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44 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said:
If he's just an arrogant womanizer that really likes to do coke, he's just like most of the rest of the 20 somethings in pro baseball.
Which is why I am hardly the fan I used to be.
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1 hour ago, hogan873 said:
I'm just tired of being frustrated about this team. So, I want to focus on rooting for the players. These guys don't have anything to do with a terrible owner and spineless GM. They're going to go out there and play their asses off, and I'm going to cheer them on. Once games start, even spring training games, it will be easier to do that. Right now, it's too easy to focus on the bad s%*#.
I don't want to be angry and frustrated about how the team is constructed. I want to be angry and frustrated about the performance of the players. Just kidding...sort of. I just want baseball to start.
It's funny how we root for the players when they are the most transient part of the organization, coming and going according to upper business dealings and their own financial situations. Makes me wonder just what we are fans of.
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An inability for the majority of the team to stay healthy, no plate discipline, brainless often idiotic play in the field, no rotation depth, no closer, no 2nd baseman, an unproven manager, and a handful of players who think that just putting on the jersey means they can strut around despite earning nothing.
I don't want to take a whiff of what they're going to pull 85 wins out of.
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Since this team is a dumpster fire, trade away the remaining talent and bring back collared jerseys, drunken broadcasters, and Andy the Clown.
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5 hours ago, Paulie4Pres said:
Sleeping around when you have a wife, or a baby mama, DOES make you a bad dude. It's fucking despicable behavior, and it shows a total lack of respect for women, and your children. Cheating on a significant other is one of the worst betrayals you can commit as a human being. It disgusts me to see so many of you fucking misogynists normalizing this behavior, just because these guys are professional athletes. f*** off.
Thank you! I am totally on board with this take. If this behavior is standard among professional athletes, they might as well put robots on the field because I can't respect what these guys bring to the field as human beings.
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28 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:
While I certainly don't want the Sox to hire Ozzie, nor do I think he's even a legit candidiate, it'd at least be extremely entertaining.
Like slowing down to look at a car wreck type entertaining. Would be quite a fitting way to end what could potentially be JR's last managerial hire.
There will be resounding NO's across the board on this but for this purpose bring in Pierzynski. It would be a car wreck and a final implosion, and it would be glorious.
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So no mea culpas and JR, RH and KW are still at the helm, right?
Anyone know if the doorknobs at Guaranteed Rate are padded? I hope so because one’s gonna hit me in the a** on my way out.
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TLR wasn't a necessary cause for this team's demise. He was a sufficient cause though. Other sufficient causes were the fact that the players themselves don't have the talent or the mental makeup to perform, and can't stay in one piece for any period of time.
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MIchael Kopech
A man barely alive.
Gentlemen, we can rebuild him.
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I am all for optimism but there are only so many times I can dip into that well.
90 wins next year might be possible with a few more stars lining up - that does give you a central title but not a playoff quality team. I am beyond where the hope of backing into the playoffs makes up for enduring the product I have to watch along the way.
Maybe the injuries are in line with the norm these days. However, the abject stupidity these players show at the plate, on the basepaths, and in the field is hardly the norm. Neither is not giving decent effort or showing you even care - when that's the least of what the paying fans are entitled to see. These last couple weeks are an insult. Act like a damn professional player with some pride in what your doing for heaven's sake!!!
At this point, I hate to say it, but W-L aside, I just don't "like" this group of players (I hesitate to call them a team because they sure don't seem to want to do the least thing to honor the White Sox brand).
And then the management and ownership...
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On 9/27/2022 at 1:46 PM, caulfield12 said:
Hahn is so bad he has roughly 1/2 the fan base advocating for a third rebuild as this competitive window was so uniquely disappointing.
Not even the Indians/Guardians pulled the plug so quickly.
I'm sure not in that half. One more rebuild and I start to wonder if I will see another championship in my lifetime.
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I am no TLR fan, but wish him comfort and better health.
In any case TLR was never the root problem. He was the consequence.
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12 hours ago, JoeC said:
Good.
Congrats to the Guardians.
I hope this hurts the soul of every single Sox player.
For it to hurt they have to have some pride in themselves to begin with.
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According to the press release, he is being excused from managing the rest of the season because of a health issue, which apparently is pretty dire.
Ok fair enough, but why hasn’t the team announced exactly *what* the heath issue is? Granted, he is entitled to his privacy but still…
All said, I could care less whether it’s an authentic health issue or an excuse to allow him an easy exit. My beef is that the FO itself is still there.
