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Ironically Dylan and Dallas have very similar strike throwing profiles. They both avoid the zone, they see heavy contact in the zone, they don't throw a lot of first pitch strikes or generate a lot of swinging strikes. So while I don't necessarily disagree that command it what's holding Dylan back it's clearly possible to be successful with his level of strike throwing.
In the end if you're going to have success you need to generate value with your fastball and that's where Dylan is falling short. The main reason being his fastball has poor horizontal movement. He was 40% below avg in 2020 and 76% below avg in 2019. I don't see command overcoming a more fundamental issue of his fastball being straight and hittable despite the velocity. Additionally he was getting crushed on his change up. Just like the 4-seamer his change up lacks any h-movement. He's clearly not deceptive enough on the delivery and the velocity difference alone isn't fooling hitters. His change is effectively a low 80s meatball.
The good news is he did improve quite a bit on h-movement in 2020 over 2019.
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6 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:
What is the evidence to support this?
Local baseball TV contracts bring in more money than local NBA TV contracts.
And average MLB team has an average revenue of 330 million dollars (2018). The average revenue generated per team in NBA is 291 million (2018).
Not going to try and break down nation vs local revenue. But just about everything google spits back shows the NBA crushes baseball in TV revenue.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1120170/broadcasting-rights-sports-by-league/
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14 hours ago, iWiN4PreP said:
Why can other sports do just fine, but mlb can not?
I think in part the MLB relies on gate revenues a lot more than say the NFL or NBA. The TV deals just aren't as lucrative for baseball teams. In addition the NBA and NFL have set revenue targets the players take home. There's already a baseline if revenue comes in significantly under expectations that players are only entitled to a set percentage. That's clearly where the MLB owners want to go with this, if the players agree to lets say 50% of baseball related revenue (in the event of no fans, this would equate to significant player salary reductions) I'm sure the owners would be pushing to play each and every game.
I don't see games being played until the owners have a set revenue split agreement with the players union. There's too much financial risk for the owners to proceed with a season until they have fully quantified their salary risk. I think this partly goes beyond COVID, the MLB owners have seen the other sports leagues pull this off and they're probably ready to mark their line in the sand and hold out or threaten to reduce the game count until the players fold.
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3 hours ago, WhiteSoxFan1993 said:
I saw this and thought it was interesting. The only way it would have made sense for the Sox to compete with the Mets offer is if he and Grandal were both in the lineup every day as catcher and DH, and I'm not sure McCann was good enough to justify blocking Vaughn. It will suck on the days Grandal is off because I think Collins will be a black hole in the lineup but I don't know how that could have been avoided.
Seeing Tyler Flowers on that list makes me optimistic there's a path forward for a guy like Collins. He has enough power and takes enough pitches to probably become passable offensively. If he can continue to show defensive improvement I'm willing to live the struggles when Grandal needs a day off.
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There's obviously a deal to be made. It's in everyone's best interest to play as many games as possible, if the players aren't willing to agree to some revenue linked salary concessions then the first move on the part of the owners will be to limit games. One would hope there's a middle ground on the salary side that plays the most games possible.
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From a purely resource standpoint spending money on anyone to primarily DH seems like a bad idea. Spend it on pitching and take your chances on filling DH ABs internally. Give the (old) kid a chance.
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4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:
It makes us more than marginally better in 21. But the long term value is definitely much better for the Rangers.
There's an elevated level of risk with a 34 year old. If we're going to spend $10M on a RFer and another $10M for one more back end rotation vet I would have preferred spending top dollar on a TOR arm like Bauer and rolling the dice with Dunning and Engel. To me Lynn is a get to the post season move, its not a WS move. That's why I consider it marginal. This could have been a WS move if we already had another TOR in fold.
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This is a bit of a disappointment if its not part of a broader more aggressive plan. This makes us better in 2021, but only marginally. If you go out and get a guy like Bauer I like this as a final piece. But even with Lynn onboard we're still short a big time arm.
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4 hours ago, Richie said:
It's just not practical, when you boil it down.
Look what happened with Ohtani. Guy hurts himself pitching and now you lose a bat in the middle of your lineup as well. The Angels have been on a downward spiral just about since. It's a good way to cripple a team. The Angels lost their cleanup hitter and ace of the staff (at least, it was shaping up that way) SIMULTANEOUSLY.
It would probably work more often visa/versa as well. The grind of playing a position on 3 or so days in between starts every five -- You're still playing over 100 games as a positional player and then you tack on the starts. Yikes. Good way to wear down and regress at both pitching and hitting. Good way to take a guy who is great at one thing, "good" at another and just make him average all around (if not injured).
It probably doesn't make sense for a guy like Oh tani, but Matt D is a fringe big leaguer. He should be perusing every avenue in bringing value to a team. One roster spot it worth a mediocre bat and arm.
