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    Sox may have interest in Cueto

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    53 minutes ago, gogosox1959 said:

    Rodon was never going to sign for $18mm as he would have certainly rejected the QO.   He was gone.  He signed for $44mm over 2 years. 

    well it’s not just money. Its going to cost prospects too, if the Sox really want to be serious about the season

    Luis Robert one of five darkhorse MVP candidates

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    Posted · Edited by Chick Mercedes

    On 4/1/2022 at 10:08 PM, caulfield12 said:

    https://www.mlb.com/news/dark-horse-mvp-candidates-for-2022

    Luis Robert -- White Sox
    Key stat: 155 OPS+, 3.6 bWAR across 68 games in 2021

    Robert has only 124 career games on his big league resume, and those 124 games have had a little of everything: a tantalizing flash out of the gate in August 2020, a severe adjustment curve that September (.409 OPS) and then a scintillating sprint to the finish after he returned from a torn hip flexor last August (1.011 OPS, 12 homers in 43 games).

    So why do I see MVP hardware for Robert in Year 3? His power has been special from the start (118 mph max exit velocity, 43% career hard-hit rate). He made pitch-tracking history with how much he cut down on whiffs from 2020 to '21. He’s shown elite defense from the jump (+10 Outs Above Average, eighth among center fielders since 2020, in spite of all the missed time). And he’ll be a key cog on a White Sox club that should have baseball’s easiest path to a division title.

    We’ve already seen the five-tool potential of "La Pantera." Why not an MVP Award that arrives ahead of schedule?

    Dark horse, really? Or do I not understand fully what “Dark horse” means…

     

    ok, Tucker and Rendon yes. Franco and Robert don’t seem like dark horse candidates.

    Manaea to Padres, Sox were in on him

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    3 minutes ago, soxfan3530 said:

    So everyone is mad that we didn’t overpay for the pitcher everyone was worried we were going to overpay for. Got it. 

    Yeah, I don't know, but Vaughn is so good and valuable that the Sox can't even find a spot for him. I'd trade him. At the end of the day, he is a first baseman.

    SP Targets

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    Posted · Edited by Chick Mercedes

    1 hour ago, ron883 said:

    Said it in another thread. It seems like the team is truly capped from a salary standpoint. You can't rule out Montgomery/Kath being included in a trade. 

    Vaughn goes first. He’s worth more now anyway.

    Kimbrel traded for AJ Pollock

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    Posted · Edited by Chick Mercedes

    5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

    Sox blew the 3rd most games in baseball. The quality of a bullpen is driven by results. Sox had some powerful arms but they weren't great as a unit from a sequencing standpoint.

    TLR is supposed to be the guru of relief moves. But I think roles were a little bit undefined on this team. I don’t think a lot of guys could predict their appearance keys. And Kopech and Lopez were wildcards. Kimbrel was in no man’s land. And they were gonna do it  again with Crochet until a minute ago. Lopez is still undefined other than being undefined again.

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    Kimbrel traded for AJ Pollock

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    7 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

     

    No doubt, the Sox have made a decent recovery from a problem they had built. If have Craig Kimbrel on your team can ever be classified as a ‘problem’.  Without having to sweeten the deal. Should say what people around the league feel about what Kimbrel has left in the tank.

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    Kimbrel traded for AJ Pollock

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    Posted · Edited by Chick Mercedes

    32 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

    They shouldn’t have drafted him at all. His ceiling simply isn’t high enough for a #4 pick.

    Maybe not conceptually, but in context, that draft wasn’t a good one. Seemed like a 3 and a half player draft at the top. Madrigal having a fairly high enough floor at 4 was considerable. Kelenic was an upside roll of the dice I liked. Carter Stewart had the exiting spin rate. India didn’t fit the profile you are looking for either. Again, Madrigal’s floor was considerable in a meh draft.

    Kimbrel traded for AJ Pollock

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    5 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

    Yeah that didn’t happen when he was here at least. Him booting that ball in game 2 in Oakland was a big reason why the Sox lost that game (and subsequently the series). Not to mention he seemingly can’t stay healthy. Obviously it wasn’t a good trade but some of you act like is a star. He is not.

    I call it an asset wasted. The Sox do have a lot of assets, but they aren’t that team with an endless pipeline enough so they can be this frivolous. 

    Kimbrel traded for AJ Pollock

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    12 minutes ago, tray said:

     

    There is some irony in disposing Kimbrel with a similar logic than that used to acquire him - a similar hope than an aging player has enough juice left to put the WSox over the top. That is the same strategy used to acquire James Shields. The final piece to a puzzle is often elusive.

    At least it finally became old for old. The Sox/Hahn aren’t good at this. I vote that they stop trying, and keep their powders dry.

    Kimbrel traded for AJ Pollock

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    Posted · Edited by Chick Mercedes

    22 minutes ago, Texsox said:

    I would be happy for him if it's the case. So far he hasn't made it through one season. If that happens then the Sox did make a great draft pick in by that spot. I think it has turned out to be a bad pick. It is nice to see so many defend the pick. 

    I hated that we were in position to have to draft a 5'7 player. Was kind of intrigued with Kelenic and Brady Singer. But Madrigal was going to work out well enough. For the record, not a Vaughn guy either...CJ Abrams. I hate wasting young assets is the main point.  As far as the Sox picks go,  the college player route as a religion was very exasperating. Although with the White Sox scouting department, I can understand why they would want to play it more safe. But they were getting ridiculous.

    Kimbrel traded for AJ Pollock

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    1 hour ago, Texsox said:

    The Madrigal pick hasn't worked out with his injuries. If Pollock has a decent season and the team wins a couple playoff series, I'd claim it as a non failing use of a draft pick.

    Madrigal would have been having decent seasons and helping win playoffs series for 10+ years.. There is no way to fix this mess, just try to mitigate damage. 

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    Kimbrel traded for AJ Pollock

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    1 hour ago, Thad Bosley said:

    So the Sox converted the #4 pick overall in the draft four years ago into a half season of Madrigal, a disastrous half season by Kimbrel, and now one, maybe two seasons of an oft-injured 34 year-old decent-at-best outfielder.  

    We lost all of those games in 2017 to get the #4 pick, only for it to turn into this return.  That’s not good.  

    if AJ helps win the world series, it could become less of a sharp stick in the eye. But there is no way to make it right. 

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