CentralChamps21 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) 5th in AL in fWAR. (*Perez 6th, Manoah 8th, Valdez 9th, Cortes 13th, *Blackburn 20th) 4th in AL in ERA (Valdez 6th, *Perez 7th, Cortes 8th, *Blackburn 14th) 4th in AL in FIP (*Perez 5th, Verlander 7th, Valdez 9th, Manoah 10th, Cole 14th, Cortes 15th, *Blackburn 17th) * Texas and Oakland had to have an all-star and these guys were those teams' best choices. Still doesn't justify Valdez or Cortes when Cease beats them both in all three. Edited July 10, 2022 by CentralChamps21 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 I know it would have been a great honor for Cease, but I'd rather see him get the rest. It would be the Sox luck if Cease got a line drive in the face in a meaningless game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 .... for now. Pitchers will drop out and he'll be in as a replacement. Agree that he should've been in originally, but it'll work itself out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 When your team sucks you get overlooked. He will get in as a replacement. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Dylan Cease should be in, but Kevin Gausman has been better, Shane Bieber his equal, but both were shunned by their 6-6 and 3-5 records, Martin Perez & Paul Blackburn are "team participation" trophy selection. Win Loss record (emphasis on least losses) still plays a big role for the dinosaurs deciding this bullshit. It's why Tony La Russa places more emphasis on individual wins and saves than White Sox wins. Top 20 AL fWAR Qualified (Innings) Starting Pitchers (Bold = All Star) 3.7 Kevin Gausman (6-6) 2.9 Shane McClanahan (9-3) 2.6 Justin Verlander (11-3) 2.5 Shane Bieber (3-5) 2.4 Dylan Cease (7-4) 2.4 Martin Perez (7-2) 2.2 Tank Skubal (6-7) 2.1 Alek Manoah (9-4) 2.1 Framber Valdez (8-4) 1.9 Frankie Montas (3-9) 1.9 Nick Pivetta (8-6) 1.9 Jameson Taillon (9-2) 1.7 Nestor Cortes (7-3) 1.7 Logan Gilbert (10-3) 1.6 Jordan Lyles (5-7) 1.6 Gerrit Cole (8-2) 1.4 Jon Gray (5-4) 1.4 Robbie Ray (7-6) 1.3 Jordan Montgomery (3-2) 1.3 Paul Blackburn (6-4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Cease paid the price for being a member of the Unsuccessful White Sox with a laughingstock of a manager who went viral nationally with his stupid decisions in the Dodgers series and other games IMO. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 The all-Star game has become a big nothing burger to me. I would just as soon get the team a break and start fresh.  1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Â 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:  Saw this on my Twitter feed too. Carlos is a clearly a good teammate. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 I’m sure he’ll be added before it’s all said and done, but this is BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 23 minutes ago, chw42 said: Saw this on my Twitter feed too. Carlos is a clearly a good teammate. I know it isn't everyone's cup of tea, but a bunch of Sox players streamed on twitch during the pandemic. Carlos was one of them & he came across as such a nice guy. I'll always be a fan of his for life because of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 35 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Â Hahn is such a fucking idiot. That is all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Snopek Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:  I have no problem with Blackburn making the team because A’s and I don’t mind the every team represents thing. Nestor? Nice enough story, but come the fuck on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Snopek said: I have no problem with Blackburn making the team because A’s and I don’t mind the every team represents thing. Nestor? Nice enough story, but come the fuck on. Yankees should have gotten 1 of Nestor/Cole. Not both. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 28 minutes ago, Snopek said: I have no problem with Blackburn making the team because A’s and I don’t mind the every team represents thing. Nestor? Nice enough story, but come the fuck on. A's needed a rep, so Blackburn totally fits.  Nestor though over Cease, nah. 26 minutes ago, chw42 said: Yankees should have gotten 1 of Nestor/Cole. Not both. Yeah, Yankees have enough dudes going already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Cease being left off is absolutely ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Five of the eight All Star Starting Pitchers were selected by the Player's Ballot, with two of the remaining three chosen by the Commissioner's office to ensure each team is represented. Only one SP among the eight was discretionary. https://www.mlb.com/news/all-star-game-roster-rules-faq-c239654292 All Star Rosters - 33Â Players per League Fans (9):Â Starting Position Players Players (17):Â Eight Pitchers (5 SPs & 3 RPs) and 9 Starting Position Backups Commissioner's Office (6):Â Four Pitchers & Two Position Players - Picks include necessary selections to ensure each team is represented. Rob Manfred (1):Â Special Selection Player based on distinguished careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 I wonder if his high walk total nudged him out? He is leading the AL in walks currently. Fabulous year so far, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) He got hosed, but it's better for the team he gets those 4 days off. Rodon didn't make it either. It's crazy. And Rodon was more pissed Cease didn't make it than himself. Edited July 11, 2022 by Dick Allen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 If Cease played for Yankees, Red Sox, or Dodgers, he'd be an all star. Same goes for Rodon playing for the Giants. Both guys are more deserving than several of the pitchers that did make it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 People still take the ASG seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, MiddleCoastBias said: .... for now. Pitchers will drop out and he'll be in as a replacement. Agree that he should've been in originally, but it'll work itself out. Just came here to say this exact thing. Someone will drop out or get hurt between now and then. Edited July 11, 2022 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Just came here to say this exact thing. Someone will drop out or get hurt between now and then. I doubt it, since he is scheduled to pitch tomorrow and Sunday. The Sox are not in a position to let him skip his Sunday start to allow him to pitch an inning or two in the ASG. Edited July 11, 2022 by South Side Hit Men 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 The all star sections for the White Sox are all you need to see. Anderson has no business being there and Cease does yet Anderson is starting and Cease is not even invited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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