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  1. Love to see Lee and Quero behind the plate into the 2030s! Sox Win!
    4 points
  2. Chris Getz looks like a 1980s teen movie villain.
    4 points
  3. That's part of the problem. All of a sudden after being Chairman/Owner of the Sox for over 40 years NOW he's worried about his legacy ? He's already had a long time to build his legacy , after all he's the one who created it. Oh you poor ,dear Sox fans, you're going to lose your franchise unless Uncle Jerry saves you. Let me translate that . I'm worried that my heirs will not be able to eventually sell the team for a massive profit unless they get a sweetheart deal which not only includes a new ball park but a whole White Sox based tourist attraction. I've driven away most Sox fans so the only ones left to exploit are tourists. No Sox fan trusts Reinsdorf to actually deliver on any promise he makes that he says will make the Sox more competitive. He's been in the easiest division to win for 4 decades and couldn't figure out how to do it. Oh in my declining years I've been visited by 3 ghosts like Ebenezer Scrooge that said there was still time to change my legacy. God bless us every one ! Thank you Jerry Reinsdorf ! Thank you !
    4 points
  4. Quero gives prospect fans some hope. See pitch hit pitch.
    3 points
  5. Micker measured in at 6-4, 235 Elko is 6-4, 250
    3 points
  6. Seby swung and missed at a pitch in the dirt. Someone in the crowd: "I remember that swing!" Nice hustle and catch by Moustakas!
    3 points
  7. Catcher of the future Edgar Quero wins it
    2 points
  8. Sox win! Nice hanging with you guys this afternoon!
    2 points
  9. Go away Maldonado and Stassi...we are set at C.
    2 points
  10. I love spring training late innings...just the oddest looking bunch of guys that will never see the big leagues.
    2 points
  11. This is a bunch of guys who will be playing in Charlotte
    2 points
  12. that's white sox baseball right there!
    2 points
  13. 5200 attendance. JR may soon be asking Phoenix and AZ officials for new home so he can compete.
    2 points
  14. That's a good question. Elko is like a big country boy. Micker is maybe leaner (but he is a hulk).
    2 points
  15. 6' 5" 240 if I'm remembering right from yesterday. Might weigh more .
    2 points
  16. No video for me....is he as big as Micker Adolfo? I remember being shocked at how big Micker is.
    2 points
  17. Elko is a big boy. I thought that was out.
    2 points
  18. Savings! Lee and Elko the heroes of the day. Not sure Payton will pass the defense test but made a game effort there.
    2 points
  19. DJ says with the correct turn, Colas could have caught, though not a routine play. Nice to see Sosa playing and cutting down the runner at home.
    2 points
  20. he came close his other two at bats...3 at bats, 10 balls. meaningless observation? probably. but after that walk I'll now be keeping track.
    2 points
  21. Jesse Chavez is 9 days older than Chris Getz. Dominic Fletcher is six inches smaller than Chris Getz. Kevin Pillar is 35 years old. .692 is his best the first three real seasons this decade. Mike Moustakas is 35 years old. .685 is his best the first three real seasons this decade. This is not a serious franchise and won't be until a person without Reinsdorf in their name is controlling the franchise.
    2 points
  22. Not for a team in a major market that was close to even with the Cubs until the late 90s.
    2 points
  23. A large amount of the money beyond the $1B for the stadium will go for infrastructure at the site. The big ticket items I've heard of are a Red Line subway stop at 15th and Clark, building a Riverwalk to connect the site to downtown, and realignment of the Rock Island tracks. So, it's not just running utilities through there. Those items alone will cost a ton of money (hundreds of millions I'm guessing), but will make the land more valuable for development regardless of whether the site includes a ballpark. IMO, realignment of the train tracks is a must if they ever want to fully realize the value of that property (even without a ballpark). Right now, you really can't access it from Clark St. due to the train line running right along the Clark St. edge of the 78 property. Moving and lowering the grade of those Metra tracks will be costly.
    2 points
  24. Harping on the lack of a $100M contract is a bit on the form-over-substance side. JR has still spent in the upper quartile multiple times. The Pirates' (and others') owners have not. They did offer Wheeler over 100M. And as clownish has Hahn's pursuit of Machado was, they did offer him over 100M (that dog and pony show said a lot more about Hahn than it did JR). The problem has been the FO's poor use of resources provided. While Getz is in the same lineage as KW and his sidekick Hahn, at least he doesn't have them looking over his shoulder. Now if those resources have been permanently ratcheted down, that's another story.
