sin city sox fan Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Is Andrew Vaughn our second baseman of the future now? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 41 minutes ago, fathom said: Kimbrel has way more value on the market than you think Yeah, this isn’t a mathematical equation. Short of a TOR stud, nothing is more valuable at the trade deadline than a lock-down reliever, surplus value be dammed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, ptatc said: Gong to miss Nicky 2 strikes. He was good for this lineup. Me too - the saving grace is - technically 2B are dime a dozen - but he was a guy I Liked rooting for (small, scrappy, old school ball player who I think is going to have a really good career). But - with Hernandez being added - you can see he'll be the 2B again next year (and he's a legitimate quality 2B) - so I don't hate it from that side. I buy Heuer having some more really good years. I much prefer this to Crochet going though. Cause not having Nicky will likely not be a huge reason this team can't contend and they can find someone like Heuer, plus they have Kimbrel to package in the off-season (as long as he is healthy and hopefully that is after he is coming off a world series championship). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Madrigal: baserunning, inconsistent defense, and injuries. I can live with this trade. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 trades are already controversial ... throw in a controversial player in Madrigal and there will be some fun takes. Personally it stings, but second baseman are one of the easier positions to replace (which is a bit funny when you think how long we went with Mendick and Leury). I loved his throwback style and this stings personally, but i get it. this makes us a better team. Guessing that the Cubs ate the salary for this year to get Madrigal, but still would cost $16mm next year ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 this organization is so fucking stupid a million rps available for nothing and we buy a 16 milliln dollar closer to lose our long term 2b and heur fuckkng stupid 1 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, wegner said: I guess they will be picking up that option on Cesar Hernandez. yeah that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, DirtySox said: I like Nick Madrigal and all, but he feels highly replaceable. The ceiling isn't enormous. I'm okay with this. and at this point, there has to be concerns about his injury history. The funny thing is Hoerner and him are basically the same player. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, sin city sox fan said: Is Andrew Vaughn our second baseman of the future now? Him and Burger are going to get plenty of reps - but they have Hernandez at $6M for next year - which is nice. Makes that Hernandez trade look even better. Kind of like some 3D chess by Sox right there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Well at least this will end all criticism of how LaRussa uses the bullpen going forward in the GameThreads. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I think it comes down to this: 1. If the Sox win a World Series with Kimbrel, it's a great move. 2. If the Sox want to be big boys, they can sign Marcus Semien or any other handful of guys that will be out there and replace Nicky without blinking an eye. It only hurts if they don't replace him with talent. I love, love LOVE the White Sox going for it. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 So now that Madrigal is gone do we move Moncada back to second next year and play Burger at third? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, shipps said: They are going for it folks. Every season is sacred in itself. We will think about next year when it comes. Enjoy the ride and LFG. Yup, I'm excited as shit for this year and this makes them better and it's great. I just hate giving up a young position player for a damn reliever. Relievers are whatever. Even Kimbrel was complete trash the previous two years. Just a lot of risk with relievers, and their impact is on so few innings. The Sox could have just SPENT money on a big time reliever too, they didn't have to trade assets which makes it even more maddening. Love it for this year though. Fearful we'll regret it next year and beyond though. Who cares if we cash in this year, but if we don't this could suck. I really thought Madrigal complimented this roster and lineup perfectly. Edited July 30, 2021 by Look at Ray Ray Run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 52 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: This is bonkers to me. The Sox don't spend big money on FA's, and you'd want to give 16 million a year to Kimbrel while ALSO giving up a young pitcher with 6 years of control and electric stuff? That's a huge NO from me, dog. Unless you mean only if Bryant was included, but for just Kimbrel that would be a flat out raping by the Cubs. That's exactly what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 The good: The bullpen is fucking scary now. The lineup is covered. Clearly, the money will be spent. The risk: Madrigal turns into a batting champion on the North Side and is beloved. He could also be constantly injured, make mistakes this board shredded him for, etc. and this turns into a massive win for the Sox (I say this as a Madrigal fan). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, sin city sox fan said: Is Andrew Vaughn our second baseman of the future now? you joke but I wouldn't rule it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, fathom said: and at this point, there has to be concerns about his injury history. The funny thing is Hoerner and him are basically the same player. And from the sounds of it, they have been trying to trade him for a year now, FWIW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I'm a big fan of nick bit you have to give up something to get something. Hope this works for both teams. LFG!!! WE ARE PLAYING WITH BIG BOYS NOW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, DoUEvenShift said: So now that Madrigal is gone do we move Moncada back to second next year and play Burger at third? Absolutely not 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, 35thstreetswarm said: Let's hope this is our Torres for Chapman move. Let's hope this isn't our Torres for Chapman move. Cubs also traded over a few years Eloy, Cease, Soler as well as Torres (Vogelbach, too, but he hasn't panned out). I liked Nicky, but this is perfectly OK with me. The pen is ridiculous now and gets even crazier if Bummer straightens it out. Sox, so far, have only given up one top end prospect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, sin city sox fan said: Is Andrew Vaughn our second baseman of the future now? Now you see why we traded for Hernandez. He's our starting 2B next year unless he completely flops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I have some unfortunate shit-talking tweets about Madrigal but he eventually won me over, I'll miss him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan3530 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I smell a Baez signing this offseason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Tony said: I think it comes down to this: 1. If the Sox win a World Series with Kimbrel, it's a great move. 2. If the Sox want to be big boys, they can sign Marcus Semien or any other handful of guys that will be out there and replace Nicky without blinking an eye. It only hurts if they don't replace him with talent. I love, love LOVE the White Sox going for it. We have DEFINITELY seen an over population of talent out there at 2B. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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