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5 hours ago, Chimpton said:
They may have had a line-up with power hitters but the tactics and strategy was to not hit for power, and that is where they screwed up. So you can blame the manager and coaches for not using tactics that best suit the players you have.
Excellent point. It was also compounded by the fact that they focused on getting the lumber without worrying about whether they could find a spot for them all in the field. That's what happens when you try to reconstruct a team with a handful of deadline trades rather than commit to a coherent organizational development strategy.
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3 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:
That was Kenny and neither of the players in question were stars if memory serves.
Oh yeah that's right. I seem to remember that the one had some potential but the other was a nothing.
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2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:
Hahn has been the wrong one for the job ever since the Keppinger trade, another guy who just didn't want to play baseball for the Sox, much like Pollock and LaRoche and Cesar Hernandez/Kimbrel.
I think the year that really defined Hahn was the Melky Cabrera/Robertson/Beckham/Bonifacio/can't remember the random junkball catcher (the equivalent of Jorge Fabregas)...that offseason was CLASSIC Hahn at his best/worst.
Let's not forget Zach Duke, the failures of Beckham/Viciedo overhanging the beginning of Hahn and the Jeff Samardzija trade.
That whopper (trade for Shark and then TRYING to resign him but failing) would have gotten HALF the GM's in baseball fired ALONE during that 2014-15 cycle...that eventually led to Frazier as the big ad, the clubhouse implosion (Sale/Drake LaRoche, Ventura not even wanting to be there) and then a little discussed trade with names like Big Game James Shields and Erik Johnson involved.
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5 minutes ago, JoeC said:
I think Martin as the 6th starter is a reasonable plan for a contender.
Yeah but what about for the Sox?
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Cleveland seems to be making a statement going down the stretch that they are now competitively post season viable despite the fact the division is not.
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19 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:
I don't see the point of trading Vaughn for minimal salary relief / flexibility. Couple a few of your wanted veterans (Anderson, Liam, Giolito, Eloy, Lynn) with bad contracts (Moncada, Grandal, Pollock, Leury, Kelly, Diekman).
Dodgers lose $134M in payroll next year if they let these free agents walk (Price $32M, T. Turner $21M, J. Turner $18M, C. Bellinger $17M, Kershaw $17M, Kimbrel $16M and Muncy $13M).
Think they would want Anderson for a year if they aren't signing Trea Turner, Liam replaces Kimbrel. They could DFA or use as bench / backend bullpen players a subset of Grandal, Pollock, Leury, Kelly, Diekman. They might also take Moncada, his $42M for two years is nothing to them. Wouldn't want Hahn making the deal, because he would f*** it up yet again, but a solid TB/CLE type GM might make a great trade with the Dodgers willing to take on big money.
Anymore I could care less about trades, whomever they are. They tried to tear it down already with trades and look where we are. The problem is when you trade to a rebuild you are stuck with grabbing whatever shiny packages are out there and trying to somehow make them work together.
How about this? How about building a damn organization that functions with some sort of coherent philosophy and developmental plan? That doesn’t happen at a trade deadline. It takes a commitment and time, and at least some degree of intelligence.. They haven’t done that and this team from the owner down is quite simply ugly - and an insult.
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51 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:
I go with TWTW followed by Ganas.
Miguel Cairo told Eloy and the rest of the team you either give a s%*# or GTFO before his first game as interim manager.
Tony was the grandparent who spoiled the grandchildren, leaving them with 14 cavities and borderline obesity by feeding them ice cream, cake and pop for 90 days over the Summer.
Miguel is holding players accountable, which hasn’t happened since Ricky Renteria was here. It should have been done much earlier. Your not hearing the “I told Tony we are or are not doing this or I’m just ignoring his ass” quotes you heard from at least a few players last season.
Wow, so it looks like the substitute teacher brought the paddle and a ruler to crack some knuckles. Liking it.
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Well they aren’t mathematically eliminated but I think they are done. What convinced me was when Abreu said the team just needs to believe.
That’s an acknowledgment the players don’t believe. They no longer, at least in their minds, have anything to push for - and that’s curtains.
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3 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:
I’ll be honest. When they got 5 games up, even I didn’t think they’d drop back to .500.
It’s ironic they started that dead cat bounce against a team called the Tigers.
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