    2 points
  25. Well, the people who care will have some say in the White Sox getting a new stadium. Imagine JR announcing a $150 million extension for Dylan Cease, $250 million for Robert and $600 million committed towards the new stadium. The mood around the fanbase and about the stadium project would change dramatically, OVERNIGHT. For example, like one of the Dodgers’ principal owners (Todd Boehly) with Chelsea FC. Reinsdorf would not even dream of signing more than 3-5 similar players because he’s more afraid of what can go wrong rather than dreaming of what could actually go right. He is at the age where wealth preservation and risk mitigation supersede all other considerations. Imagine even those lowly Rays being willing to reinvest $650 million of their own money back into new stadium efforts. JR won’t publicly put in even a penny so far. Since then under Boehly, Chelsea have handed out seven-year contracts seemingly for fun and paid more than €1 billion in transfer fees for 28 new players -- a previously unthinkable sum of money for a previously unthinkable number of acquisitions in an 18th-month span. https://www.espn.com.au/football/insider/insider/story/_/id/39578180/grading-all-28-chelsea-player-signings-todd-boehly-analysis-data-billion#:~:text=Since then under Boehly%2C Chelsea,in an 18th-month span.
    2 points
  26. Burdick does have two options FWIW. Personally, I’d rather gamble on this kid as the weak side of a RF platoon than give Pillar the role. But I assume the latter happens, at least to start the season.
    2 points
  27. I mean, who cares? Haven’t we already established that Jerry sucks?
    2 points
  28. The best one is that three million in attendance will somehow magically make Ohtani and Yamamoto deals a realistic possibility…well, that’s just dumb because the Bulls are historically Top 3 in attendance and have signed how many true superstars since the Dynasty was disbanded? Zach LaVine’s the only guy (internally) signed to a massive deal and that’s already turned into an albatross contract. They let Butler go instead of paying him. Rose and Ball eliminated themselves with injuries. D-Wade is the closest but that was already too late in his career…like numerous HoF guys the White Sox have brought in during their final 2-3 seasons.
    2 points
  29. Public funds used for a stadium or arena can generate new revenues for a city only if one of the following situations occurs: 1) the funds generate new spending by people from outside the area who otherwise would not have come to town; 2) the funds cause area residents to spend money locally that would not have been spent there otherwise (opportunity cost) or 3) the funds keep turning over locally, thereby "creating" new spending. Very little evidence exists to suggest that sporting events are better at attracting tourism dollars to a city than other activities. More often than not, tourists who attend a baseball or hockey game, for example, are in town on business or are visiting family and would have spent the money on another activity if the sports outlet were not otherwise made available. https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/regional-economist/april-2001/should-cities-pay-for-sports-facilities#:~:text=Public funds used for a,that would not have been Scholarly econometric studies on the impact of professional sports stadiums are almost unanimous in their conclusion that they do not promote employment or per capita income growth (see here and here). Econofact
    2 points
  30. Getting revenge by us not ending up with a world class stadium and possibly losing the team? Again, you guys care more about Jerry losing than the Sox winning.
    2 points
  31. Holmes, the champion of Bridgeport. Bridgeport doing great, it just has 20% the population density of the Loop. Bridgeport has also done literally nothing to support the sox. I know dick thinks that's 100% Jerry's job but I'd disagree. Jerry Reinsdorf does NOT matter. If you're a white sox fan and care about the organization, this move is great. People fixating on Reinsdorf and his past are talking about irrelevant nonsense. The past happened, it's over with. This is about the future of the team, not Jerry's past shenanigans. This should be the one time every single Sox fan wants Jerry Reinsdord to win.
    2 points
  32. His offense isn't as good as Jimenez at DH. Although when Jimenez goes down with injury it's a possibility. Since he started a spring training game in RF, I have no doubt that the team will start him over those two all year.
    1 point
  33. Mark Payton lead off walk. Sosa 4 pitch walk. Carlos Perez PH 4 pitch walk Ramos PH pops out to RFer just behind the infield. Quero liner down LF line Sox win 8-7 !
