southsider2k5 Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:30 PM) @CSNHayes 10s Believe #WhiteSox were outbid. Also heard they wowed Luis Robert w/ video presentation from Renteria/Moncada/Abreu. bit.ly/2pWFhDj Wow How lucky can you get? This is a huge step forward in a group that needs all of the positional talent it can get. The Cuban pipeline and being a player friendly organization really did work out for them. Kudos to Hahn and the front office, now it is time to pray it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 This is where the Sox hiring Hector Santiagos brother for that culture coordinator position will hopefully pay off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 20, 2017 -> 08:46 PM) Fath, you buying in at all? To? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (Real @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:44 PM) Hahn got his guy. Just hoping the minor league coaches can do their jobs grooming all these new prospects. I think past problems were more to do with bad draft picks and not bad development. Can't polish a turd, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:46 PM) How lucky can you get? This is a huge step forward in a group that needs all of the positional talent it can get. The Cuban pipeline and being a player friendly organization really did work out for them. Kudos to Hahn and the front office, now it is time to pray it works. Sounds like preparation met opportunity. Kudos to the FO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Via Colleen Kane: 29s White Sox announce they've traded minor-league pitcher Alex Katz to Orioles for 2 international bonus pool slots worth $756,300 total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Colleen Kane said we traded for more intl FA budget ThIs period to save on tax. Pretty smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ May 20, 2017 -> 04:46 PM) This is where the Sox hiring Hector Santiagos brother for that culture coordinator position will hopefully pay off. Wait, did they really do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ May 20, 2017 -> 02:47 PM) I think past problems were more to do with bad draft picks and not bad development. Can't polish a turd, lol. Gordon Beckham, Aaron Poreda, Courtney Hawkins, Jared Mitchell, don't make me go back to the decade prior to those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ May 20, 2017 -> 08:50 PM) Colleen Kane said we traded for more intl FA budget ThIs period to save on tax. Pretty smart. Smart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ May 20, 2017 -> 01:47 PM) To? Leury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (ypres @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:51 PM) Wait, did they really do that? Yep, look up Anthony Santiago. Came up in a few offseason interviews on Moncada and getting him comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:50 PM) Exactly. I get what SS is saying, but have to give the FO a lot of credit here. They focused in on an angle no one else could sell, and hit a HR. I have said all along the Sox have a great case to make to Robert. I will be curious what the monetary difference in bids was though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (Real @ May 20, 2017 -> 08:51 PM) Gordon Beckham, Aaron Poreda, Courtney Hawkins, Jared Mitchell, don't make me go back to the decade prior to those. Saw a BA chat yesterday that once scouts saw Hawkins play in the minors in 2013, they knew he was a wasted pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 When can he be expected start playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ May 20, 2017 -> 01:52 PM) Saw a BA chat yesterday that once scouts saw Hawkins play in the minors in 2013, they knew he was a wasted pick Ala Trouble with the Curve. Pun, intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Hopefully the Sox start prepping for the 2020 INTL class, I know scouting 13/14 year olds is frowned upon by the Leauge Office but its what's best for the org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 20, 2017 -> 08:51 PM) Leury A little bit, yes. See no reason he can't be at least a 2 WAR player and could be a super sub on a contending team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthSide2004 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (daggins @ May 20, 2017 -> 08:36 PM) Also if that is true it seems pretty unlikely they trade Abreu. Honestly, I think it probably makes sense to keep Abreu and make him our DH. I think there would be teams willing to trade for him, but I think what he brings to the clubhouse and on the field would be more valuable than those prospects. So with that said, here's my projected 2020 lineup: 1B: Pavin Smith (2017 1st round pick) 2B: Yoan Moncada SS: Tim Anderson 3B: Josh Donaldson (2018-19 free agent) LF: Juan Soto (Robertson trade) CF: Luis Robert RF: Clint Frazier (Quintana trade) DH: Jose Abreu C: Zack Collins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (Real @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:51 PM) Gordon Beckham, Aaron Poreda, Courtney Hawkins, Jared Mitchell, don't make me go back to the decade prior to those. Are you saying these players would have developed in another teams farm system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ May 20, 2017 -> 02:55 PM) Are you saying these players would have developed in another teams farm system? you mean a farm system not ranked in the bottom 10 of the league? is that a real question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (SouthSide2004 @ May 20, 2017 -> 01:55 PM) Honestly, I think it probably makes sense to keep Abreu and make him our DH. I think there would be teams willing to trade for him, but I think what he brings to the clubhouse and on the field would be more valuable than those prospects. So with that said, here's my projected 2020 lineup: 1B: Pavin Smith (2017 1st round pick) 2B: Yoan Moncada SS: Tim Anderson 3B: Josh Donaldson (2018-19 free agent) LF: Juan Soto (Robertson trade) CF: Luis Robert RF: Clint Frazier (Quintana trade) DH: Jose Abreu C: Zack Collins I'd be muy happy with that... Rutherford and Frazier are a toss up to me from NY. Would fall in love with Hahn / Rizzo if we got Soto for D-Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (SouthSide2004 @ May 20, 2017 -> 01:55 PM) Honestly, I think it probably makes sense to keep Abreu and make him our DH. I think there would be teams willing to trade for him, but I think what he brings to the clubhouse and on the field would be more valuable than those prospects. So with that said, here's my projected 2020 lineup: 1B: Pavin Smith (2017 1st round pick) 2B: Yoan Moncada SS: Tim Anderson 3B: Josh Donaldson (2018-19 free agent) LF: Juan Soto (Robertson trade) CF: Luis Robert RF: Clint Frazier (Quintana trade) DH: Jose Abreu C: Zack Collins Jose is the last guy we need to worry about moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthSide2004 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 20, 2017 -> 08:52 PM) I have said all along the Sox have a great case to make to Robert. I will be curious what the monetary difference in bids was though. I doubt it will end up being very significant, but obviously just speculation on my behalf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (SouthSide2004 @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:55 PM) Honestly, I think it probably makes sense to keep Abreu and make him our DH. I think there would be teams willing to trade for him, but I think what he brings to the clubhouse and on the field would be more valuable than those prospects. So with that said, here's my projected 2020 lineup: 1B: Pavin Smith (2017 1st round pick) 2B: Yoan Moncada SS: Tim Anderson 3B: Josh Donaldson (2018-19 free agent) LF: Juan Soto (Robertson trade) CF: Luis Robert RF: Clint Frazier (Quintana trade) DH: Jose Abreu C: Zack Collins Yeah for Pavin Smith! Need a Wahoo on this team for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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