Balta1701
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2 minutes ago, Tony said:
Guys, I get all of that. I’m not confused by the case. He used a bookie, which is illegal. I understand.
Again, how does that impact what I think of Ohanti? Does anyone think he is a bad person because of this? Ideal situation? No. Not a great look. But if Ohtani decided he wanted to use a small portion of his mega contract to lay big money on an NFL Sunday with a bookie?
I just don’t care.
Not a great look? Violating state law, potentially violating some federal laws (wire fraud, we'll see about obstruction) are things you probably should care about since if Ohtani did anything crossing certain lines himself that could actually cost him part of his playing career while in prison.
If he didn't do any of that, and its the silly sounding story that his interpreter presented, then fine, but I'm happy to let the good people at the IRS and the State of California do their work before I buy that.
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3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:
Well Moose and Pillar were just released and I would bet Grossman is going to Charlotte for the reasons you just gave.
Well this makes a fair amount more sense then.
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8 minutes ago, Tony said:
So if it wasn’t on baseball, say it WAS Ohtani making these bets but it was on the NFL.
Why do I care? It’s his money and it’s not like he’s buying illegal weapons. I’m not saying people are wrong if they care, go nuts…I’m just missing the real intrigue.
Just now, Milkman delivers said:I assume these bets were made through an illegal bookie, not through a sports book. That’s the real difference.
I'm pretty sure that the fact the IRS is in on this already is both the reason why this won't fully go away any time soon and why some semblance of the truth is going to come out, because the government has lots of ways to work on this. Money transfers, failure to pay taxes on $4 millions of earnings would leave a long paper trail.
Also worth noting - Sports Gambling is still illegal in California, so the Los Angeles player or interpreter doing this, whoever it was, was also violating state law. As Tex is in a state where Marijuana is currently illegal and other states have legalized it, I'd assume that situation is comparable.
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1 hour ago, nrockway said:
wasn't one of the biggest complaints about last season that there was no minor league depth? every major league team will deal with injuries and the White Sox were historically bad last season in terms of their call-ups. I'm reminded of this fangraphs article which shows that the Sox opening day roster compiled over 100% of the team's total WAR. as in, the call-ups and trade acquisitions produced negative WAR.
with that in mind, I don't see how it could be viewed as a bad thing for a team to sign a player to a minor league deal who hit .730ish OPS and 10 homers last season. it's sort of like, why wouldn't you do that?
Part of the problem with many of these guys is that if you don't call them up early in the year, they're likely to ask for and be granted their release. The White Sox are such a mess that right now Grossman has a decent shot at a starting OF spot, but you can't call up all of the guys they've signed, there's not enough space for them. Where are they actually playing these guys, how do you decide in the next 7 days if Robbie Grossman is ready to go?
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I am starting to think someone needs to take Chris Getz aside and introduce him to the concept of counting to 40.
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6 hours ago, caulfield12 said:
Would we find the same nonsense from the Rockies and A's coaching staffs?
Mark Kotsay?
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With him already throwing 4 innings today does anyone still want to say that they have confidence he will only be used as an opener?
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4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
Waiting for someone to mention Brian Anderson, haha.
He was excellent in a limited stint in 06, but when Robert is fully healthy Robert has a step or two on him. Robert has a "Spectacular play" level that Anderson did not have.
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29 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:
So I guess there's no obvious reason why Garret Crochet shouldn't get the extra day of rest given his long history as a reliable every time through the rotation starter and innings-eater.
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4 innings for Crochet but I'm sure they'll hold him to a 3 inning limit on opening day.
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Y'all just don't understand the greatness of Maldonado, Crochet wouldn't have had any success in the spring without him.
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48 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:
I would 100% agree with that. All of the AML laws and post 9/11 banking changes were made around knowing exactly who was moving around large sums of money. Really everything over 10k is reportable, as are repeated transfers under individual 10k, but adding up to more than that when they are all added up. I can't see any bank just taking their word for it. I find the idea that Shohei didn't know anything about this the least likely scenario vs he knew and was trying to bail out a buddy, or he was gambling himself.
What are the odds that "a well paid interpreter who is not actually the player himself" (probably a salary in the 6 figures right?) is going to have a bookie willing to let them get on the hook for $4 million in losses?
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22 minutes ago, WestEddy said:
What 2023 says, but also - nobody seems to be trading their top ten in the game prospects. Trading for the #5 top prospect means you're buying at the top of that guy's market. Think Kopech and Moncada. I think the market is shifting to targeting just missed and end of the top 100 guys who will be ascending with a bullet once real games start being played.
Or is just says that elite stuff pitchers who are generally healthy with multiple years of control come available so rarely that there was only one possible one at the deadline last year, and he was in the middle of an underperforming season with a GM asking for the moon so he didn’t move.
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All right help me out.
Nick Nasty.
Solid nickname or too dad joke?
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How dare you doubt the skills of Martin Maldonado
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2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
How many pitches for the no hitter against Detroit I think it was...really pretty cold weather that day as well.
Still...pretty hard to imagine more than a handful of managers pulling him.
And of course they pretty much knew that was going to be his final season with the Sox as well.
Naw, I get not pulling him. That stuff happens, get him the no hitter.
