CentralChamps21

I created this to be a tracker of "what the active (26 man) roster would be if there were a game today." I think it can be a helpful tool to see how things progress in the offseason. It is NOT a projection of what I think the roster will look like on March 31, just a roster you can make of players in the organization on a particular day. For example, Brian Goodwin and Danny Mendick are listed right now but I don't actually think either of them will be on the roster on March 31. Who is NOT included : Free agents, even if they haven't been signed by another team yet (Rodon, Garcia, Tepera) Who IS included: Players with options, up until the point those options are acted upon (Kimbrel, Hernandez) Also included: Arb-eligible players, up until the point where tender decisions are made (Goodwin, Marshall, Engel, Giolito, Lopez) For the last roster spots where there might be debate (Mendick vs Goodwin vs Gonzalez, Ruiz vs Burr) I just listed the player(s) who spent the most time on the roster in 2021 as a place holder until the organization makes a move. That said, this is our current roster: SP: Keuchel, Lynn, Giolito, Cease, Kopech RP: Kimbrel, Marshall, Lopez, Hendriks, Bummer, Ruiz, Cordero, Crochet C : Grandal, Collins IF: Hernandez, Abreu, Anderson, Moncada, Mendick, Sheets OF: Goodwin, Engel, Jimenez, Robert, Vaughn As transactions are made, I will update this.

Soxtalk: Kopech should have been managed differently to better prepare him for success as a starter in 2022. Also Soxtalk: Sox should have been more aggressive in chasing HFA against Houston.

I can't wait until June, when Kimbrel is in the middle of 10 straight scoreless outings, the guy we trade him for is in the middle of a 3-for-20 slump at the plate, and the same people who are now saying the Sox shouldn't even pick up his option complain that the Sox shouldn't have been cheapskates and paid Kimbrel $16 million instead of trading him.

Teams don't devalue players due to a couple bad months the same way fans do. The Sox would get plenty of value in trading either of those guys. Same goes for Kimbrel.

Yeah, anyone who puts those two sentences together in the same paragraph gets a huge "Fuck off" from me.

Is sports talk radio a Gen X/Boomer thing? I'm just asking because I don't know anybody my age who watches/listens to sports talk programming.

He had limited no-trade protection for 2020, but not for now. In a normal year, there would be a substantial market for Kimbrel and the Sox could get a player very similar to Madrigal back for him. In a year with an expiring CBA, it's much harder to guess how much demand there will be.

All those things are related. A high GB%, high AVG, high BB/K rate, and low ISO are all results of a high contact approach. Luis Robert might be the rare talent in the lineup who can cut down on his strikeouts, make more contact, and still hit for power, but not everybody has that level of talent. I think a lot of the problem may stem from pitch recognition. For a team that had stats that reflect a high contact approach, they still chased an awful lot of breaking balls out of the zone, and I think that's also why they made such poor contact on fastballs in the middle of the plate.

I would take Ozzie back over Tony, much in the same way I would take getting kicked in the nuts over getting shot in the chest.

The team wRC+, OPS, whatever stat you want to us, were propped up mostly by a batting average that was 5th in MLB, but their ISO was 17th. So the Sox were hitting a lot of singles and not producing much power. The five teams left in the postseason are all in the top 9 in ISO. The sox had a good OBP and an great BB/K rate, but without the power it just didn't produce enough runs. Especially against playoff level pitching, where it's much easier to run into a few fastballs and get homers out of them than it is to string a bunch of hits together to get runs.

If you want to have a 3-4 year window, you need to keep the closer signed for 3 more years.

He may have inside information, but he's also just saying something that's blatantly obvious that everybody knows anyway.

Marshall will have several major league offers within 24 hours of getting non-tendered.

Yeah I think the last two months have caused Sox fans to drastically underestimate the trade market for Kimbrel. I'd say > 90% they pick up the option.

If someone is going to offer 31 year old middle infielder a 5 year deal they can have him.

Marshall and Fry are arbitration eligible. So is Goodwin but there's no way they tender him, but I think they'll hang on to the other two.

Yes, and a lot of teams want to win.

2016 was a different year. 2021, with everything that has gone on over the past couple years, wasn't the right time to go all in with this team.

As someone who was a toddler in 2005 and 2008, this is by far the most emotionally invested I've ever gotten in a Sox season. Last year just wasn't at this level. It was largely very rewarding, but the crash at the end hurts much more.

Did you read my first paragraph? I argued that the Kimbrel trade was a bad idea even if he put up a 0.00 ERA after the trade. It was the wrong year to trade for rentals. The Cesar trade was actually the least bad of the ones made because the Sox didn't give up anything of value and someone had to soak up innings at 2B.

So, there would have been bitching? The GM's job is to give the organization the best opportunity to win at least one World Series within the next 3-4 years. It's not the GM's job to choose the path that causes the least bitching by fans on message boards.

My thoughts about the season that just ended and how to proceed: 1) The Kimbrel trade was awful - Not because Kimbrel sucked, or because 5+ years of Madrigal and Heuer were the cost. I didn't feel that way on July 30, but the more I've thought about it the more I've come to believe that the Sox shouldn't have made any trades at the deadline. The MLB postseason is always a bit of a crapshoot. Even more so this year with everybody having played 60 games or fewer last year. Even more so for the Sox with two of the most valuable pitchers from the first half of the season, Rodon and Kopech, having a fairly good chance of wearing down, which is exactly what happened. Kimbrel could have been perfect this series and it wouldn't have changed the outcome. If the Sox had Bryant, or Schwarber, or Gallo, or Escobar instead of Kimbrel it still wouldn't have changed the fact that none of the starting pitchers lasted 3 innings. Sox should have just sat on the roster they had and lived with the results. If they don't think Madrigal is the guy they want at 2B, they still could have traded him in the offseason. 2) There is an organizational coaching problem - This goes beyond the drunk guy in charge, though he certainly didn't make anything better. This team is bad at: defensive positioning, holding runners on, swinging and missing too much, hitting too many grounders, and probably a couple other things I can't think of right now. There needs to be an overhaul in how this team uses data and applies it to how the players are coached. 3) There are too many similar hitters - Eloy Jimenez, Jose Abreu, Andrew Vaughn, and Jake Burger are all right-handed hitters who swing and miss too much, hit too many balls on the ground, and don't provide much defensive value. I don't think upgrading 2B and RF are going to be enough. I think there need to be some trades to diversify the roster. Trading Abreu or Eloy would be tremendously unpopular, and I'm not saying to do it no matter what, but if a really good return can be had, it needs to be seriously considered. 4) Catching is a problem - I'm a big advocate of Grandal's, and while he's proven his bat belongs in the lineup every day, he's just not working out behind the plate. This is a really tough problem to fix as there is a real scarcity of good alternatives. Nearly every available catcher is either bad with the bat, bad behind the plate, or both. Maybe the return on trading one of the guys listed above needs to be a catcher.

I've literally never advocated for retaliating, but there's no reason not to do it here. Who cares if Ruiz is suspended the first five games of next season.

Absent evidence that that input actually happened I'm not going to assume it did.

Can't be just on him though. There have to be other coaches noticing this and not doing anything.