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I’m sure Kopech will be ready for a full season by 2030.

I'd much rather take Harper propelling the Sox to a WS appearance and missing halfish of the following season than not having him at all.

I'm not even advocating for signing Judge, never entertained it because we all know it's not happening. Hypothetically speaking, I don't care if they're cooked for a decade if it didn't work out because it would've at least shown that they're serious about trying to win in their proclaimed "window" over constantly shopping at TJ Maxx for all their free agents. To me, missing out on both Harper and Machado because of sheer incompetence is the biggest failure of the rebuild era.

They aren't tight on money they just don't want to spend it on payroll. Either out of greed or just JR screwing the FO over for pushing out his friend. But they aren't legitimately tight on cash that can't be possible with all the different revenue streams. There's no fucking way.

I think this is my least favorite type of post, the hyperbole swing in the opposite direction is just so worthless. It makes you sound fucking stupid.

https://ontapsportsnet.com/white-sox/mlb-winter-meetings-2022-chicago-white-sox-preview-rick-hahn until proven otherwise, 100% this

Going into a "competitive" season and banking on ReyLo being a starter seems like a disaster waiting to happen.

I love me some catfish sammich. Fried okra on the side. Tabasco. Tall glass of brisk Lipton iced tea. Keep your hands and feet out of the eating area.

Judge will be 31 early in the season and has the big body type that tends to not age very well. Harper and Machado were 26 when they were free agents and were about as good of free agent superstar bets as you'll ever see - as people said at the time. That isn't Monday morning quarterbacking here.

Not bad use of the AJ Pollock money saved for 2023.

@maloney.adam - Is Bruce really stealing your made up rumors?

Q and Cueto are the definition of old blood in this example.

I don’t care if we only got four quality years out of the deal, sign Judge to a 9/$342M deal and I would be the happiest person in the world.

Your 2023 Chicago White Sox.....Welcome to the Pointless Forest

This is epic

Fields had the 2 picks but he was really poised passing today. Probably best I have seen him as a passer. And winning would have been bad draft wise - so fields was good…bears also maintain strong draft position.

So unless we start unloading serious money we are one league average signing away from not having enough payroll room to afford a plate of Nashville hot chicken.

Yep…I remember when he was super excited a couple years ago at the winter meetings when he acquired Nomar Mazara

In a world in which what’s left of Clevinger gets $12 mil for 1 year, Gio for $10.8 is a pretty darn good risk. He doesn’t have to be top 3 Cy Young to be well worth it. If the Sox are serious about being “in their competitive window,” you would not trade Gio unless you got a haul.

You don't let Abreu walk at 3/58 if you're just going to sign Josh Bell. If they were open to moving AV for an OF, they would have re-signed Abreu.

I’d be more open to it if there were any pitching depth in the upper minors, or if the org weren’t deathly afraid of pay for starters on the open market.

Mutual options are never exercised by both.. Basically it's a 1 year 12 million with 4 million of it deferred to after next season. The Sox will be on the hook for the additional 4 million even if they exercised it.

No. Option has to be exercised by both parties. It's either a 1/12 or 2/20 deal. It's just deferring $4M until next year.

I think it was Cali that suggested trade Hendriks and have ReyLo close, and that gave me pause but worth considering. But I still think ReyLo is closer to being a closer now than he is to going back into the rotation.

More like the $100M+ question given how much starting pitchers cost now.

If Sox trade AV, let Abreu walk and then turn around and give Josh Bell 3/$48M. Oh my.

But then you suggested signing Josh Bell to replace Vaughn. If we’re willing to spend, then just sign Nimmo. Which option would you rather have? 1. Reynolds OF, Bell 1B, no Montgomery in the system 2. Nimmo OF, Vaughn 1B, Montgomery still in the system I would take option 2, and it’s not particularly close in my opinion.

Players that people on the this board like and talk about trading for

Damn Reading posts here and Twitter you would think Reynolds is the next coming of Mike trout. Yes, we need to give up Vaughn, gio, and Montgomery... Fucking dumbasses .......any and all of you who believe that 🤡

I wish I lived in the universe where the Eddie DeBartolo led group was allowed to buy the White Sox.

