chitownsportsfan Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 The "dallas sucks" crowd and the "dallas will hit his vesting option" seems to have too much overlap here. Like, both aren't gonna be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said: The "dallas sucks" crowd and the "dallas will hit his vesting option" seems to have too much overlap here. Like, both aren't gonna be true. It could be. He sucked last year and got to 162. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ptatc said: It could be. He sucked last year and got to 162. It's highly unlikely. They will keep him under 160 one way or another. Unlike last year if he sucks he'll probably be out of the rotation after the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: The "dallas sucks" crowd and the "dallas will hit his vesting option" seems to have too much overlap here. Like, both aren't gonna be true. What would you set his highest ERA at to keep getting starts in the second half? 5? 5.25? That’s still above average for a fifth starter…but essentially replacement level, let’s say on course for a sub 1 fWAR like 2020. Even if he’s at 4.5 to 4.75ish, Hahn pretty much has to go out and add at least one more option in June/July…in order to cover Kopech. But also to show legit options in the case of a Keuchel grievance to where the team has a legit argument that they had better choices for starts. Of course, the last guy with conditions like this was Yonder Alonso. Didn’t come close. Edited April 13, 2022 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 On 4/12/2022 at 10:25 AM, CentralChamps21 said: If he does that, the extra $18.5M he would get would only be a slightly bad contract rather than a really bad one. I think it's $20M in 2023. But if he does fairly well this year and next yr. it would be considered a good contract but no one here expects that to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: What would you set his highest ERA at to keep getting starts in the second half? 5? 5.25? That’s still above average for a fifth starter…but essentially replacement level, let’s say on course for a sub 1 fWAR like 2020. Even if he’s at 4.5 to 4.75ish, Hahn pretty much has to go out and add at least one more option in June/July…in order to cover Kopech. I'd bet they use him as a headliner if it's that bad, maybe with Lopez. Or hell, the way Lopez is pitching maybe he's the 5th starter. Really there's too many variables here to predict much of anything other than come hell or high water the Sox aren't going to let him hit 160. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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raBBit Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 There is zero chance the Sox let Keuchel's option vest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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