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I've always been somewhat surprised that aren't more guys that play the field/pitch. If you can throw 90+ I'd at least throw some MiLB bullpen innings to see what happens. The roster flexibility of having an extra bullpen arm (even mediocre) would be fairly valuable.
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1 hour ago, greg775 said:
That's why I say this rebuild didn't have to be this painful. Sox could have added some bullpen pieces without affecting the rebuild's key core. Let's face it Sox decided to tank for a few slots in the draft each year and to me that's irresponsible. They still coulda traded Sale and Q and Robertson and acquired Robert and got the main haul for the rebuild. Might not win the division with what we'd have so Hahn decided to suck up and save Jerry and the investors zillions of dollars and line their wallets til we're ready to compete. Makes me mad/sad.
That's exactly what's likely to happen this off-season (big bullpen spend). Just sit back and give it a few months.
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With some many guys injured or coming back from injuries I'd have a hard time ranking them. If Hansen starts pitching well I could see him shoot up people's lists. Overall I've been very pleased with our drafts and the pitching talent we've acquired. Guys like Stephens, Battenfield, Flores & Lambert may not excite people, but I love that we're filling out our system with arms that have a legit shot at making it to the bigs. My guess is at least 1 of the above mentioned guys has more career success than our blue chip arms.
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Tough break for the kid, he was probably on a path to make his big league debut sometime next year. This probably set him back a few years.
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18 minutes ago, DH in the NL said:
He serves a purpose to the tank
He's probably a better option than Giolito right now. That's counter-tank productive.
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48 minutes ago, greg775 said:
I know the Sox brought back MiGo but how often do you re-sign a guy like that? Sounds good in theory but ... I'm just saying if you can't get anything except two prospects who probably won't make it, it's insane to trade Abreu. I mean this trade stuff at some point jumps the shark. I do think Hahn will trade him though. If you trade him, the team that gets him is going to get a superstar who can help them win it all THIS YEAR and next. So YES I'm demanding Hahn get at least ONE sure-fire star for him. Preferably 2 sure fire stars and one top 50 guy. That's how it works. Teams overpay for studs who can help them win it all NOW. Why our fans are demanding less from Hahn SLAYS me. Geez some of you are so kind to the front office of the White Sox. How bout if we trade fan favorite/great chemistry guy Abreu we slay some team and acquire studs not duds??????? If Hahn gets organizational fodder for him and not excellence I just wish we'd fire Hahn.
The flaw in your logic is they're not getting a stud. There's a reason teams won't offer a significant prospect package for Abreu. Defensively limited 1B/DH types are not that valuable. Add to the he fact he's been down right awful offensively in June and there's nothing particularly exciting about a guy like Abreu right now.
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16 hours ago, MnSoxFan said:
Clarkin on DL. Guerrero out of rotation. The 5th to join your first 4 is Tomshaw.
Why in gods name is Matt Tomshaw even in the org?
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Any chance he gets cut at the end of his rehab?
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3 minutes ago, greg775 said:
If that's all you can get, Hahn should be fired for trading him. On the spot. It's not like the Sox are spending any money this season. If that's all there is for an all star why trade him? Dumb.
Getting a offensive focused 1B/DH type on the open market is fairly trivial (and relatively affordable). The Sox are going to be really bad this year and likely only marginally better next year. There's plenty of arguments to be made to trade any piece that's not controlled through 2020 at a minimum If you see Abreu as potential add for the 2020 season we can just go sign him on the open market. Personally I'd much rather spend $10M on a value bat in 2020 then extended/commit long term money to Abreu.
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There's also been talk about Adolfo given the field a try again.
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Looks like Flores, Foster & Thompson are all going to B-Ham.
Robert, Gonzalez, Battenfield, Henzman, Johnson , Rivera to W-S. OF is now even more crowded.
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Just now, fathom said:
Hopefully this gun is slow. If not, 96 has been his max so far.
From my experience watching the Charlotte feed it's usually about 1-2 MPH slow. But the last Jordan Stephens start I watched he was sitting 87-88 so I'm starting to think it might even be a bit slower lately.
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There's nothing overly impressive about Stephens but when you watch him pitch there's never a moment where you feel like he isn't in control. At this point he's definitely #1 on my next man up list.
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I'm a Blake Battenfield believer, I can't wait to actually see the guy pitch.
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I would have a hard time ranking any of the arms we just drafted over Henzman. Dude has been a ground ball dealing machine. Anyone with the ability to get guys to pound the ball into the ground at his rate has a chance at a long big league career.
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I wouldn't spend a dollar on a DH. Spend it on starting pitching and fill DHs ABs internally. I'm content with Leury at DH if we can get a solid vet SP. Between Eloy, Yermin, Vaughn, Collins and Abreu we can fill DH ABs.