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1 hour ago, ShoeLessRob said:
Ah another season of playing short handed and misusing the injured list, White Sox baseball baby!
He'll still be on the IL and we won't be playing short-handed.
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Throughout last season's struggles, it always came back to Tony Larussa, for me. He was a league-wide embarrassment and no one wanted to play for him. If it wasn't his boneheaded pitching decisions, it was his boneheaded lineups. If it wasn't his boneheaded lineups, it was his boneheaded situational awareness. If it wasn't his situational awareness, it was his inability to understand the rules of the game....etc., etc., etc. He wasn't a motivator. He didn't believe in the value of the home run. He was an incredibly poor judge of talent. He ignored the importance of momentum and instead trotted out dog s%*# lineups to rest healthy players.
I fully believe this team is set to rebound strongly and should win the division. A heavy, heavy burden was removed from everyone's shoulders.
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Bummer. Not sure Japan was the best team in this tourney but they won tonight. Looking forward to '26.
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1 minute ago, fathom said:
Thought it was good call. Got a great pitch to hit
He's hitting .154 in the WBC. The hottest man in the tournament was on deck. It was most certainly not a "good call".
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Really, really enjoyed the entire series.
I can't believe JR ran Himes out of town in '90. Such a bad, bad owner.
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2 hours ago, Dick Allen said:
If Montgomery continues to look llike the reincarnation of Cory Seager, and the Sox struggle, TA is definitely trade bait. But if they are winning, I doubt they trade him.
What about the opposite? If TA is playing well and we're looking like a decent team, do we trade Montgomery for help?
I pray we don't.
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39 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:
Sale will absolutely come cheap, Boston would have to eat some contract. He has a total of 47 innings over the past 3 seasons. I'd totally be on the phone if they wanted to eat a ton of the contract.
He has a full no-trade clause and I don't see any way he'd want to come back to Chicago given the drama he dealt with while he was here.
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3 hours ago, ChiSox59 said:
I am not at all surprised you choose to believe that, but there is no way TLR was coming back. They gave him a way to leave without getting fired, and he took it.
This was my stance but after hearing more about what happened via several different reports, it's clear to me that he was indeed called in by his doctors unexpectedly. I was talking to my FIL a couple weeks back, who also has a pacemaker....apparently those things are constantly reporting stats which are somehow or another linked to a monitoring service. My FIL had, in fact, been called in to get checked out due to some things his pacemaker saw going on with his heart. Same thing could have happened with TLR and would explain the abrupt exit just prior to that evening's game.
Regardless, this is the most tone deaf, incompetent franchise in professional sports. The Sox were the laughingstock of the league. DIE HARD fans, like we find on this board, were outraged and pretty much quit watching games, much less attending them. The casual fanbase was MIA. Social media was littered with fan outrage and ridicule. I absolutely REFUSE to believe that none of this made it back to JR.
So they wipe the slate clean, fans' hopes start to slowly return a bit, and then they let us know the old drunk is going to be around the club again?!?!?!?! I mean, really, who tf does that? I had no idea it was possible to misread a situation this poorly. I refuse to believe Grifol had any say whatsoever in this decision....as a leader, it's important for the players, fans, media, and organization to understand that the past is behind us and he's bringing about changes. This completely flies in the face of what a good leader would want to happen.
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23 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:
There's no world in which he's a top 10 prospect in the Sox system
Earlier in the thread, someone said he was #7 in the Giants system so not a real stretch to believe he'd slot top 10 here.
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46 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said:
Does Benintendi have any power left in his bat?
No, which is why Gallo is the clear choice. We don't need a LH slap/gap hitter, we need LH power.
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I'm a White Sox, Bulls, and Titans fan for the big three sports. 2 of my 3 favorite teams are owned by Jerry Reinsdorf and both of those franchises have had enormous, unmitigated FO issues.
When Jon Robinson came onboard as GM for my Titans, we were in a really bad place. He worked wonders by flipping the roster, hiring Mike Vrabel, nailed some late draft picks. He literally turned the franchise around. This was only 7 years ago. Last season we were the number one seed in the AFC.
He was fired earlier this week, despite the Titans being 7-5 and first in their division. To outsiders, it made little sense. To fans, it made a ton of sense. There are holes all over the roster, FA pickups have been disasters, busted draft picks left and right, worst OL in football (even worse than the Bears), etc. The record is smoke and mirrors.
