Dominikk85 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 hours ago, bmags said: I think this is a bit crazy. Certainly TA is an amazing success story, but Yoan was in AA and coming off a disastrous mlb stint. Eloy was in A ball. Robert was 19 playing in a watered down Cuban League. And they all made it and have all been successful hitters. No matter how polished you think Vaughn and Madrigal are, they made it to the bigs and Vaughn did so whilst being developed with no minor leagues. And add to that, Engel was a bad college hitter drafted in the 20th round who made it to the bigs and has become a productive player. Mendick was a teens mlb pick now an mlb player. Even Leury, he was a defense first, nothing offensive player that was transformed into an MLB depth piece when used right. Jake Burger doing what he's doing in AAA makes him now one of the better batters selected in the last 20 picks of the first round in 2017. Granted Nick Pratto has been pretty good in AA now, and that Evan White 28 wRC+ looks sexy. Yoan was the top prospect in baseball and eloy was a top20 prospect when they got him, certainly neither was a raw prospect and both posted a 900 ops in their last non sox Milb season. I definitely feel better when the sox get more polished prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said: Yoan was the top prospect in baseball and eloy was a top20 prospect when they got him, certainly neither was a raw prospect and both posted a 900 ops in their last non sox Milb season. I definitely feel better when the sox get more polished prospects. The white sox did a hell of a lot more to develop Yoan Moncada than the Red Sox did 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 I think unless there is a major fall, the sox will take Adrian Del Castillo. There is a familiarity with him as they drafted him previously in the 36th round and have taken Collins out of the same program; Grandal is from there as well. Sox have proven track record of taking questionable defensive catchers and spinning them into serviceable and beyond (Flowers, Phegley, Stewart, Narváez, and Collins). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 4 hours ago, beautox said: I think unless there is a major fall, the sox will take Adrian Del Castillo. There is a familiarity with him as they drafted him previously in the 36th round and have taken Collins out of the same program; Grandal is from there as well. Sox have proven track record of taking questionable defensive catchers and spinning them into serviceable and beyond (Flowers, Phegley, Stewart, Narváez, and Collins). Please no. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 1. Pittsburgh Jordan Lawlar SS Jesuit College Prep 2. Texas Marcelo Mayer SS Eastlake HS 3. Detroit Jack Leiter RHP Vandy 4. Boston Henry Davis C Louisville 5. Baltimore Kahlil Watson SS Wake Forest HS 6. Arizona Jackson Jobe RHP Heritage Hall HS 7. Kansas City Kumar Rocker RHP Vandy 8. Colorado Brady House SS Winder-Burrow HS 9. LA Angels Ty Madden RHP Texas 10. NY Mets Sal Frelick OF Boston College 11. Washington Colton Cowser OF Sam Houston St 12. Seattle Matt McClain SS UCLA 13. Philadelphia Jud Fabian OF Florida 14. San Francisco Bubba Chandler RHP North Oconee HS 15. Milwaukee Jordan Wicks LHP Kansas St 16. Miami Benny Montgomery OF Red Land HS 17. Cincinnati Sam Bachman RHP Miami Ohio 18. St Louis Harry Ford C North Cobb HS 19. Toronto Michael McGreevy RHP UC Santa Barbara 20. NY Yankees Gunner Hogland RHP Ole Miss 21. Chicago Cubs Will Bednar RHP Mississippi St 22. Chicago WS Wes Kath SS Desert Mountain HS 23. Cleveland Joshua Baez OF Dexter HS 24. Atlanta Joe Mack C Williamsville HS 25. Oakland Ryan Cusick RHP Wake Forest 26. Minnesota Tommy Mace RHP Florida 27. San Diego Anthony Solomento LHP Bishop Eustace HS 28. Tampa Chase Petty RHP Mainland HS 29. LA Dodgers Andrew Painter RHP Calvary HS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 41 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Please no. I don't disagree with you, thats just my reading of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runtheballdown Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 With most of position being manned by relative young players I would think the Sox would lean towards HS guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Mock Draft Thanks. Any intel on the Sox with prep pitchers or is it primarily bats at this point? Any chance there is interest in Solomento? Other publications have mentioned helium with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 30 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Thanks. Any intel on the Sox with prep pitchers or is it primarily bats at this point? Any chance there is interest in Solomento? Other publications have mentioned helium with him. I've heard a couple prep pitcher names in the later rounds but not a lot on 1st round guys. I think they'll take a college arm if one falls to them but it looks like their focus at the top is on HS hitters with power. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 1st- Wes Kath SS Desert Mountain HS 2nd- Thatcher Hurd RHP Mira Costa HS 3rd- Isaiah Thomas OF Vanderbilt 4th- Nathan Hickey C Florida 5th- Chad Patrick RHP Purdue Northwest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 11 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: 1st- Wes Kath SS Desert Mountain HS 2nd- Thatcher Hurd RHP Mira Costa HS 3rd- Isaiah Thomas OF Vanderbilt 4th- Nathan Hickey C Florida 5th- Chad Patrick RHP Purdue Northwest These first two picks would be really fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 45 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: These first two picks would be really fun Agreed. I think this is going to be a three player draft for them. I think they're going to try and push a couple dudes down to the 2nd and 3rd rounds and then grab money savers from 4-10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Great scouting report on Hurd https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lookoutlanding.com/platform/amp/2020/12/28/22201039/2021-mlb-draft-scouting-report-thatcher-hurd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 