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  1. 2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

    His plan was to sign a bunch of veterans that are supposedly good leaders, may or may not still have their defensive chops, while none of them can hit a lick.  Laying out a plan and following it doesn’t mean much if the plan is not very good to begin with.

    And the players I mentioned were Fedde, Lopez, Maldonado, Pillar, DeJong.  Not many people would use the phrase “higher ceiling” in the same sentence with any of these guys.

    I think Fedde may have a ceiling.  the rest I agree........

    One thing we do need to take into account is that Maldonado was brought here to work with the young pitching staff.  He maybe whatever he is at this point in his career but he has always been a leader with his pitchers.  

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  2. 42 minutes ago, poppysox said:

    Win the Central.  If Moncada, Eloy, and Robert play up to their potential...we will be right there.

    I'm going to play the what if game.....

    Bennintendi (Needs to regress to the norm of his career, if he does that's a solid lead off hitter)

    Moncada (Needs to stay healthy, if he can then you have a solid player)

    Robert (Super star)

    Eloy (Very capable of big numbers with High Average......stay Healthy)

    Vaughn ( Live up to the potential of a good hitter)

    Fletcher (Has hit everywhere he has been, including MLB last year)

    DeJong (He won't be there long before Montgomery takes over)

    Maldonado/Stassi

    Lopez/DeJong

     

    1-7 has the potential to be a good line-up with Montgomery BUT LOTS OF IF's

  3. 21 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

    Anderson was never right after getting taken out by yet another ex Royal attempting to play 3B…

    Many people don't understand that Tim was pretty injured last year and tried to play  through it.

    He did his damage to himself but he cared about playing.

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  4. 8 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

    Terrifies you ? A bit of hyperbole , yes?

    Doesn't seem as complicated or mystifying as you're making it out to be.

    You traded a young fast rising pitching prospect who rose fast because he can pitch beyond his years in a bad farm system so pretty easy to advance. Is he talented  ? Sure young enough to gain more command, maybe throw a little harder but hardly a surefire MLB SP. It is the 135 innings he's already pitching at his age that's most impressive. But this is a slow process of trying to build the MLB team and farm system at the same time. Your perception of Mena makes you strongly dislike the trade but he could end up a nothing. A lot of people didn't like trading that kid for Mazara either. Much ado about nothing as it turned out.

    Dominic Fletcher appears to be an MLB hitter. Sox don't have many of those in the OF who can also field. He's likely a minimum 2 War guy with 500 ABs . He has 6 years of control so that's pretty valuable.

    Getz had to get an OFer that fit his mold of defense. If you wanted a power hitting LH OF who plays good defense you weren't going to find one for Mena. That was supposed to come in a Cease trade. Maybe it still will along with a pitcher to replace Mena. But in the meantime you got the most talented hitter plus defense 4th OF guy for 6 more yrs. But right now he will be the starter.

    I'll guess if he gets 500 ABs and he's 2nd or 3rd among Sox position players with around 2.5 War.

    Getz likes doing multiplier trades. Bummer, Mena, Santos got back how many guys ? 9 and a draft pick right ?

    The 2024 and beyond Sox did get better with this trade and the coming Cease trade will perhaps fill the need for higher upside guys and a pitcher to replace Mena.

    This post makes too much sense.

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  5. 31 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

    I'd like Getz to do at least one thing that Hahn was never able to do, get an average RF. It can't be that hard. 

    Apparently it's pretty hard for white sox to find RF and 2B

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  6. 5 hours ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

    Pius is going to be 33 this year and hasn’t been in the majors or minors since 2019. There is nothing here that would make me think he would be a good addition.

    And other washed up old dudes would be according to many...

    Gallo

    Duvall 

    Etc...

  7. 6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

    Except you're asking for double the biggest contract in White Sox history when they don't have a rotation or bullpen (certainly with Santos looking iffy, even if he was 100% healthy as the closer) or a bench.

    You're betting your GM job right off the bat on being right...on someone there's a consensus he's simply not worth the $200 million he's asking for.

    You're paying at least a 25% premium for 2023 over-performance, and discarding 2020/21/22, exactly what they did with Benintendi, buying at an extreme high point and disregarding his 3 year stretch of struggling mightily.

     

    And that line-up doesn't look all that imposing at all from Robert/Bellinger on down...and God knows which version of Benintendi they get in 2024.

    If you have 2019-2022 Tim Anderson leading off instead of AB, sure, I might be more willing to agree.

     

    You're right 

    Don't sign anybody and keep shopping at scrap heap flea market.

    Man we find ways to make excuses for this s%*# organization 

  8. 37 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

    But he loses a ton of value not playing CF.

    Robert has to be there to boost his trade value.

    And blocking the Cubs from getting him or winning the PR war with them is such a flimsy excuse.

    There are also numerous glaring issues with peripherals and his power numbers compared to 2019 MVP year.

    I could care less about blocking him from cubs.

    I posted this as what is good for White Sox.

    Play RF everyday.

    Fill in for Robert in CF when he has day off or DH'ing 

    Play 1B when Vaughn has day off or has to DH because Eloy is hurt

    Lineup:

    Bennintedi 

    Bellinger

    Robert

    Eloy

    Moncada 

    Vaughn 

    2B???

    Dejong/Montgomery 

    Maldonado/Stassi 

    All of a sudden that lineup looks pretty decent with him in it 

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