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I think it's very cool. The additional park space is good.
That's a lot of additional public space, and I do think a good use of money is to encourage more residences in the loop, which could be a big drag if commercial real estate implodes.
I also may be wrong but I'm not seeing the $2.1 billion price tag that the trib reported from tax payers. Part of the public funds is not included in that, that's a phase 3. Again - I think those investments are better than most.
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1 hour ago, RichieZisk said:
https://x.com/clayharbs82/status/1783189494335758649
Proposed new stadium video.
strengthened synergies between museums made me lol.
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25 minutes ago, JoeC said:
You know - the one thing that I want to give Getz credit for is that "Project Birmingham" experiment he did 2 years ago.
I'm a huge critic of the Sox's minor league development program basically treating the minors like a warehouse rather than a factory... but that Project Birmingham thing, to me, was the right approach. Identify things to work on during games, then shift your focus to developing your game through deliberate practice and training.
But generally, I completely agree with you on this quoted portion.
Fair enough, but there seems to be a weird implication that their coaching across levels wasn't good enough, or wasn't communicating consistent enough. Well, Getz did not overhaul that staff. The turnover was no different than any other year.
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Just now, caulfield12 said:
Walker just got sent down.
That was more his 44 wRC+ than his hilarious defense of the first half of last year.
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3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
Feels like that was 50% Pods and Iguchi and AJ the first half of that season...Crede Rowand and Uribe were already pretty gifted defensively.
I don't remember this really being a KW era thing, but he also had such a veteran team the whole time. But that said, Crede, Beckham, Anderson...all were pretty defense forward from the beginning (I recall?).
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3 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:
Absolutely correct. The Sox haven't been good at fundamentals for years, 2005 and 20212 stick out as them being good in my mind.
Every year you hear the talk about stressing fundamentals in spring training and every year it is the same nonsense.
Personally I think it is a combination of "baseball-stupid" players and staffs that are incapable of teaching them properly and getting through to these guys.
I just don't believe baseball stupid is it. Marcus Semien appeared baseball stupid here.
Omar Narvaez was considered baseball stupid and a terrible defensive catcher, only to have the brewers and mariners work to turn him into a defensive plus catcher before his offense cratered. He's another great example of needing way better offense than expected to stick, but the team doing nothing to make them more well rounded, just ditching them.
I could definitely buy that the Cardinals scout for defense much better than the white sox. But then I also see how they reacted with horror at how bad Jordan Walker was at defense last year in the outfield, and put a full court press on to improve it and he did. He is capable of it because he's young and a good athlete, and no I don't think the cardinals could turn Gavin Sheets into that.
But for all the rest of the guys ... the white sox think that you develop by playing a lot of ball games. But that thesis has failed man. That's not enough, especially when you have so rid yourself of any players who know how to do it differently.
Sorry - Jimmy rollins came in and the damn house of cards nearly fell apart.
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21 minutes ago, Quin said:
To pile on:
It seemed like Lenyn always had to figure out each minor league level himself.
It was a pattern. He'd struggle hard when first promoted, then go on tears.
Is it any shock that the one level that that doesn't work at is the major league level?
I remember, specifically, so probably wrongly, as TA was coming up we had a lot of comments like "he seemed really teachable" as we knew he was so raw but was making a lot of progress at each level. Turns out he was just extremely athletic and talented and able to use his fast hands to get to anything.
And then fast forward and someone interviewed and he was basically like "we just played games until I got to majors." ANd didn't really remembered being coached much to that point.
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3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:
Here's the thing. Lenyn Sosa to some extent IS a success story. The Sox spent $350k on him to sign him out of Venezuela. Look any player that you sign at 16 years old, who gets through your farm system to the major leagues is a success. The thing is, for a kid that is fully a product of the White Sox from literally Day 1, you hope to see a much better grasp of the basics. Look I get the majors are hard, not everyone has the skills to hit at that level, and maybe Sosa figures it out. Maybe he is a 4A guy. That we can still figure out over time. What bothers me is his baseball IQ seems to be minimal. After almost 8 years in our system, there are things you CAN control and fix and that is understanding the game. I hate seeing guy come through the system who have no idea what they are doing. I get them maybe not being able to hit a 98 mph fastball, because that is a physical thing that not many can do. But I do expect them to understand how to think the game and make the right mental choices in a play.