I would not be surprised by Rays there. Disney money coming in clutch for them.

If the Sox anticipated shopping anywhere but the Salvation Army, there would have been Soxfest this year. They gave away they are cowards, they also gave away they weren’t planning on doing enough that would get Soxfest attendees minds off of 2022 this winter.

Kam Misner

It's not a rumor. It's confirmed facts

Anyone else think we see an Addison Reed type deal happen at the Meetings? Hendriks dealt for a couple young MLB ready players that can contribute now/soon? Edit: wrong thread but f*** it.

If he's bad:1 year $12mm ($8mm + $4mm buyout) If he's good: 1 year $12mm ($8mm + $4mm buyout) as he would choose free agency If he's okay: possibly 2 years for $20mm

I’d say the 2006 version specifically. .298/.350/.477 with 24 HR’s sounds about right to hope to get out of Vaughn’s prime years. Very good player, shouldn’t be looking to get rid of that player by any means…but when you are talking about a 1B/DH only type of guy the value obviously goes down. If Vaughn could be used in a package without Colas or Montgomery to get an all-star caliber LH OF’er I think you’d have to seriously consider it.

They can at least use it as a means to convince Jerry to spend more haha.

I'd rather trade lynn and hendricks then get creative with the extra 33m saved Both have generous club options and should also return average starter talent If done correctly hahn could fill 2 holes plus have around 60m+ to spend while only losing an aging #3 and closer best case with gio is you'll get around 2WAR in return but won't get any payroll relief

I believe they pay it

Currently working on this article haha

I think it would be dumb to trade Lucas when his value is so low, I would hope for a first half rebound then evaluate at the deadline to see where he/team are at.

I think you’re going to overboard eithe the talent offer. I could see a Gavin Sheets. Jake Burger and maybe Davis Martin

The game has radically changed since then and blue chip prospects are more valuable than ever. The Adam Eaton deal is a poor comp for a Reynolds trade. Regardless, two top 75 prospects is not worth the same as Montgomery & Vaughn. Teams aren’t stupid. Andrew was a top 20 prospect who was rushed like crazy and played out of position by a desperately dumb organization. This same kid had a 125 wRC+ through August of last year despite the worst hitting coach in baseball playing up his worst tendencies and before his legs wore out from playing the OF. Every intelligent organization would die to acquire him and watch him develop into a 140 wRC+ hitter. He’s worth considerably more than you think he is despite only four years of control. And conveniently you use the MLB.com rankings for Montgomery and not Baseball America’s, who have him as the #35 overall prospect. The difference between the #35 prospect and a guy in the 60’s or 70’s is massive. And guys like Montgomery, especially of the positional variety, don’t get moved very often in this day and age. He is the type of centerpiece prospect that would get the Pirates’ attention and one very clubs would be willing to match. Honestly, I’m doubtful the Sox would even consider moving him. I truly believe something like Montgomery, Ramos, & Vera would be incredibly tempting to the Pirates and I’m not sure many teams would actually want to pay a steeper price than that.

I guess you forgot Kopech had 2 whole years off, so being part of a division champion rotation was pretty absurd. Besides, you just told us the Sox get no credit for Kopech because you don’t think he’s any good. So you are now whining about the Sox not using a pitcher you are whining about in their rotation when they won a division. You must be pretty popular at parties.

That is really insane for a pitcher. This is one area I agree with JR. Develop your own or get them in short term deals for big bucks - long term with massive bucks is just so risky.

Gleyber is just more of what we have though. Right handed hitting below average defender that isn't great against RHP. I'd be fine with Gleyber if they also spent $ to fix the OF, but in a vaccum, I don't like him as a target at all. We are also in no position to be trading away Sean Burke who is the closest thing we have to SP depth after Martin.

lol guess

I remember in 2006 when I was at Disney World with the family and we were at the same hotel and same time as the Winter Meetings. Crazy town.