be hitting against Cubs pitching anymore, which would hurt him.

It's not 18 million for the 10000000000000th time. No matter how many times people post it to be critical, the White Sox are paying Jose Abreu 14 million dollars in 2022. If 14 million dollars at DH is going to impact their ability to contend then they never stood a chance. If a 14 million dollar sunken cost is the WORST thing that happens to this team in FA over the next 5 years, then holy cow they did an incredible job.