His firing, and Amy Adams-Strunk's comments concerning the firing, REALLY opened my eyes to just how bad of an owner JR is and how embarrassing it is that Rick Hahn still has a job. She demands excellence and improvement, JR demands loyalty. Hahn and KW are so far up JR's ass it's ridiculous. No GM in their right mind would sit idly by while his "masterpiece" of a rebuild was about to be driven off a cliff by Tony LaRussa. But Rick remains. Ridiculous.
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Just trade everyone. At this point, given the signals this franchise and FO have fed us since the TLR hire, just fucking blow it up and let us enjoy our summer without wasting time on this joke of a franchise. The TIME, the MONEY, and the EMOTIONAL CAPITAL hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people have spent on this piece of s%*# franchise is enough. They don't care one bit about us or winning.
It's 2022. We've yet to sign a player to a $100M+ contract. In what world is any team serious about competing have that lil' tidbit on their resume? f*** JR.
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4 hours ago, Balta1701 said:
Baseball's revenues really are through the roof. A team like the White Sox should be able to average a payroll that is roughly $150 million - peaking over $200 million and then staying high for several years in a row. The White Sox have averaged $106 million over the past 10 years. The White Sox have averaged $106 million over the past 5 years (counting 2020). The Phillies have averaged $142 million over the past 10 years and $144 million over the past 5 years.
And that doesn't even get into the absurd valuations of these franchises...especially for a guy like JR who bought 40 years ago for $20M.
I truly despise the man. I never felt that way until he hired TLR. I never liked JR, but I didn't despise him. I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire, now.
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In person, I think #5 just grabs me more than any of the other jerseys. Not so much the uniform, per se, but just as a jersey you see at games or what have you.
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5 hours ago, chw42 said:
Anyone got a link to the press conference?
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Thanks for the link.
Went back and watched and was admittedly encouraged. Pedro didn't seem nervous, spoke convincingly of how he wants to run things, wasn't shy about his embrace of modern baseball and allowing analytics to drive games. Rick was his typical evasive self, including when it seemed Pedro wanted to mention changes in regards to player health they're making to "sports m...." before Rick cut him off.
Considering the last time we had one of these press conferences I was simultaneously enraged and confused, it didn't take much for this to get me excited. That said, I think this guy could be more than "at least he's not Tony".
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On 11/1/2022 at 2:21 PM, Dominikk85 said:
I think sports science basically hasn't made any progress in injury prevention. There are a lot of theories and methods but especially on the pitching side nothing has worked. Sometimes a team will have a period of 2-3 years with good health and people think they have the code cracked and then everyone gets injured in 3 months, I think that is more pure coincidence.
Evidence for that is that even the smart teams like the dodgers and rays have tons of injuries, nobody has cracked the code.
Sure there are factors like player age and injury history affecting injuries but there is really nothing yet that can be done that really works.
Baseball really just is having depth and then also hoping for some luck in the injury department, every team loses players but you hope to be it on the lower side
I don't know, man....Herm Schneider kept us one of the healthiest team in baseball on a pretty consistent basis. A guy who probably didn't pay much attention to the all the new science but spent 40 years honing his craft by learning which stretches were best, treatment effectiveness, etc. Every team is going to have injuries, that's unavoidable, but Herm's record is amazing. Especially when everyone and their brother were tearing their UCLs....Sox had limited instances under Hermie.
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Were you in a Chicagoland hospital a few months back by any chance, Lip, sharing all of this with a hospital employee? 😁
There are some things that just don't make sense to me, which could be a matter of folks injecting their own narratives into what they tell you. For instance, you've got one source saying Moncada spent all his time at Jose's locker and another source saying Moncada has his money and doesn't care about results any longer. Unless we're to believe that Jose, clearly an influential person to Yo and a clubhouse leader, let "his guy" just perform poorly and not say anything to him about his performance, these two sources' stories just don't jibe, imo.
Regardless, interesting insight and really punctuates just how rudderless of a ship this franchise is. Whomever owns this team next, I sure hope they do a full housecleaning.
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8 hours ago, Sarava said:
Rick Hahn claimed in the press conference that White Sox ties is 'not something were looking for at this time'. I guess we will soon find out if he was lying.
I don't think "lying" is appropriate...more like "find out if he was overruled...again".
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I've never gotten the impression Thome is an especially intelligent guy. It follows he would have little to no reliance on data helping to steer his managerial decisions; he would be another "gut" manager. Of all the names we've heard, some much more unimpressive than others, Jim Thome shouldn't just be at the bottom of the list, he shouldn't even be on the list.
