bmags Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 10 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Maybe Graeme Stinson is someone that could slip to the 2nd RD for us. So far, Adley is the only player who a FV above 50, as he sits at a 60 FV. That would make Adley the best offensive draft prospect since 2016's Corey Ray had a 60 FV. And if you put Madrigal in this year's class, he would slot in #2 behind Adley with a 55 FV. Are you using "offensive" as a descriptor for position player or literally offensive rating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 11 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Maybe Graeme Stinson is someone that could slip to the 2nd RD for us. So far, Adley is the only player who a FV above 50, as he sits at a 60 FV. That would make Adley the best offensive draft prospect since 2016's Corey Ray had a 60 FV. And if you put Madrigal in this year's class, he would slot in #2 behind Adley with a 55 FV. Those goofs were incredibly out over their skies on Madrigal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 https://twitter.com/PBRFlorida/status/1103093169506435073 Video of Riley Greene. Not sure how to post from twitter. God I love this kid's swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 14 hours ago, bmags said: Are you using "offensive" as a descriptor for position player or literally offensive rating? Position player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 22 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Those goofs were incredibly out over their skies on Madrigal. Not sure what you mean, Harold. Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 It means they misevaluated him. He's not a 55. He's a 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Alan 1:44 Too early to be asking draft intel on teams? Hearing anything with the White Sox at #3? Kiley McDaniel 1:44 Hearing Vaughn and Misner, so seems like they're still leaning college bats, as they have in past years (Zack Collins, Jake Burger, Nick Madrigal) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, bmags said: Alan 1:44 Too early to be asking draft intel on teams? Hearing anything with the White Sox at #3? Kiley McDaniel 1:44 Hearing Vaughn and Misner, so seems like they're still leaning college bats, as they have in past years (Zack Collins, Jake Burger, Nick Madrigal) Gosh that's shocking. Anyway, are people talking about Vaughn as a serious option for KC at 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Just now, Balta1701 said: Gosh that's shocking. Anyway, are people talking about Vaughn as a serious option for KC at 2? I haven't heard/read any intel yet on KC. Probably because it's so early still. At this point, looking at draft tendency/trends might be our best bet if we are trying to glean something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I think grain of salt is required here. On one hand, with the sox record you should place a high likelihood of a college position player as a pick. Lets say 66% But on other hand kiley and eric have been off on the sox specifically. They had them on Swaggarty last year and Singer, and Kendell the year before that (along with jb bukauskas rumors). It has been college picks, it has not been what they've said. Sox scouts are probably easy to pick out of the big college players now, where a trip to columbia, mo and nashville are easy for F.O. to make the trips to see a bunch of talent than sending them to high school tournaments where it may be less of an all in one trip. But...it's probably vaughn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, bmags said: I think grain of salt is required here. On one hand, with the sox record you should place a high likelihood of a college position player as a pick. Lets say 66% But on other hand kiley and eric have been off on the sox specifically. They had them on Swaggarty last year and Singer, and Kendell the year before that (along with jb bukauskas rumors). It has been college picks, it has not been what they've said. Sox scouts are probably easy to pick out of the big college players now, where a trip to columbia, mo and nashville are easy for F.O. to make the trips to see a bunch of talent than sending them to high school tournaments where it may be less of an all in one trip. But...it's probably vaughn. I'm in love with Vaughn right now. But I'm not sure it's love love, or just the comfort that he's probably the least fuck-up-able from a player development standpoint (Assuming Adley is gone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, DirtySox said: I'm in love with Vaughn right now. But I'm not sure it's love love, or just the comfort that he's probably the least fuck-up-able from a player development standpoint (Assuming Adley is gone). I love him and think he’s a great fit for what the Sox need going forward. I totally get not drafting for need....but I see the importance for it given how this offseason has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, fathom said: I love him and think he’s a great fit for what the Sox need going forward. I totally get not drafting for need....but I see the importance for it given how this offseason has gone. Yea. The need and fit is evident. 