JoeCredeYes Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, SoCalChiSox said: Until something meaningful and legitimately positive happens this is pretty much how it's gonna be. Blame the team, not the posters. I mean, I come here daily to be amongst like minded curmudgeons, I expect nothing less and find it comforting to know I'm not alone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Polar Bear said: When did he get traded to the Sox? Also 100 RBI's and almost 40 HR. Yeah thats worth $20M+ 1 minute ago, Polar Bear said: Meaningless to me. Votto has been downhill since like his age 33 season and is on his massive contract still. Its like saying that when Soto hits 40. Who cares about someone getting paid huge at the end of their career on a long term contract. Huh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, JoeCredeYes said: I mean, I come here daily to be amongst like minded curmudgeons, I expect nothing less and find it comforting to know I'm not alone. We're a bunch of scorpions in a bottle. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, chw42 said: That just means that he's better vs. righties than he is lefties. So that's a platoon bat, isn't it? .200 avg against one side vs .240 against one side Harper hit better against LHP than what 85-95% of our roster and a majority of MLB players If Harper hits .200 against LHP, yes that is a platoon bat. Your comparisons suck, maybe find one that works to support you argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Tyler Anderson to the Dodgers. Dang. Woulda been nice to have this guy if the Sox end up striking out on Manaea (which seems likely). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Polar Bear said: .200 avg against one side vs .240 against one side Harper hit better against LHP than what 85-95% of our roster and a majority of MLB players If Harper hits .200 against LHP, yes that is a platoon bat. Your comparisons suck, maybe find one that works to support you argument Your argument sucks, which is why I'm barely bothering to have a good faith conversation with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, Polar Bear said: How many make $20M+per year.... On a roster that was 28th in combined OPS from RF, it is worth $20 million to get a huge improvement out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Polar Bear said: .200 avg against one side vs .240 against one side Harper hit better against LHP than what 85-95% of our roster and a majority of MLB players If Harper hits .200 against LHP, yes that is a platoon bat. Your comparisons suck, maybe find one that works to support you argument Your batting average arguments however, these are impeccable. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, daggins said: Tyler Anderson to the Dodgers. Dang. Woulda been nice to have this guy if the Sox end up striking out on Manaea (which seems likely). They keep signing starters. Don’t seem to worried about depth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 57 minutes ago, Polar Bear said: You mean on stud in MLB the Show? No, in real life. His presence would’ve helped a lot against McCullers in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Ouch, looks like he would have made more by staying in Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 All jokes aside, FTR, everyone who plays baseball at any high level speaks "baseball." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Polar Bear Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: On a roster that was 28th in combined OPS from RF, it is worth $20 million to get a huge improvement out there. Sure, Conforto is not that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, chw42 said: Josh Nelson really has no idea what he's talking about. He seems like a nice guy, but his knowledge on contracts, baseball, trade value and player values, and beyond is just so poor for someone who speaks on so many platforms about the game. I don't neccessarily disagree with the general point he's making here, but listening to this guy talk about baseball and the White Sox is like listening to Chicago White Sox talk about making rational life decisions on where one should live and why. edit: Southside2k on one of his weird post deleting tantrums. Edited March 18, 2022 by Look at Ray Ray Run 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 We need an actual roster move to talk about. Help us out, Rick. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, chw42 said: Hmmm, seems like those 5/110 numbers are right in line with their potential ask. Not at all unreasonable IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Polar Bear said: Sure, Conforto is not that. We had a .671 OPS out of RF last year. Conforto is his career worst year filled injuries was .729. His career number is .824. If you leave off 2021 it becomes .843. Even at his worst, he is a large improvement. At his career average he is a huge improvement. If he gets near his career upper end, he would be worth an almost 300 point OPS improvement. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Josh Nelson really has no idea what he's talking about. He seems like a nice guy, but his knowledge on contracts, baseball, trade value and player values, and beyond is just so poor for someone who speaks on so many platforms about the game. I don't neccessarily disagree with the general point he's making here, but listening to this guy talk about baseball and the White Sox is like listening to Chicago White Sox talk about making rational life decisions on where one should live and why. edit: Southside2k on one of his weird post deleting tantrums. I tried listening to his pod once or twice, it was shockingly stupid for a guy that spends so much time covering the team and making it a public persona. But, the same is true of his boss Jim. Edited March 18, 2022 by chitownsportsfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Just now, Tnetennba said: Hmmm, seems like those 5/110 numbers are right in line with their potential ask. Not at all unreasonable IMO. I actually think an opt out after 2 years can benefit the Sox. But in the scenario where he turns into Adam Dunn (not saying that's likely), you're stuck with him for 5 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: I tried listening to his pod once or twice, it was shockingly stupid for a guy that spends so much time covering the team and making it a public persona. But, the same is true of his boss Jim. You and I are on the same page on this one. I have no idea what people get out of following him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Just now, chitownsportsfan said: I tried listening to his pod once or twice, it was shockingly stupid for a guy that spends so much time covering the team and making it a public persona. But, the same is true of his boss Jim. Jim isn't perfect, but he does have a strong historical understanding of the organization and it's players and is a good reference for White Sox history imo. He also doesn't pretend to have knowledge or ideas on potential trades or inside info. Nelson on the other hand... he has been portraying himself as that kind of person in the last year and it's just not a good look on him. He's that drunk guy at games yelling behind you things that leave you wondering if it was their first baseball game ever, or if they've ever even picked up a bat before. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: We had a .671 OPS out of RF last year. Conforto is his career worst year filled injuries was .729. His career number is .824. If you leave off 2021 it becomes .843. Even at his worst, he is a large improvement. At his career average he is a huge improvement. If he gets near his career upper end, he would be worth an almost 300 point OPS improvement. He fills one of the biggest holes/needs on this team and people are turning their nose up. It's not like they are trying to sign a new face of the franchise here, just a valuable piece. Makes no sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: We had a .671 OPS out of RF last year. Conforto is his career worst year filled injuries was .729. His career number is .824. If you leave off 2021 it becomes .843. Even at his worst, he is a large improvement. At his career average he is a huge improvement. If he gets near his career upper end, he would be worth an almost 300 point OPS improvement. Lol. You are comparing Adam Eaton and Leury Garcia to MLB players 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Just now, Polar Bear said: Lol. You are comparing Adam Eaton and Leury Garcia to MLB players 🤣 Odd take, but yes, I would like an actually decent MLB RF playing on a team that is competing for a title this yar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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