Balta1701 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: I don't think there's a realistic 2B option. They need a SP though. I think quite clearly they have to go with Romy and Lenyn as their main 2b options, and if it were me I would be also giving Mendick an arb-1 offer if he's expected to be healthy enough to play as he was a decent enough option last year. It may not work, it would be nice to find someone better there, but they have warm bodies in their middle IF already and if they want to compete without going over the luxury tax they're going to have to rely on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Balta1701 said: I think quite clearly they have to go with Romy and Lenyn as their main 2b options, and if it were me I would be also giving Mendick an arb-1 offer if he's expected to be healthy enough to play as he was a decent enough option last year. It may not work, it would be nice to find someone better there, but they have warm bodies in their middle IF already and if they want to compete without going over the luxury tax they're going to have to rely on them. I’d have no issues giving Lenyn first shot at it. I think he’s definitely capable of holding it down versus bringing in yet again another washed up veteran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 I believe the White Sox are signaling that they plan on investing in ways to make their current guys better rather than investing in new guys to replace their current guys. Very likely too little too late, but that's what I'm guessing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GreenSox Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: I don't think there's a realistic 2B option. They need a SP though. They've got 4 minimum salary guys they can play at 2b. All are reasonably well regarded in the minors. Plenty of good teams let young players play even if they struggle some. The Astros do it, the Phillies do it, and the Sox...sign Josh Harrison to get that proven production. 2B is really down on the list of trouble spots (catcher, OF, SP, e.g.) Edited November 4, 2022 by GreenSox 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, GreenSox said: They've got 4 minimum salary guys they can play at 2b. All are reasonably well regarded in the minors. Plenty of good teams let young players play even if they struggle some. The Astros do it, the Phillies do it, and the Sox...sign Josh Harrison to get that proven production. 2B is really down on the list of trouble spots (catcher, OF, SP, e.g.) They got .256/.317/.370 with 7 HR's and 27 RBI's out of Harrison through 119 games. If they can't get that level of production our of some combo of Mendick/Sosa/Gonzalez - I'd be shocked. Especially if they are going to use a more analytical approach, realistically they should be able to match that production with those guys out of the bottom of the order. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 8 hours ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: They got .256/.317/.370 with 7 HR's and 27 RBI's out of Harrison through 119 games. If they can't get that level of production our of some combo of Mendick/Sosa/Gonzalez - I'd be shocked. Especially if they are going to use a more analytical approach, realistically they should be able to match that production with those guys out of the bottom of the order. Yeah and for league minimum at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) Edited November 4, 2022 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 38 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: Then they have to trade Vaughn. It makes zero sense to have both on this roster. Utilize his value to fill another hole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Then they have to trade Vaughn. It makes zero sense to have both on this roster. Utilize his value to fill another hole. Only thing you could do is try to unload Grandal (which requires eating cash or taking on ...probably a trash pitcher I'd guess) That really opens up the C position for Omar Narvaez! Now a good defensive catcher, his offense has fallen off. It looks like he may have hit a real wall as he ages into year 30, making him attractive to Hahn. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, bmags said: Only thing you could do is try to unload Grandal (which requires eating cash or taking on ...probably a trash pitcher I'd guess) That really opens up the C position for Omar Narvaez! Now a good defensive catcher, his offense has fallen off. It looks like he may have hit a real wall as he ages into year 30, making him attractive to Hahn. He had the Sox attached to Contreras and Rodon (as well as Conforto) in his article yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, fathom said: He had the Sox attached to Contreras and Rodon (as well as Conforto) in his article yesterday LOL. I love how different the white sox is in national writers heads vs. fans. We are more correct with zero info. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 It's gonna be Colas in RF and Romy/Lenyn at 2B and I'm kind of fine with that because it's better than what we had and has a chance to be legit good. I also wouldn't mind a flyer on Conforto. Would love Contreras or Rodon, but I highly doubt both of them. You'd need to offload Yaz somehow for sure for Contreras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, almagest said: It's gonna be Colas in RF and Romy/Lenyn at 2B and I'm kind of fine with that because it's better than what we had and has a chance to be legit good. I also wouldn't mind a flyer on Conforto. Would love Contreras or Rodon, but I highly doubt both of them. You'd need to offload Yaz somehow for sure for Contreras. Yaz may be cooked physically, but offers one of the few potential high obp, lhp potential on the roster. It's something they need to actually figure out, but it's one of the reasons you can't trust this FO because they looked at Carlos Rodon and determined he was done and he basically could have won the cy young and will get buku bucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 hour ago, bmags said: LOL. I love how different the white sox is in national writers heads vs. fans. We are more correct with zero info. All the guys he named sound like pipe dreams outside of Conforto. And that's only because he's coming off an injury and nobody knows how good he'll actually be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 What is the status on Conforto? With the season fully wrapping up this weekend, I would expect to start seeing off-season fluff pieces on free agents next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 I'd be very surprised if Jose Abreu is on the White Sox in 2023 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I'd be very surprised if Jose Abreu is on the White Sox in 2023 good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Preparing for the pounding that will ensue; however, I am DREAMING of Trea Turner to play 2b. Was hoping Sox would have drafted him over Rodon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Springfield Soxfan said: Preparing for the pounding that will ensue; however, I am DREAMING of Trea Turner to play 2b. Was hoping Sox would have drafted him over Rodon. Keep dreaming. Turner is gonna get a $250 million contract and that's something Jerry will never give out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 49 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I'd be very surprised if Jose Abreu is on the White Sox in 2023 As a long time Vaughn supporter… I’d rather resign Jose and trade Vaughn for a young left fielder or starting pitcher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 24 minutes ago, chw42 said: Keep dreaming. Turner is gonna get a $250 million contract and that's something Jerry will never give out. Seager cleared $300 mill. Turner will too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Seager cleared $300 mill. Turner will too. Turner is 2 years older. He might not get the 10 year deal Seager got just because of age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said: What is the status on Conforto? With the season fully wrapping up this weekend, I would expect to start seeing off-season fluff pieces on free agents next week. There don't seem to be any pieces at all regarding his injury, but the insiders and free agent rankers are starting to come out and they seem to think he's available. Here's Keith Law over at the Athletic, Conforto comes in 49th out of 50 free agents. https://theathletic.com/3751518/2022/11/02/top-50-mlb-free-agents-predictions/ Here is an article today projecting contract terms and they have Conforto as 1 year, $14 million (they have Nimmo at 7/$145 by the way) https://www.nj.com/yankees/2022/11/mlb-insider-reveals-projected-contract-terms-for-top-yankees-mets-free-agents-aaron-judge-jacob-degrom-more.html Here's a top 30 by Heyman at the New York post, including contract estimates. He also has Conforto estimated at 1 year, $14 million. Also no suggestion that his injury will prevent him from signing. https://nypost.com/2022/11/03/major-league-baseball-ranking-top-30-free-agents/ Same numbers for Nimmo, 7/$145, and has Benintendi at 4 years, $56 million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said: What is the status on Conforto? With the season fully wrapping up this weekend, I would expect to start seeing off-season fluff pieces on free agents next week. No one has really said yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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