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Chris Getz - 2024 Players Acquisition Tracker
Pitchers:
- Erick Fedde: 5.29 xERA | -0.1 fWAR
- Mike Soroka: 6.96 xERA | -0.3 fWAR
- Chris Flexen: 6.46 xERA | 0.0 fWAR
- Jared Shuster: 2.55 xERA | 0.1 fWAR
- Steven Wilson: 2.43 xERA | 0.2 fWAR
- John Brebbia: 7.27 xERA | 0.0 fWAR
- Tim Hill: 5.28 xERA | 0.0 fWAR
- Bryan Shaw: 7.41 xERA | -0.1 fWAR
- Dominic Leone: 8.27 xERA | -0.5 fWAR
Hitters:
- Martin Maldonado: -53 wRC+ | -0.7 fWAR
- Nickly Lopez: 47 wRC+ | -0.1 fWAR
- Paul DeJong: 145 wRC+ | 0.5 fWAR
- Braden Shewmake: 13 wRC+ | -0.3 fWAR
- Dominic Fletcher: 73 wRC+ | -0.1 fWAR
- Kevin Pillar: 98 wRC+ | 0.1 fWAR
- Robbie Grossman: 70 wRC+ | -0.1 fWAR
So adding it all up, Getz added 16 players to the roster and through 21 games has been able to get -1.4 fWAR from them. Just for fun, these guys are on pace to provide roughly -11 fWAR on a straight line basis. That is beyond Rick Hahn levels bad.
Fire Chris Getz and bring in someone who has actually accomplished something beyond just snitching out the past incompetent regime!
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For those whose eyes are sensitive to the color blue, I highly recommend not looking at Vaughn’s Statcast page. Continuing to trot him out there day after day and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. Just wild this org couldn’t figure out how to turn a top 5 pick, bat only prospect into even a league average hitter. But alas, he’s been 25% below league average since July of last year and has shown zero signs of ever being a positive value player.
Not only would I send his ass to down AAA, but I’m make him dominate in that bandbox before even considering calling him up again. Until then, Sheets get a make or break opportunity at 1B and Eloy gets the DH at-bats. That opens up RF for a DeLoach or Colas platoon with Pham and Fletcher as the primary CF while Robert. No more Gavin Sheets in the OF unless every other viable option is actually injured.
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4 minutes ago, fathom said:
Fletcher has been absolutely awful, but no one notices because others have been so much worse. Everything is terrible with this franchise.
It’s too bad that Getz was forced to use old Hahn scouting reports when he made that trade. Hopefully in a year or two Chris will have replaced all our pro scouts with some of Watson’s old Royal lackeys and will be able to formulate his own opinions on player acquisitions. Until then, everything is Rick Hahn’s fault!
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7 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:
Can someone summarize what this article says? Unable to access it.
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2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
I asked why Sheets was playing RF in Spring Training and one poster said that it didn’t matter, it’s only ST. I responded you know stupid Grifol is going to play Sheets in RF during the regular season sooner or later.
Unfortunately they can’t play him at 1B because the team captain with his 75 wRC+ since last July has that position on lockdown.
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7 minutes ago, Rusty said:
Didnt Pedro just say he was pitching Friday? What in the actual f*** is this guy doing?
Unfortunately we’re at the point in the season where Grifol is going the do the desperate dumb s%*# and not just the normal stuff he does. And it’s scary what the repercussions could be.
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6 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:
He's touching 95 but he's getting lit up because he doesn't have a put away pitch and throws it down broadway too often. There was nothing in his minor league numbers that suggested he'd have much success.
All fair criticisms…but pure velocity isn’t the problem here.
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3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
Well, his straight 94 mph pitches are absolute meat to these mediocre Twins hitters.
Critique the stuff by all means…I’m just saying his velocity has been as good as advertised.
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Chris Getz should be legit embarrassed for building an “all glove” positional group and still playing Gavin Sheets in RF. He’s a fucking clown no different than the two clowns that hired him in the first place. If he wasn’t the front office snitch, he would have been fired alongside them and wouldn’t have the one poster here creaming his pants every time his name is mentioned.