I don't get him throwing 110 pitches 6 days later. Walked 5 in 5 innings that day. That's pushing a guy too hard. I don't get him getting no extra time off in the first half. I don't get him throwing >90 pitches in every start on his list until the 2nd half, including his first start of the year.
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4 minutes ago, WestEddy said:
Your argument that Katz ruined Rodon by not overruling Tony LaRussa and demanding that Rodon not finish his no-hit bid is silly.
Well hey this poster is insisting that Katz clearly will be a key guy in charge of handling Crochet now and so I shouldn't worry. Talk to him, he said earlier that the manager won't be in charge and here you say that the pitching coach clearly wouldn't get to overrule the manager.
20 hours ago, WestEddy said:I'm guessing that Katz and Bannister are making this call, not really Grifol. Or if Grifol decided on it, that was based on very narrow stipulations. He's probably good to go on an inning/pitch limit, and a game/pitch limit. And they'll increase that as they feel he's able to push it.
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28 minutes ago, WestEddy said:
Every day on MLB trade rumors, there's another story about a pitcher going down with arm problems. It seems like that's kind of a risk of pitching. Or maybe 30 organizations are abusing pitchers by making them throw baseballs hard.
Pitchers pitch. If they're healthy, they throw 90-100 pitches a game. Weird how, in 2022, Rodon went to SF, in a system overseen by Brian Bannister, threw 90+ pitches in his first 6 games, and didn't break down. Some of those were with only 4 (gasp!) days rest. Look at his 2022 game logs. Pretend he was pitching on the White Sox that year. Pretend he got hurt like he pretty much did every single year on the White Sox. Now make up an argument about how he was misused. See how fun this game can be?
Seriously, I don't care who you think has credibility or not. You think that a pitcher should take years and years and years to come back from injury, or turn from reliever to starter. I'll stick with listening to the guys who are getting paid to oversee pitching for major league teams, and not an internet guy who complains about every single development.
Yes, absolutely weird how a guy who was injured might get exhausted after 120 innings one year and then be able to throw 178 innings the next year. No one could possibly have foreseen how that might work out. Why, you'd think that muscles get stronger when you use them, but everyone knows that isn't true, muscles get stronger when your elite pitching coach says they are strong.
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30 minutes ago, bmags said:
This is literally the Ja'Marr Chase / Penei Sewell debate and you'll never guess what happened
They were both all pro players and you'd be happy with either of them?
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47 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:
Cease’s spin rate on his 4 seamer was actually higher in 2023 than it was in 2020 & 2019. His slider is mostly the same with 2020 and well above 2019.
I don't think it's as obvious that he was using in 2020, he may well not have been, there's a solid suggestion that he started using it in April of 2021 and then stopped on the day the ban began coming from his game by game spin rates. In 2020 he averaged 2516, in 2022 he averaged 2507, in May of 2021 his 4 seamer averaged 2647 rpm. No other month in his career comes close to May of 2021, it's like he was throwing a different pitch.
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1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:
Cease did?
In his career, his 2 highest fastball spin rate months are April and May 2021. His 2nd lowest is July 2021. Super narrow range in 2022-2023 with the exception of a very low April of 2022. On his last start before the spin rate checks, his fastball spun at 2592 rpm. The next start it was at 2318.
He clearly made some mechanical changes or other types of changes later in the year to account for this drop-off so we see his spin rate recover later in 2021 (just not to the same peak of April), but yes 100% Dylan Cease was using the sticky stuff in April and May of 2021 and he had a 270 RPM drop on the day they started the foreign substance checks.
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10 hours ago, WestEddy said:
So, because you don't "trust" Ethan Katz, you get to spout off insane conspiracy theories? Okay, the moon is made of cheese because NASA has always lied, and they won't come clean about Roswell. I guess we're on that level of discussion, now.
Please go look what happened to the spin rates of Dylan Cease, Lucas Giolito, and Lance Lynn before and after June 15 of 2021. Each of them had a huge spin rate drop starting the exact week of the sticky stuff ban, not matched any other time in their career. Hell I have some of the images in my old attachments on here.
Boy what a conspiracy theory that is to say that giant dropoff in his fastball spin rate that happened on the exact date the sticky stuff ban started was because of the sticky stuff ban.
Rodon, Fwiw, was clean. Keuchel shows no big change in spin rate, but his career also fell apart basically after June of that year, so never was certain about him. The other guys were major sticky stuff users.
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4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
After Kopech, who we can all agree was a "failure by committee, mostly himself" situation, what 2-3 pitchers would we even "blame" on Katz, though?
Bummer...let's see how ATL does with him?
Kelly...he's one of those guys like David Wells who will always pitch better when "inspired" for the Yankees (Dodgers/Cardinals), etc.
Lynn...see Joe Kelly
Keuchel...his results since 2020 would argue otherwise, Hahn was simply wrong to throw money at him when Dallas was the last guy standing in his tier at in that particular FA group
Sing it with me folks, “It’s not Ethan Katz’s fault that the pitching staff collapsed…”
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Grossman hasn't been in camp so I'd guess that at the very least he stays in extended ST and gives the kid a chance in the OF for a couple big league games until they actually consider whether he can take the 4th of job.