    1 point
  34. I don't recall seeing Lee hit a ball out of the infield last season. Would be nice if that trade was not as useless as it looked.
    1 point
  35. Agreed. I liked Singleton in his work here.
    1 point
  36. This team is going to be bad. They need to work on their non-game banter.
    1 point
  37. But you can still take issue on the restricted allocation of resources. Yes he allowed their payroll to get in the upper end, BUT he made them do so by bargain shopping. Think of it this way. There is a budget for $1,000 household items and you have to go to stores to get all your items. Instead of going to one store to get your important pieces, like buying a Fridge at Menards, and then the dollar store for the fridge magnets, J.R. made it be so that they bought everything at the dollar store.
    1 point
  38. I can see no threads for even real games as there were past year due to apathy and disgust. Speaking of apathy and disgust, the Sox are 72 games better with Sheets out of the lineup than in it, despite the fact other RF candidates have also been been flawed (Eaton, Lamb, Vaughn, Colas, etc.). Between 2021-2023, Sox are net -72 (Sheets’ TWTW score) worse when Gavin Sheets plays (127-172 -45) vs. when he doesn’t play (109-82 27). This isn’t merely a coincidence, or a product of his usage (best relievers plus Billy Hamilton used to protect leads late). His poor fielding and hitting area net drag on team performance. He should be stashed in Charlotte or DFA’d, or given away for even the flimsiest of returns. Sheets has no value on a MLB team.
    1 point
  39. Poor use of resources (Bennintendi), foolish trades (James Shields) terrible Draft selections (Carson Fulmer, Zach Collins, Nick Madrigal, Courtney Hawkins...) and the last straw (for me at least) was letting Jake Burger go. Then the acquisition of over-the-hill veterans like Shields, Lance Lynn, Joe Kelly, Mazara, Grandal.. You can't complain about Owners failure to commit more resources when money is being thrown in the garbage can by management without anything to show for it. Owners are not worth billions because they just throw good money after bad money. Good riddance to KW and Hahn. I wonder what the final straw was that caused them to be dismissed summarily with a brief notice advising them to clear out their desks and not return to the field. We have not heard from those two since.
    1 point
  40. That does not suggest he’s looking for them to cover the full $4B
    1 point
  41. “There’s just not a lot of money to be made with investments like this … I’ve always looked at the ownership of a baseball franchise as a public trust, maybe even a charitable thing, I’m serious about that. I never did forgive Walter O’Malley for moving the Dodgers from Brooklyn to Los Angeles.”
    1 point
  42. Think about what that says about how a lot of people feel about this organization. Think about what is driving those feelings, that they’re that crazy. It’s THAT bad.
    1 point
  43. I don't want the Sox to leave, but I don't like the idea of being blackmailed. Nothing has happened yet, but we can see how the emotions have been stirred. I think it takes some nerve to ask for a stadium a few months after a 101-loss season. Maybe fans wouldn't think we need a new stadium to "save" the White Sox if the team won something once in a while. Since '08, this team has does nothing but lose. And yet, the same people are making the same decisions. A new stadium won't solve the problems the team has had. We don't need a new stadium. We need new ownership. I have a feeling we will get a new stadium. And any fan who thinks more money will be invested to get better players will happen because of a new stadium is naive.
    1 point
  44. I agree, but unfortunately that's not the world we live in. The Amazons, Foxconns, etc. get huge tax breaks. Billionaire sports owners get hundreds of millions in public funds for new stadiums, some of which only last 20 years. I agree that this sucks, but that's the way things are. As a Sox fan, I don't want my team to be the one "line in the sand" that is drawn against this. That being said, JR has to concede something. If his current ask isn't just an opening bid, but his last and final bid, then he's not going to get this approved.
    1 point
  45. Who are you talking to? You're not changing the world by asking your favorite team to leave over this. We've been bent over by billionaires our entire lives and the one time it'll benefit Sox fans is where they draw the line. You can't make this s%*# up.
    1 point
  46. I was born and raised on the South Side, my family was all Sox fans, some of my earliest memories revolve around the team starting in 1960. I'm loyal but unquestioned loyalty to anything...a government, a religion, a sports team is dangerous. After following the team for 63 seasons I've earned the right to criticize I think.
    1 point
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