would really like some LHP talent to arrive this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 PIpeline mock. Think this one is by Mayo. https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-mock-draft-june-2?t=mlb-draft-coverage Quote 22. White Sox: Jud Fabian, OF, Florida Fabian might be the toughest guy to place now as he righted the ship for a while, then had a very rough weekend against Arkansas (1-for-11, 9 strikeouts) and didn’t do much in conference tournament play, but the tools are still legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) If like me, you wanted to know more about the draft prospects Harold mentioned: Quote Thatcher Hurd Mira Costa HS, Manhattan Beach, Calif.RHP Ht: 6-4 | Wt: 205 | B-T: R-R Commit/Drafted: UCLA Age At Draft: 18.6 Preseason Report: Listed at 6-foot-4, 205 pounds, Hurd has a lot of starter qualities that include his frame and a solid four-pitch mix. He sits with an 89-90 mph fastball that has been up to 92 and should continue to tick up as he fills out his frame. On top of that Hurd has shown a slider in the 78-80 mph range that has looked nasty on occasion and has potential to be a plus secondary. He’s also shown an average changeup and a curveball that bode well for his future chances to start. Hurd is committed to UCLA. Quote Isaiah Thomas Vanderbilt OF Ht: 6-2 | Wt: 190 | B-T: R-R Commit/Drafted: Rockies '18 (39) Age At Draft: 21.3 Preseason Report: Thomas has had exciting tools going back to his high school days at Benjamin High in Palm Beach Gardens, Fla. Scouts have wondered about the playability of those tools, however, as he’s had contact questions that still linger now in his third season with Vanderbilt. Thomas had a very impressive batting line in 2019, hitting .368/.405/.684 with three home runs in 21 games, but struggled out of the gate in 2020. He strikes out at a decent rate (21.8%) and rarely walks (3.6%), but he has the tools to be an impact player with improvement from his bat. He’s at least an above-average runner with 55-grade arm strength that should allow him a chance to play center or fit in right field if he can’t stick in the middle. After that he has plus raw power out of a lean, 6-foot-2, 190-pound frame. If Thomas hits, his tools fit with players at near the top of the draft class, so he’s a player to watch next spring on a loaded Vanderbilt team. Quote Nathan Hickey Florida C Ht: 6-0 | Wt: 205 | B-T: L-R Commit/Drafted: Never Drafted Age At Draft: 21.6 Preseason Report: Draft-eligible in just his second year at Florida, Hickey was a well-known high school prospect who played on the same team as Reds 2019 third-rounder Tyler Callihan. He was seen as an offensive-first backstop who needed to work to stick behind the plate and that remains his profile today. Hickey got off to a strong start with the bat in the shortened 2020 season, hitting .311/.439/.622 with four home runs in 15 games. That line came with a 26.3 strikeout percentage, but Hickey also drew walks in 17.5% of his plate appearances. He has solid hitting ability that comes with impressive raw power. Defensively, he’s functional behind the plate with solid hands, but his arm strength is only serviceable with a fringy exchange and release. He should get time at both corners and DH with Florida next spring, but if he can stick behind the plate at the next level, Hickey’s bat will be all the more impressive. Quote Chad Patrick Purdue Northwest (Ind.)RHP Ht: 6-1 | Wt: 205 | B-T: R-R Commit/Drafted: Never Drafted Age At Draft: 22.9 May Report: Patrick pairs advanced pitching ability with a three-pitch mix that includes a fastball in the 90-95 mph range, a downer curveball and a solid changeup. He repeats his delivery and can locate his fastball to both sides of the plate. He posted a 1.89 ERA through his first eight starts and 57 innings of the season, with 86 strikeouts to just eight walks. Edited June 3, 2021 by DirtySox 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 8 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Agreed. I think this is going to be a three player draft for them. I think they're going to try and push a couple dudes down to the 2nd and 3rd rounds and then grab money savers from 4-10. Yeah I agree with this. It's the Mike Shirley way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I'm a fan of Fabian, but don't see CWS liking him as much as we do Unsure who CWS will take, hopefully come away with another haul, much needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox80 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Yeah I agree with this. It's the Mike Shirley way Do you like that strategy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bmags Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: That game was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 45 minutes ago, bmags said: That game was awesome. Parada is going to be the next great GT catcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 10:15 AM, bmags said: would really like some LHP talent to arrive this draft. Dylan Dodd would be a good 5th round pick or so, senior sign to save some money and shows real potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Can the Sox draft the Arkansas crowd? Good lord that crowd is electric. Kopps is filthy but he went to his hat before every pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) On 6/1/2021 at 4:47 AM, beautox said: I think unless there is a major fall, the sox will take Adrian Del Castillo. There is a familiarity with him as they drafted him previously in the 36th round and have taken Collins out of the same program; Grandal is from there as well. Sox have proven track record of taking questionable defensive catchers and spinning them into serviceable and beyond (Flowers, Phegley, Stewart, Narváez, and Collins). If those were first round picks, that would be an unimpressive track record. Collins was a first round pick and is, as of now, a bust. Edited June 8, 2021 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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