Pretty much every fringe guy we have is asked to come up and rake, because they will be an absolute negative in every other aspect.
And then you break down the hitting and they'll have to absolutely rake by making an insane amount of contact or power, because they come up with no discipline, no concept of pitch selection. They swing a lot in the zone, they swing a lot out of the zone, they swing a lot.
They are all just different flavors of danny palka, except many without the power.
We've seen the As put out horrendous payrolls, we saw the year the padres played like 5 rule 5 selections for half the year. None were as bad as this team is.
The guy in charge, was the guy in charge for getting players ready for the bigs. He may have not been given the talent to be a normal bad team, but I think any other GM from a normal team could have avoided "worst offense in history, even when offenses were bad because they were fighting off symptoms of syphilis and extreme dehydration"
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11 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
I wouldn’t mind if we got our own SoFi Stadium but we aren’t getting a $6 billion dollar stadium.
I dont think price tag is necessary to even build what was built, imo.
This stadium will be really nice. I would like to point out that outside of specifically soldier field, which they mistakenly retrofit into the columns, most of the recent park builds and public construction has been great. The river front if wonderful. Maggie daley park is a gem. Northerly island is great, but sucks to get to. Completely private, but the salt shed has been a huge success and is awesome.
I don't know if they'll get the revenue they asked, but I'm pretty confident that what gets build there will be pretty great.
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1 hour ago, The Beast said:
He may have, but this would only be a tentative agreement. I would have to go back to the Sox stadium thread for the financials, but what we know is they still owe on Soldier Field, Pritzker is not warming on the idea to financing anything but infrastructure to the new stadium and they were using an existing tax to try and get funding for the new stadium. The Bears and Sox both were supposed to provide proposals for public funding so how would this agreement with the city impact the Sox? Lots of questions remain unanswered…and nothing is set in stone until the ink dries and construction begins.
Have teams forfeited picks to other teams or have they just forfeited picks and foregone their draft position? The latter is what I was thinking.
There have been settlements between teams where they agree to compensation in lieu of punishment. That could happen here if the falcons think it would be a lighter punishment (swapping 8 with 11) than what nfl will hand out.
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2 hours ago, Capn12 said:
I'm a Sosa fan, but at some point, he has to show some semblance of a skill set in the bigs. It has basically been the same result, 3 years in a row.
It’s annoying because when these guys come up so much relies on them hitting immediately because they are complete deadweight otherwise. Complete negative players that have to hit 120 wRC* to be above average.
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I think the falcons may get punished more than the vikings "compensated"
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Sunday I get to see the soxtwitter videos of Lenyn Sosa pop-up, another embarrassing rundown where we say "it looks like they've never played baseball before!"
Before we get too far - Lenyn getting where he has today is an incredible accomplishment. He may not be very good, but he was a modest bonus signing that has made it to the big leagues on the strength of his hitting progression. He is by far the best signing of that class, which was highlighted by Josue Guerrero.
Anyway. Sosa signed in July 2 of 2016. Getz took over the following offseason as our Director of Player Dev, and Sosa appeared stateside in Arizona, where he stood out as perhaps the first international signing in like half a decade to not be completely miserable at the plate. He had no power, but he wasn't striking out 60% of the time.
He then spent 5.5 years, slowly climbing the organization. He mostly survived as a young player in older leagues, before breaking out in AA as a 22 year old where he suddenly found power.
He was promptly called up where we all learned that power was all you can really find in the white sox org. You find Power, you find velocity.
Everything else? they are unfindable.
A player for 5.5 years in Chris Getz teachings arrives, where we can see what it's like for someone to be taught the way JR always wanted.
The result? Someone who appears underprepared at the plate, on the field, and on the basepaths.
He goes back and forth between AAA and the big leagues, and it is all the same.
Lenyn Sosa arrived a reported 6'0 and 180 lbs, and stands today at 6'0 and 180 lbs. That's true and also a good metaphor. Despite 615 games since he arrived in Chris Getz teaching, he has very little learned.
I think about this when I read Colson Montgomery reports. The most alien like figure I"ve ever seen arrive in this org. Truly the opposite traits of like every other player. And we see "he'll need to develop if he wants to stay at short".
Well, I'd say lets just hope he survives at 3rd.