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What am I missing on the velocity whining? Cannon is sitting over 95 mph on his four seamer today, while his sinker is at 93 mph.
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8 minutes ago, fathom said:
Did Lopez win a contest to bat leadoff? I don’t get it at all.
I’m serious when I say this, but if I were GM I’d immediately fire my manager if he ever slotted Nicky Lopez in the leadoff spot. Zero chance there isn’t a better option, even on a historically bad offense.
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33 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:
You could bench him until he’s had enough and retires, don’t think he gets paid in that situation.
I think the better play is to start providing his son Blake access to the clubhouse and then do a bait and switch. At a minimum Pham won’t tolerate that s%*# and can be a catalyst for action. Just got to hope that someone would be willing to quit and forgo all that money over something so stupid.
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What argument is there for keeping him up? I may have been drunk when I created this thread, but the point holds true sober. This kid is broken and some minor league development can’t hurt (even if four years too late).
Also, Sheets is almost certainly just on a hot streak, but why not give him a month and find out without having to play him in RF? If he fails, just reverse course in a month.
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I’m sorry but it’s officially fucking time. Literally nothing to lose by doing so.
Flame away!
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Cannon starting on Monday
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16 minutes ago, Capn12 said:
Annnnnnnd....Maldonado is back in the starting lineup.....because why not?
Appears that he’s Crochet’s personal catcher unfortunately
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13 minutes ago, BamaDoc said:
https://www.mlb.com/prospects/stats/affiliates?teamId=145&date=04/19/2024
https://www.milb.com/scores/all/all/whitesox
Iriarte for Bham. It is early but I have been pleased with some pitching. Hitting though......... 6 Kannapolis starters yesterday were .200 batting avg or less. 7 for Winston Salem.
That Kannapolis lineup is atrocious and should be immediate proof this is not top 5 farm system. But lot’s of good pitching, a fun Birmingham lineup, and then few quality positional guys elsewhere (Montgomery, Gonzalez, Zavala).
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Realistically we are likely looking at a rotation like this next year:
- Crochet
- Nastrini
- Thorpe
- Cannon
- Eder/Iriarte/FA
I just don’t see a need for Fedde unless no one is willing to pay up for him at the deadline. If not, he’s a quality, cheap depth option to push the young kids next year.
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1 hour ago, oldsox said:
Fedde signed a 2-year deal, so there is value there. Value for Sox, that is.
There is value to the Sox, but the reality is he is more valuable to a team in the midst of a post-season run and we can always sign a veteran next offseason to the fill void. If you can get a nice prospect or two for him at the deadline, you definitely do it.
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4 hours ago, maxjusttyped said:
Semien is probably the best comp of walk rate/strikeout rate/age plus both guys were middle infielders with questionable defensive futures. But somehow prospect analysis was at a point in 2013 where a 22 year old putting up a 167 wRC+ in AA wasn't on top 100 prospect lists, lol.
Semien’s AA season was insane offensively…only if we could have developed his defense some maybe we would have kept him.
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I’m assuming we see Thorpe, Pallette, & Batista today, which is a nice set of arms going.
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10 hours ago, maxjusttyped said:
I genuinely cannot remember the last high end Sox prospect with elite OBP skills. I will take one guy who needs to be a little more aggressive over the dozens who swing way too much.
Moncada and Semien
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On 4/16/2024 at 11:24 PM, TaylorStSox said:
I feel like Bauer got fucked because he's a hipster jock that doesn't like other jocks, and he wasn't scared to call MLB out on their s%*#.
Is this a real take?
Fedde linked to Giants...?
in Pale Hose Talk
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No doubt, but you have to give them a chance to fail before you go out and purposely block them. Again, I’m not against having a veteran in the mix (we probably should), but if Fedde can return a legit positional prospect at the deadline that can help soon, then you make the trade and sign a vet in FA next offseason if necessary. Given where we’re at, he’s more valuable to a playoff contender than he is to us.