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On 10/10/2022 at 11:20 AM, southsider2k5 said:
This is how I understood it. The Sox contract the company, and the company does the hiring and paying.
That's not an excuse. When that contract was negotiated, the Sox had enormous leverage to include worker compensation requirements.
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10 hours ago, palehose1 said:
se the posted prices significantly but they add sales tax separately. Add in a tip and a beer that was $11 "all in" a year ago is now $15. I understand inflation but I also can identify greed to. I spent less during my ballpark visits in 2022 than in the past.
I get trying to make each season profitable but, let's be honest, with few exceptions we see the biggest gains in franchise value through simple asset appreciation. Reinsdorf and company bought this team for $20M....it's now worth (conservatively) $2billion. And they want to stick it to the fans after a b.s. season? They want to whine about payroll? Here's a helpful hint to ol' Jerr...you're about to die soon. If you want this team to climb in value on your way out the door, get to spending and improve your product. Build the fanbase, increase the TV deals, sell more STs. Dicking over fans while your initial investment has grown nearly 10,000% over the past 40 years is just disgusting, especially given the lack of competitive seasons this franchise has mustered over the decades under Reinsdorf.
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Expectations suck so much because they tend to draw you in, instill empty confidence, and always leave you believing things will eventually turnaround. No matter how frustrated I became throughout the season, I just couldn't resist watching or tuning in to listen to games...only to be left asking myself why I chose to subject myself to more misery, anger, and frustration. I just couldn't shake off the expectations that not only the org set for themselves, but that I set based on this roster and previous performance.....Charlie Brown and the football situation.
Alas, next spring I'll fall right back into the same trap. I'll blame the weather for underperformance. Or maybe it's an umpires fault. Or maybe I'll believe someone is playing hurt. No matter the cause, I'm a White Sox fan and therefore a masochist. Maybe things will go our way next season? I know I'll be watching/listening to find out!
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14 hours ago, The Kids Can Play said:
Off their radar if they are smart and have other options!
Veteran stud winning manager might have a checklist like this to examine the Sox organization:
1. Smart and aggressive spending owner willing to do whatever it takes.
2. Intelligent and successful GM
3. Strong farm system to pull talent up from
4. Solid roster
5. Team is strong on fundamentals
5. Team is strong defensively
6. Solid starting pitching rotation
7. Solid bullpen
8. Team is strong in producing runs by solid hitting, base running and power.
9. Team hustles on every play
10. Front office is into modern day analytics and has a large staff to support modern day baseball metrics
11. Organization seems to have a strong medical and training staff.
I'm not quite sure one single criteria above, or very few get checked off for a veteran, winning and successful baseball manager.
#1 and #2 pretty much sum up why a stud winning manager won't be excited for this job!
Why would this hypothetical team be looking for a new manager? I mean, you're describing a world class, winning org.
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6 minutes ago, bmags said:
I'm assuming a quality GM has an actual ability to use information not available to me. But I don't quibble with the idea the roster largely needs to move forward, I put forward my "eat s%*# and deal with it" roster that I do think gets them to the playoffs because I still cannot imagine Grandal and Moncada being this bad, but it is deeper, and I don't have the benefit of all the salary amounts yet but I figured this was about the same salary range as this year.
I appreciate that you acknowledge that Hahn's decisions are of the same level as a fan with only an ability to search fangraphs and baseball savant, but despite me actually being a big Canha fan, I'd have chosen neither. Last offseason I set a number of things the sox needed to balance to compete with the Astros, and acquiring a right-handed hitting LFer just did not fit on the list.
I point out that there were a number of outfielders that moved teams last year and he chose among the worst one (he didn't go after Castellanos! Yay). I didn't even bring up a Starling Marte, whom WAS someone he couldn't get with Jerry as an owner.
How much of a role do you think our managerial situation had to do with not only the contracts we DID sign (trade for) but our lack of FAs coming to Chicago? Do you think free agents were lining up to play for TLR...a big selling point for the FO?
2023 Predictions
in Pale Hose Talk
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I really have no idea what the hell is going to happen this season. End of April, regardless of record, if we've hit more than 30 dongs, I'll be very optimistic about winning the division. If not, especially if <20, I won't be spending much time on this team.
I know it sounds ridiculous to put so much emphasis on the long ball but this team was built to slug. The slap-happy 1920's style of baseball isn't going to win games in 2023, just as it didn't in 2022.