Polar Bear Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: Yeah but we knew Sunday Eloy was coming back. Not sure when exactly we did. Pretty sure my post was Saturday so I was way ahead of the game lol Like I said. My prediction for both Eloy and Robert is pretty educated and looking at the fact that the Sox are struggling mightily right now and need a boost headed into a huge series at home. If it wasn't Cleveland at home I'd say Monday, but its Cleveland at home and we need him bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoedairy Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Moncada said: Not sure when exactly we did. Pretty sure my post was Saturday so I was way ahead of the game lol Like I said. My prediction for both Eloy and Robert is pretty educated and looking at the fact that the Sox are struggling mightily right now and need a boost headed into a huge series at home. If it wasn't Cleveland at home I'd say Monday, but its Cleveland at home and we need him bad. This isn't a huge series though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, joejoedairy said: This isn't a huge series though In my mind it is. We are a struggling team facing a team 8 back. We get swept they will only be 5 back with momentum and the knowledge they can catch us. We would then come out even more demoralized and could get in a rut making things worse. We win we can do the reverse to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 59 minutes ago, Moncada said: Not sure when exactly we did. Pretty sure my post was Saturday so I was way ahead of the game lol Like I said. My prediction for both Eloy and Robert is pretty educated and looking at the fact that the Sox are struggling mightily right now and need a boost headed into a huge series at home. If it wasn't Cleveland at home I'd say Monday, but its Cleveland at home and we need him bad. TLR announced before Sunday's game Eloy would be back. So I think around 1 or so. You could very well be right but it's odd that it hasn't leaked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Wtf is up with Robert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, hi8is said: Wtf is up with Robert? Playing tonight in Charlotte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, fathom said: Playing tonight in Charlotte Thanks! I was getting worried there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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poppysox Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Robert is our next big move. Not long now. Can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 He’s played 7 games, please don’t rush him, we saw the risk with Eloy already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Balta1701 said: He’s played 7 games, please don’t rush him, we saw the risk with Eloy already. Not sure I understand what you are getting at. If Robert and Eloy stay down longer are they less prone to injury here ? Do they play with less intensity or not run as hard there as they do here ? And if that is the case how does playing with less intensity or effort prepare them to play with more effort ? They can get hurt just as easily in the minors as here but at least we could get a big HR for the Sox rather than with the Knights. I understand the concerns specifically related to what happened to Engel and I had to question how Engel played when he was rehabbing with Charlotte due to him stealing 4 bases and then coming back and getting hurt again. He had gotten to the point at Charlotte where he seemed to playing at full speed and testing his leg and passed the audition so it's not just a matter of saying leave them down longer and they won't get hurt again when they come back up. Injuries happen regardless of how long you rehab . I also want Robert to use as much time as is needed before he comes back but relating that to injury prevention once he does come back doesn't compute. If the issue is Roberts torn muscle that injury will always be a concern in the future since we have heard many times the once a certain part of your body is injured it is more susceptible to being reinjured no matter how much one does to prevent it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Not sure I understand what you are getting at. If Robert and Eloy stay down longer are they less prone to injury here ? Do they play with less intensity or not run as hard there as they do here ? And if that is the case how does playing with less intensity or effort prepare them to play with more effort ? They can get hurt just as easily in the minors as here but at least we could get a big HR for the Sox rather than with the Knights. I understand the concerns specifically related to what happened to Engel and I had to question how Engel played when he was rehabbing with Charlotte due to him stealing 4 bases and then coming back and getting hurt again. He had gotten to the point at Charlotte where he seemed to playing at full speed and testing his leg and passed the audition so it's not just a matter of saying leave them down longer and they won't get hurt again when they come back up. Injuries happen regardless of how long you rehab . I also want Robert to use as much time as is needed before he comes back but relating that to injury prevention once he does come back doesn't compute. If the issue is Roberts torn muscle that injury will always be a concern in the future since we have heard many times the once a certain part of your body is injured it is more susceptible to being reinjured no matter how much one does to prevent it. Granted, but if they didn’t blow it with Engel at first, we may assume they were probably exercising all due caution because they are professionals. As we have seen many times, franchises don’t hold back the horses as much as they can or should. The deal with Eloy’s groin is most likely fait accompli because of a long period of inactivity followed by a lack of a longer ramp up. Guys get hurt a lot more as they begin the year just because. His year only just begun (as it were). Anyway, I am certainly not an expert on hip flexor tears, but he is almost certainly coming back from it way quicker than you or I would. They can do that with all the therapy devices at their disposal to a certain extent. But he could probably use a more extensive ramp up to mirror a real spring training post injury comeback. Engel gave me pause. It was very surprising. He almost certainly came back too quick. Edited July 31, 2021 by Chick Mercedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chw42 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Tnetennba said: That gives me PTSD. Isn't that the exact same type of play he got hurt on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, chw42 said: That gives me PTSD. Isn't that the exact same type of play he got hurt on? It’s quite similar. Don’t think he was going down the line as fast here as he was when he got hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: It’s quite similar. Don’t think he was going down the line as fast here as he was when he got hurt. yeah he was running about 75% looked like to me there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: It’s quite similar. Don’t think he was going down the line as fast here as he was when he got hurt. 9 minutes ago, harkness99 said: yeah he was running about 75% looked like to me there. I noticed that he got out of the box quickly but than slowed down at the end when he got closer to the base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Tnetennba said: Give him until August 10th or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hi8is Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 This is what is now important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 I am happy to wait for as long as it takes to bring back Robert healthy and ready to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 22 hours ago, Tnetennba said: I sort of fail to see how Lamb even has a place on this roster, once Robert is back. You have too many OFers, and Leury goes back to being the utility infielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, Capn12 said: I sort of fail to see how Lamb even has a place on this roster, once Robert is back. You have too many OFers, and Leury goes back to being the utility infielder. Lamb the IF makes more sense than Lamb the OF roster management wise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Lamb the IF makes more sense than Lamb the OF roster management wise. Is there enough value there, as basically a 3B only infielder, on this roster? You'd be able to play a few guys at first still, and Leury up the middle. I don't know, just don't see how this shakes out, at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, Capn12 said: Is there enough value there, as basically a 3B only infielder, on this roster? You'd be able to play a few guys at first still, and Leury up the middle. I don't know, just don't see how this shakes out, at all. I still think it is either him or Goodwin that is getting DFA'd here when Robert is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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