Tony Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Yeah, because of typical White Sox petty ass bullshit (Kenny). Frank went on to have a 3.2 bWAR season with Oakland, which by the way, won their division whereas Kenny’s team were golfing to start October. You're leaving out the fact that Frank played every game at DH in 2006. The DH for the White Sox in 2006 put up a 4.9 bWAR that season. (And a 3.7 bWAR in 2007) Things got ugly and it shouldn't have, I agree with that...but acting like letting Frank walk was a terrible decision isn't factually accurate. He was hurt in 2004, hurt in 2005....It wasn't crazy to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Yoan is a good to great 3B defensively....but he's no Billy Hamilton. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Is it my imagination or does it seem like Eloy is pulling the ball a lot more ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossanoveralls Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, wegner said: Yoan is a good to great 3B defensively....but he's no Billy Hamilton. Yoan wears Billy Hamilton pajamas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tony said: You're leaving out the fact that Frank played every game at DH in 2006. The DH for the White Sox in 2006 put up a 4.9 bWAR that season. (And a 3.7 bWAR in 2007) Things got ugly and it shouldn't have, I agree with that...but acting like letting Frank walk was a terrible decision isn't factually accurate. He was hurt in 2004, hurt in 2005....It wasn't crazy to move on. "Too many" good 1B/DH options, not enough good players elsewhere on the roster. It's like the Sox have had slightly different versions of the same issues going on 20+ years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Tony said: You're leaving out the fact that Frank played every game at DH in 2006. The DH for the White Sox in 2006 put up a 4.9 bWAR that season. (And a 3.7 bWAR in 2007) Things got ugly and it shouldn't have, I agree with that...but acting like letting Frank walk was a terrible decision isn't factually accurate. He was hurt in 2004, hurt in 2005....It wasn't crazy to move on. Well your leaving out the fact that the Sox could have just signed Frank as opposed to sending two good players away for Thome. Aaron Rowand had the best season in that trade (5.1 bWAR 2007), and the Sox also gave up a 28.3 bWAR pitcher in the process. I do agree the injuries played a role, but Kenny’s comments kicking Frank on the way out were typical of the way the White Sox have conducted business since the AL Owners brought Jerry into their sad little club. Edited October 5, 2022 by South Side Hit Men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, Spumoni said: Got that Elvis ball! You're there and did you really ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Jupiter is very visible tonight....thanks Google Sky Map. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spumoni Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: You're there and did you really ? Sure did. Didn’t catch it outright unfortunately but got it off the bounce of someone who missed it. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4.90 ERA ✅️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 ERA under 5 Congrats Lucas Time to refinance with G-Rate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, wegner said: ERA under 5 Congrats Lucas Time to refinance with G-Rate And the team might not finish under .500 which is also a recent goal for Lucas....sounds like strong arbitration arguments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, maxjusttyped said: It only took until the 161st game, but I think the offensive breakout is finally happening I guess some guys realized that they need to impress and keep their jobs. Too late though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Only gave up a run? Yep Diekman shoved that game Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 A clean inning from Diekman tomorrow and he might be able to get his ERA with the Sox under 7. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, The Beast said: Man I really want Andrus at second base next year for us. I was totally against it before. It's his best season since 2017 so getting a repeat next year of what he's done with the Sox since they've had him seems highly unlikely for a 34 year old. However his glove is very good. He can steal a base every now and then and 17 HR's would be tied for the most on the Sox if he had hit them all with them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, maxjusttyped said: A clean inning from Diekman tomorrow and he might be able to get his ERA with the Sox under 7. Let him finish tonight. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Seems like Vaughn disappeared again this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, maxjusttyped said: The end result of a tanked season being 2 expensive years of AJ Pollock is unfathomably bad. Even for a terrible GM like Hahn. Hahn’s original sin was the bad Kimbrel trade that led to the bad Pollock trade. Madrigal was not expensive, and we already had a closer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, hankchifan said: Hahn’s original sin was the bad Kimbrel trade that led to the bad Pollock trade. Madrigal was not expensive, and we already had a closer. 2 dreadful trade deadlines in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, wegner said: Let him finish tonight. Diekman another terrible Hahn trade, particularly withBummer coming back. We could have used McGuire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, hankchifan said: Diekman another terrible Hahn trade, particularly withBummer coming back. We could have used McGuire. I honestly don't miss McGuire, but Diekman has been awful and we're stuck with him next year...and he's not cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 27 minutes ago, Spumoni said: Sure did. Didn’t catch it outright unfortunately but got it off the bounce of someone who missed it. I'll have to watch the replay and if if the camera caught your catch. Nice ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Pre-2022 Engel catches that. He's getting non tendered for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, wegner said: I honestly don't miss McGuire, but Diekman has been awful and we're stuck with him next year...and he's not cheap. Sox sign bad contracts and trade for bad contracts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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