soulfly Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 If Hahn isn't gone, it really doesn't matter who the next manager is. Once he's gone, almost half of this roster can go, but he absolutely cannot be the one making those decisions. Sure, will it be better without TLR? Without a doubt it would. Still doesn't mean this team, or one constructed by Hahn could win a World Series. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 58 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Press conference is at 4 pm tomorrow and will be televised. Hope there are more retirements announced. They would never allow Tony's day to be clouded with others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie4Pres Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Good riddance. Who is next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Texsox said: If you ignore the Black Sox scandal. JR got the team into a great stadium deal. Where are you going to put JR? He's got to at least be second. I'd put him in the spot where he almost destroyed a franchise. Screw the stadium deal. That stadium was not built for the average fan, and, when it opened, looked like a giant toilet bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Sarava said: There's nothing confusing. He's the same potential risk vs. reward for the White Sox as he would be for every other team in baseball. I'm fine bringing him back - but they better not depend on him as anything more than a #5. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 On 9/27/2022 at 7:40 PM, wegner said: Can he take Joe Kelly to retirement with him? I picture them on side by side recliners..."You know, I really think they wouldv'e loved you by the end of the 2023 season Joe"...."Why, was I going to be traded?" With Leury serving them drinks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Texsox said: If you ignore the Black Sox scandal. JR got the team into a great stadium deal. Where are you going to put JR? He's got to at least be second. He did get a great stadium deal, Problem is he got it built in a unpopular location and the stadium has a miserable upper deck that nobody likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, WBWSF said: He did get a great stadium deal, Problem is he got it built in a unpopular location and the stadium has a miserable upper deck that nobody likes. The upper deck currently is a non issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: Read the fucking fine print in Bob’s article: Fucking shitshow. Damn, so Bernstein may have been wrong with his reporting. 13 hours ago, caulfield12 said: The individuals are presented in alphabetical order. Brad Ausmus, Athletics bench coach. ... Joe Espada, Astros bench coach. ... Matt Quatraro, Rays bench coach. ... Mike Scioscia, Team USA manager. ... Rob Thomson, Phillies interim manager. ... Dusty Wathan, Phillies third base coach. Son of John. Top candidates when they were pushing Girardi out in Philly...would personally prefer Bochy to Scioscia/Maddon. Have already talked about Harris Beltran Alomar Jr. Fwiw, Bob Melvin has been a steadying presence in SD, quite similar to Bruce B. Francona or Micah Hyde are manager of the year in the AL, Mariners #3. Look to Guardians, Rays, Brewers staffs. Pass on Ausmus, Bochy, Scioscia, Girardi, AJP, Harris, Maddon and Guillen. Interview Espada, Quatraro, Alomar, Jr. and Beltran. Edited October 3, 2022 by The Beast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 On 9/27/2022 at 5:27 PM, Jack Parkman said: Thought this deserved its own thread Too bad it is one year too late, but we will still happily take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: They would never allow Tony's day to be clouded with others. Sad but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) I’d rather have seen Tony publicly humiliated and fired into the sun. But I guess this will have to do. Sox immediately become more viable next season with this clown out of the way, but lots of work to do. Ready to start seeing that progress tomorrow. Edited October 3, 2022 by ChiSox59 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) Just now, ChiSox59 said: Still getting used to this revised edit feature Edited October 3, 2022 by ChiSox59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Texsox said: And will leave as the most successful owner in franchise history. From championships to return on his partners investment. Does Not Compute Charles Comiskey 31 Years, 2 World Series Championships, 4 AL Pennants Jerry Reinsdorf 42 years, 1 World Series Championship, 1 AL Pennant Edited October 3, 2022 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PitchatRisktoZisk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, hi8is said: Sad but true. I'm willing to wait another 72 hours for Rick to have his own "day". Don't stop now boys! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 11 hours ago, Sarava said: You're right. But now we've watched a season where all too often the guys didn't appear to be playing hard. Other teams took advantage of this all season long. A new manager will help, but there's does need to be some roster changes as well IMO. No doubt about it. Even JR JR has to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 11 hours ago, bmags said: He won 5 pennants. Everything, from post season to revenue is easier for an owner at JRs time in history. Add that he was given a division of small money owners in declining markets. He wasn’t competing with the 20s or 60s Yankees. So where does JR rank? I'll give you Charles in first. Although I imagine in today's world he might have been forced to sell after the scandal. Sadly Charles was one hundred years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 11 hours ago, Thad Bosley said: Faint praise. You’re comparing him to Comiskey, Veeck, and the Allyns, the last two with no money to spend and without a sweetheart lease deal. None of those previous owners had near the resources afforded Reinsdorf, and yet with such an advantage, just one trip to the World Series, and ZERO playoff series wins in the other 41 years. PATHETIC. So you'll be happy with another no money owner? It's a long history of owners, managers, coaches, scouts, secretaries, janitors, and players not winning anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Highland said: I'd put him in the spot where he almost destroyed a franchise. Screw the stadium deal. That stadium was not built for the average fan, and, when it opened, looked like a giant toilet bowl. Stadiums aren't built anymore for the average fan. Lux suites and television are far more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 10 hours ago, WBWSF said: He did get a great stadium deal, Problem is he got it built in a unpopular location and the stadium has a miserable upper deck that nobody likes. I don't believe Chicago was as unpopular as Florida with the local fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 6 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: Does Not Compute Charles Comiskey 31 Years, 2 World Series Championships, 4 AL Pennants Jerry Reinsdorf 42 years, 1 World Series Championship, 1 AL Pennant Black Sox. Nearly destroyed baseball. Would anyone here give JR a pass if it was learned his team threw last year's playoff series because he was cheap? But I'll give you Charles as your #1. Anyone you want to fit in between? One hundred years of other owners to choose from. I'm not saying he's a good owner, I'm suggesting this is one of the worst franchise in all of sports. It was when he bought it and it still is. From the lowest paid to the owner's box, they all suck and have for most of the 100 plus years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, Texsox said: Black Sox. Nearly destroyed baseball. Would anyone here give JR a pass if it was learned his team threw last year's playoff series because he was cheap? But I'll give you Charles as your #1. Anyone you want to fit in between? One hundred years of other owners to choose from. I'm not saying he's a good owner, I'm suggesting this is one of the worst franchise in all of sports. It was when he bought it and it still is. From the lowest paid to the owner's box, they all suck and have for most of the 100 plus years. John Allyn was pretty terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 11 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: They would never allow Tony's day to be clouded with others. Nor should they. I'd do that out of respect to the HoF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 13 hours ago, chw42 said: Praying that Hahn isn't at the presser since he's getting fired. I guess you could be in the presser and still fire Hahn. But it sounds like he will still be with the Sox. So best hope is Hahn is in another position w/o involvement in day to day activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 8 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: I’d rather have seen Tony publicly humiliated and fired into the sun. But I guess this will have to do. Sox immediately become more viable next season with this clown out of the way, but lots of work to do. Ready to start seeing that progress tomorrow. New manager has to be an upgrade to TLR. Then again, who is picking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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