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1 minute ago, ptatc said:

I don't believe this is true. There was a situation a couple of against Minnesota when Abreu tagged the bag, getting that runner, then threw to second to get the non=force double play. Stone and Benetti were saying that if Donalson had hustled home instead of dogging it the run would've counted. I think

That situation applies to the 3rd out.  If the 3rd out is a force at 1st, the inning is over, and no other action counts.

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1 minute ago, ptatc said:

I don't believe this is true. There was a situation a couple of against Minnesota when Abreu tagged the bag, getting that runner, then threw to second to get the non=force double play. Stone and Benetti were saying that if Donalson had hustled home instead of dogging it the run would've counted. I think

Double plays are different.

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Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Double plays are different.

Yup that's a completely different scenario. In a situation with less than 2 outs, the runner can score regardless if the runner at 1st reaches or not. But with 2 outs, the runner must beat the force play at 1st for the run to score.

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2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

That situation applies to the 3rd out.  If the 3rd out is a force at 1st, the inning is over, and no other action counts.

Got it. Thanks.

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6 minutes ago, ptatc said:

I don't believe this is true. There was a situation a couple of against Minnesota when Abreu tagged the bag, getting that runner, then threw to second to get the non=force double play. Stone and Benetti were saying that if Donalson had hustled home instead of dogging it the run would've counted. I think

Yeah, the play at first in that instance isn't what ended the inning. 

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Well the game still hasn't been cancelled and people who need to drive will be leaving for the park soon.  Hopefully they don't pull the same stunt that they did a couple weeks ago and cancel right at game time!

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47 minutes ago, Green Line said:

Well the game still hasn't been cancelled and people who need to drive will be leaving for the park soon.  Hopefully they don't pull the same stunt that they did a couple weeks ago and cancel right at game time!

Radar looks good right now. I think the game gets in.

 

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2 hours ago, ptatc said:

I don't believe this is true. There was a situation a couple of against Minnesota when Abreu tagged the bag, getting that runner, then threw to second to get the non=force double play. Stone and Benetti were saying that if Donalson had hustled home instead of dogging it the run would've counted. I think

Something I learned in the STL series (or maybe I knew this and forgot) from seeing them do it: you can tag up on a foul ball. I guess catching it makes the ball live. I don't think I've ever seen a bases-loaded flyout at the foul pole before, though.

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22 minutes ago, quickman said:

Is cease ever going to be a number 1 or two? I am just asking because you reset expectations based upon ability. You guys rumble but I think he is what he is . 

He's definitely got the stuff to be a 1 or a 2 but he's been walking too many guys. If he ever got a handle on that he's a front of the rotation guy.

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