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This article was good but also funny how open this week has been that bears are choosing Williams
https://x.com/danwiederer/status/1782047653590884728?s=46&t=9lkBcVJmwvxFpyVi5DNtCg
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Monica’s first year he like took the record for most Ks looking
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Losing Caruso is killer but my guess is he plays in some variety of minutes.
I think Bulls surprise in Miami.
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I once again look at the state of our players, and have to go back to the claims that Chris Getz had Dylan Cease and made him open to trade and said "Dang, we can't just take the best players we can get, we need as much pitching as possible. Our hitters are solid. We just need more pitching"
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definitely at point where I laughed when I saw Salvador's home run.
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18 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:
Sucks - hope it heals ok with no long term effects. That is a rough rehab - presuming he has to lay flat for like 20+ hours of the day for a while.
yikes, didn't realize. Thought you just had to deal with constant flurries and couldn't lift heavy objects. That would suck.
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3 minutes ago, nrockway said:
I basically started posting on this forum because I gave up on the Bulls for the reason the other poster mentioned (and basically the reasons why people in this thread are giving up on the Sox). That team is going to treadmill until 2030 because there's no path for improvement and their idiot GM keeps compounding his bad mistakes. Trading lottery picks for bad, overpaid veterans, trading an all-star starter who you have team control of for a guy who sits on the bench for a year then doesn't get re-signed. Drafting a non-NBA player with the 4th overall pick, declaring him the franchise savior, then watching him flounder for years because the GM can't admit he screwed up. They will re-sign Pat this offseason and cement the Bulls as a 39-43 team for the rest of my life. Just good enough to make the BS play-in and not tank ticket sales, not good enough to actually win anything.
The Bulls may be "better" than the White Sox in relation to their respective leagues, but I actually think the Bulls are in a sorrier state. I could reasonably expect the White Sox to have a good team in 2026, I see no path for the Bulls unless they get really lucky in the draft (that is, if they haven't already traded all their future draft picks away).
They aren't in a sorrier state.
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49 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said:
I don't think the players or Getz "deserve" to be embarrassed. Getz is taking over a team that refuses to spend money and it's coming off a failed rebuild where nearly all the assets lost their value on the trade market. He has very little to work with.
Even Grifol is being paid to be a punching bag while knowing this is his only shot at being an MLB manager.
I think he deserves ridicule for shopping in the DeJong/Pillar/Moustakas/Maldonado buckets instead of taking the opportunity to live in the Rule 5/waiver world where we could get players of similar value but the potential to have long term control.
This year was going to be this year. It was going to be bad. But the Rangers found Adonis Garcia on waivers. The Orioles found Santander in rule 5. I dug into rule 5 this year, it wasn't a good one, but nonetheless we were so worried about pitching and we are getting shut out every game.
Instead we wasted a bunch of roster spots on guy slike lopez/shewmake that put a ton of pressure on our lower level guys to stick and have zero room to breathe. SO we send out Jose Rodriguez.
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29 minutes ago, chetkincaid said:
If a team is going to be bad, then be good at being bad. I don’t want a middle of the road team like the Bulls because that still gives people hope. “All we need is a left handed slugger named Adam and we are golden!”. Nah I want them to be historically bad and lose 120+ games. That way everyone knows that it will take a complete tear down and rebuild to win again.
I'd rather have the bulls.
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Hard to stress how much I'd rather watch Tim Elko at 1st base over vaughn. I don't care that he'd almost certainly K at 45%.
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I actually don't even know. With the bulls it felt like "ok, they embarrass themselves, we can shame them into turning this group over". It was a monkey paw, but it did feel attainable.
With Getz getting the job with a smarmy press conference by JR, there just isn't going to be a way to shame it this quickly. So I hope that, instead, this is just the remnants of how bad it was from a draft and develop standpoint under Hahn. ANd it was. People talk about the draft, but this is also what it looks like when you punt entire International classes for Colas and Yolbert and Cespedes.
But there are some signs of life in the recent draft classes, at least. Paddy has at least appeared to be less lazy, but still too lazy for my liking.
But this amount of shutouts, this level of horrid play. I don't think it's good for anything. Certainly when you don't have a Luhnow or someone overseeing the show.
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Sox looking at building in South Loop
in Pale Hose Talk
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100% they did, and the mayor is standing next to them as they do it.