southsider2k5 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Go ahead and start the seat at the table jokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 "all-in on returning to the playoffs" - who wrote this? This sounds like a line spoonfed by Hahn to a gullible writer that doesn't do any due diligence to look any of the recent moves this organization has made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 This reminds me of this tweet 1 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, chw42 said: This reminds me of this tweet Yeah, the "front line starter," who ended up being Vince Velasquez and the second baseman "like Marcus Semien," who ended up being Josh Harrison. This is a bad joke. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 The White Sox are Mike Greenman..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) Do any of you share my trepidation that the moves this front office might make could very well be worse than just standing pat? They erred badly in their off season moves, and aren't likely to fix their mistakes, at this late date and out of desperation. "Don't just do something-stand there". Edited July 26, 2022 by Lillian 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 nah, i believe this. This team ain't it. it's broken and station to station, doesn't take walks, doesn't work counts, doesn't play defense, doesn't run out balls in play, don't hit the cut-off men, do not run bases well, do not read signs well, has a manager without a pulse in his body, in the media, or team and we are maxed out in terms of payroll. i actually fully think this is JUST the time the Sox would go all-in and mortgage whatever few pieces of a minor league system they have left all to lose to a much better Yankees and Astros team. (blue jays too) in the ALDS in 4 games. Feed this into my veins! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 44 minutes ago, chw42 said: This reminds me of this tweet He was right about Semien. They tried to jump the market with a low ball offer that got blown out of the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: He was right about Semien. They tried to jump the market with a low ball offer that got blown out of the water. Haha that is so White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 “Upgrades at second base and in right field.” The jokes write themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Lillian said: Do any of you share my trepidation that the moves this front office might make could very well be worse than just standing pat? They erred badly in their off season moves, and aren't likely to fix their mistakes, at this late date and out of desperation. "Don't just do something-stand there". I don't want the front office to touch anything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Lillian said: Do any of you share my trepidation that the moves this front office might make could very well be worse than just standing pat? They erred badly in their off season moves, and aren't likely to fix their mistakes, at this late date and out of desperation. "Don't just do something-stand there". They scare the hell out of me...you're not alone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Do they have a dollar to spare? 50 cents? Or are all funds reserved for overpriced relievers?🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, wegner said: They scare the hell out of me...you're not alone. Same. Though adding Conforto now might be an interesting buy low option for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 hours ago, chw42 said: This reminds me of this tweet They were definitely seeking these guys, for 100 bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Go ahead and start the seat at the table jokes. Ha! I’m here for all the jokes….I’ll believe it when I see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) They really don't have anything to trade on the current roster. Too many brittle guys, Change of scenery trades don't work either. Last years trades were really bad, It's not about what they gave up it didn't make them better and somewhat worse. I'd rather they do nothing unless they can trade Tony. All in is not gonna happen this year or next. Edited July 27, 2022 by kitekrazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Tradewinds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 7 hours ago, chw42 said: This reminds me of this tweet This has got to be the most unrealistic tweet of the decade. Ray's not going anywhere because 1) the M's desperately need him with Gilbert/Kirby hitting their limits as rookies and 2) they're not going to sign a premium free agent and trade him within 12 months. Semien doesn't actually begin to fit with Sox salary/payroll philosophy. Harrison probably has comparable numbers the last 6-8 weeks. Second base is no longer one of the biggest problem areas on the team, unless Leury plays "too much." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: This has got to be the most unrealistic tweet of the decade. Ray's not going anywhere because 1) the M's desperately need him with Gilbert/Kirby hitting their limits as rookies and 2) they're not going to sign a premium free agent and trade him within 12 months. Semien doesn't actually begin to fit with Sox salary/payroll philosophy. Harrison probably has comparable numbers the last 6-8 weeks. Second base is no longer one of the biggest problem areas on the team, unless Leury plays "too much." Check the date 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, kitekrazy said: They really don't have anything to trade on the current roster. Too many brittle guys, Change of scenery trades don't work either. Last years trades were really bad, It's not about what they gave up it didn't make them better and somewhat worse. I'd rather they do nothing unless they can trade Tony. All in is not gonna happen this year or next. It has to happen next year considering Giolito's status, the fact that it would be two years without a post-season appearance (if they didn't make it THIS year)...which would spell the doom of the rebuild's momentum (the Cubs had that one year without making it, and then bounced back, but they started with three consecutive NL championship series as a baseline too)...and TA's free agency status looming the following year as well (progress of Montgomery in AA/AAA). Not to mention they would need to find a completely new catcher for 2024, which means next year is pivotal. Lynn's status is up in the air too, quite obviously, after 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 5 hours ago, caulfield12 said: It has to happen next year considering Giolito's status, the fact that it would be two years without a post-season appearance (if they didn't make it THIS year)...which would spell the doom of the rebuild's momentum (the Cubs had that one year without making it, and then bounced back, but they started with three consecutive NL championship series as a baseline too)...and TA's free agency status looming the following year as well (progress of Montgomery in AA/AAA). Not to mention they would need to find a completely new catcher for 2024, which means next year is pivotal. Lynn's status is up in the air too, quite obviously, after 2023. If we're hanging on to Giolito for the rebuild succeeding or not, we're probably in trouble. They should of added a TOR starter last winter, but blew that obvious need off. Now the need is even greater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Sarava said: If we're hanging on to Giolito for the rebuild succeeding or not, we're probably in trouble. They should of added a TOR starter last winter, but blew that obvious need off. Now the need is even greater. Then they’re really going to have to get creative with Eloy, Moncada, Hendriks, Pollock, Lynn, etc. It would seem pretty much impossible to move either Grandal or Kelly. Unless they’re going to run a $210-215 million payroll or make some dramatic cuts somewhere, they won’t be able to afford a TOR guy. They might have to settle for a Manaea 3rd/4th starter type, because there’s no way they will go after Musgrove, deGrom or Rodon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Then they’re really going to have to get creative with Eloy, Moncada, Hendriks, Pollock, Lynn, etc. It would seem pretty much impossible to move either Grandal or Kelly. Unless they’re going to run a $210-215 million payroll or make some dramatic cuts somewhere, they won’t be able to afford a TOR guy. They might have to settle for a Manaea 3rd/4th starter type, because there’s no way they will go after Musgrove, deGrom or Rodon. I don't disagree. They've cornered themselves in with some bad contracts. I was just pointing out - right now Giolito is a mediocre 3rd/4th starter at best, until he proves otherwise. I'm not sure that he is a barometer for any success or lack of going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sarava said: I don't disagree. They've cornered themselves in with some bad contracts. I was just pointing out - right now Giolito is a mediocre 3rd/4th starter at best, until he proves otherwise. I'm not sure that he is a barometer for any success or lack of going forward. The problem is that relying on Martin or Lambert is the pitching equivalent of Sheets and Leury. Maybe they get another deal with Cueto, but it won’t be nearly so advantageous the second time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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