1B will be open. He shouldn't need tons of development time. The hit and power tools aren't in question. The batting eye is extremely sexy. Lord knows the Sox need some high OBP players. He wouldn't be a reach at #3 either. Also, an aside. I know scouts think he's pretty much 1B only, but in the recent Baseball America article, Vaughn expresses confidence in the ability to play a 3B or OF. Probably a small chance that happens, but might be worth mentioning. Edited March 6, 2019 by DirtySox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, fathom said: I love him and think he’s a great fit for what the Sox need going forward. I totally get not drafting for need....but I see the importance for it given how this offseason has gone. For me it's not about need or anything like that. It's just being scarred from sox drafting these college bats that don't improve as they progress, just stay the same so they end up in AAA as less productive versions of their college selves. But there is a whole lot of vaughn that screams he will be an outlier, just nervewrecking there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 12 hours ago, DirtySox said: Yea. The need and fit is evident. 1B will be open. He shouldn't need tons of development time. The hit and power tools aren't in question. The batting eye is extremely sexy. Lord knows the Sox need some high OBP players. He wouldn't be a reach at #3 either. Also, an aside. I know scouts think he's pretty much 1B only, but in the recent Baseball America article, Vaughn expresses confidence in the ability to play a 3B or OF. Probably a small chance that happens, but might be worth mentioning. If Vaughn can play 3B or LF, I am all-in on him. Really not hoping a 1B-only guy is the 3rd best player available come June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jack Parkman Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Gosh that's shocking. Anyway, are people talking about Vaughn as a serious option for KC at 2? I think that it is likely that the Royals go with Witt or Abrams due to them being farther away from having a critical mass of prospects. I think Vaughn will be there for the Sox. It isn't unlikely, actually, that Witt and Abrams could go 1-2 and Rutschman could fall into the Sox lap, just because of how far away the 2 teams ahead of the Sox are from competing. I didn't think of that until recently. Edited March 7, 2019 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Draft chat today with BA in like 30 minutes. Get those questions in! https://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/?1551967050 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: I think that it is likely that the Royals go with Witt or Abrams due to them being farther away from having a critical mass of prospects. I think Vaughn will be there for the Sox. The Royals took five college arms in the first two rounds last year, I’m not sure I agree with your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I would be very surprised if Vaughn or Adley aren’t available at 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, fathom said: I would be very surprised if Vaughn or Adley aren’t available at 3 If Rutschman is available, that might be the easiest decision the Sox front office has ever made. The September losses were glorious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, flavum said: If Rutschman is available, that might be the easiest decision the Sox front office has ever made. The September losses were glorious. I would love for both Baltimore and KC to get cute with money, cutting deals to have monetary flexibility etc. Adley is the dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Draft chat has started for those that are interested. https://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/?1551967050 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, DirtySox said: I would love for both Baltimore and KC to get cute with money, cutting deals to have monetary flexibility etc. Adley is the dream. I caution you, we said that about Rodon too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) Quote Carlos Collazo: A lot of Andrew Vaughn questions for good reason, so I'll tackle them all here. A month ago I would have told you that the only player in consideration to go 1-1 was Adley Rutschman, but based on the conversations I've had lately with guys who've seen Vaughn, there's a legitimate shot he could go there as well. I'd still consider Adley the favorite to get picked first because he has a great track record of hitting AND plays a position of value, but if Baltimore wants the best hitter and doesn't care about position? Sure, go for Vaughn. I don't think it would be crazy, though it would be one of the more unusual first overall picks recently simply because of the profile. I don't think he is going to play third base at the next level. He's a first baseman for me, and while he's not going to be an Evan White defender there I think he could be just fine. Just going off the numbers, Vaughn has been a better hitter than Bregman and Senzel in college and he's comparable to Bryant but with fewer strikeouts. I actually had an evaluator recently say he's on a Bryant-like tear, so that's a great call to bring him up. Quote Cwill (Chicago): Who do you think the Whitesox will draft Carlos Collazo: It's early, but one of Adley Rutschman/Andrew Vaughn/Bobby Witt/C.J. Abrams. Quote Walt (UCSD): Can you foresee Andrew Vaughn slipping to the Padres at 6th, given that the industry is low on 1B only prospects. Carlos Collazo: No. I would be shocked if he got passed the White Sox at three. I think his bat is special enough that people aren't going to care much that he's a first baseman. Edited March 7, 2019 by DirtySox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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