EloyJenkins
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23 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:
That's some company the Sox are keeping isn't it?
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Royals, Detroit and even Cleveland are not too far ahead. and Minny is best in division at 17...
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3 minutes ago, ptatc said:
This brings us to a point I stated in another thread. If all of these owners are considered being cheap, JR, Orioloes, seattle.....
Why are so many people convinced that the next White sox owner will be drastically different?
It's not like JR is the only owner that everyone is considered cheap.
don't get me wrong, I would love to see the next owner spend like crazy. But what are the odds that will happen with the trend in baseball?
cheap ownership isn't possible when franchises cost over 2 billion to own now. You either have to see real value in money generation via TV deals and partnerships or be a freaking lunatic like Cohen that just want play time. The only concern I would have would be a committee ownership group...they definitely tend to be more conservative to the bottom line.
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I am definitely looking at the Karma points for saying they will get first (it was a bit of a joke to cast that), but I really don't think any team in this division is miles ahead of anyone. The Twins lost their pitching and I just haven't seen enough out of Cleveland or Detroit to see them on the 90 win path. I doubt the Sox win anymore than 75...but stranger things have happened in baseball (and my assumption is with Cease on roster...they trade him and yeah, it's for sure last place)
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I tried to add some optimism. Whomever wins...it won't be with more than 80-84 wins, so I honestly think it will be whichever teams starting pitching stays healthy. that could literally be any team...this division blows.
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This is why Sox settled for fedde and Flexen. 16 mil for Montas is bonkers. Jerry might as well sell. If #4s are 16+ mil on prove it deals, Sox will never compete again
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That seems excessive for the 7 era he carried in the second half. Cease will get a bounty.
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Relievers are the biggest crapshoot in baseball. At 1.8 and under Bannister maybe he can show some improvement and easily net a flier at trade deadline or digest some lefty innings. The crying over this one makes you all sound like whiny know it alls
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Royals are spending some money...but is it good money? These seem like mid tier moves to me. I know the Sox suck, but this division even with the Royals and Tigers getting FA signings still feels winnable by anyone...Twins are taking a step back and the Guardians are just meh. Seems like a really odd time to be rebuilding when the next 2-3 years of the division will be won by the team that gets injured the least.
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8 hours ago, caulfield12 said:
Rays did send $4 million along with Margot...who costs $10 million guaranteed for 2024 plus a 2025 $2 million buyout.
Close to $35 million saved by Tampa.
Tampa's method of business is just unreal smart. How has Jerry not realized he can MAKE EVEN MORE PROFIT if he just hired all of the Rays staff/executives...
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7 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:
I feel like teams paying what they can afford (easily) says more about the Sox' cheapness than anything else.
Spending bad money on an overpay though because they can afford it is asinine. Korean hitters rarely translate well to MLB and they just paid him elite outfielder money
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Holy overpay. This league....well, Sox fans and small market teams are so F'd.
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Which contract will be worse, 10/700 for Ohtani or 9/300 for Yamamoto?
IMO both are going to look poor in 3-4 years, but Yamamoto isn't even guaranteed to be a success without seeing him against MLB talent.
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Anyone also complaining about him skipping last year...his wife delivered their baby 3 months early and the baby fought for his life. If anything this means he is a good guy. The team needs more of those.
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With this division and if these pitchers stay healthy...now you add in premium defense and framing....this team is gonna actually compete for the division, aren't they...😅
The Twins are taking a step back and Tigers and Royals suck. Anyone complaining about this move for like a million dollars are nuts
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Just now, fathom said:
Can’t imagine how upset Angels and Jays fans are. I’m pumped it wasn’t the Cubs.
Agreed. Their fanbase would be insufferable
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Baseball is ruined. Seriously. Contract 10 teams at least, because all free agents will be 200+ mil going forward and shitty owners wont pay.
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I was a bit skeptical of this one at the cost. 2/10 would have been awesome....but after the Bannister tweet, maybe he truly did unlock his potential. He has a blue chip pedigree and promise that never happened, but mostly im just glad he pitched 180 innings. Sox need some innings eaters and 7-8 mil is that range in this market. A gamble that could really pay off and maybe see Getz has some savvy.
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1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said:
This doesn't make much sense. Picking 2 at least allows them more $ to spend in the draft while if they somehow won 85 games it would mean TONS of things went right in 2024 and make it moot that they can't pick higher than 10th in '25.
Do the Sox ever make sense? That was my point. And this board is insufferable enough without listening to incessant bitching about the top 1or 2 pick they would have gotten wrong.
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I thought this draft wasnt that great, so honestly id rather have a 5 pick that doesn't result in a huge miss than have a top 2 pick that busts. And it would be so white sox to win 85 games next year and end up getting a 13th pick next year regardless of tonights results
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3 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:
Man the Braves lineup is going to be unbelieveable. If they do get Cease they may win 120.
Kelenic sucks. Nice try
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Seen this week:
Cubs plan on making an aggressive offer on Ohtani
White Sox sign 2017 all-star SS to replace Anderson
This team really knows how to move the needle ahead of winterfest! Warm that stove Chicago, Getz is making moves while Northside just dreaming!
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Bummer will be a great piece for the Braves. That being said, the inevitable 2 walks and a bloop made watching him regularly the absolute worst stress out of the bullpen. Nicky can be a very solid SS stopgap until Colton comes in and shift to 2nd if any of our young guys still struggle. Ultimately he should be our infield super sub. Soroka is interesting. coming off injuries...THIS should be his first full health/built up strength season since his dominant 2019. I saw him pitch multiple times that year when I lived in Atlanta and his sinker is what was devastating. Coming out of 2023 he was trying to focus on a faster FB (that isn't his game). With some fresh looks from our pitching staff, I am hopeful he can at least be a solid starter and stay somewhat healthy. Everyone is a flier, let's see what happens. The A pitcher Riley Gowens has some nice scouting reports and could be interesting in a year or two.
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Jerry knows how to kick us when we are down. He is honestly the only thing that gave me any entertainment during last years abysmal in game performances.
I get that he missed out on some games because of national priorities, but unless they have a good backup plan, this is just a bad decision and the timing is so white sox
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2 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:
I have no idea who Marcus Thames is so it should be a fine hire.
If they want to hit better get better hitters.
Do you even baseball? He was on the Tigers during the Sox world series win and competitive window in the 2000s.
Yes...they need to get better hitters...but this is NOT the FA class to really help that all that much unfortunately outside the top 3-5 players (which they will never sign)
For those that question the 3rd team in 3 years narrative...his last two clubs fired their manager and he bolted assuming he would get replaced. Oh the irony here...
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Sale traded to Braves for Grissom
in Pale Hose Talk
Posted · Edited by EloyJenkins
smart move by Braves IF the Boston 17mil is still in play (I'm 99% sure it is) basically they get him for league minimum this year, 19 mil next season, and 18 mil in 2026. at pitcher salary rates and the way Braves maximize pitcher value this seems much more reasonable on why they gave up Grissom