bmags Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, Timmy U said: Anyone else think this hot pitching market may be related to COVID fallout? No 2020 MiLB season means the Sox aren’t the only ones behind in their pitching development. Fewer pitchers with the innings build up to be starters means more money for the ones that are. Hence make good deals are $10-12 mil instead of $6-8 mil. Eh, I think this tracks so far with last few years. The $6-$8 mill happens in feb. Remember braves jumping on Smyly for 1 yr $10 mill for like 8 IP a few years ago? Anyone teams think have potential go for $10-$16 mil. Surprise to me is Eflins years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChiSox59 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 10 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I have a lot of butt hurt reply guys but you're quickly becoming one of my favorites. When you act like you have all the answers, but never actually share anything of substance, and 95% of your posts are just stupid condescending one liners, that is what you get. I've yet to see you provide any sort of accurate insight, yet you continue to act like you have some in to the Sox FO. I think you're full of s%*#. It's one thing to be someone like Pal that doesn't really say much other than little vague nuggets, but he doesn't act like a total tool. Then there is you. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: When you act like you have all the answers, but never actually share anything of substance, and 95% of your posts are just stupid condescending one liners, that is what you get. I've yet to see you provide any sort of accurate insight, yet you continue to act like you have some in to the Sox FO. I think you're full of s%*#. It's one thing to be someone like Pal that doesn't really say much other than little vague nuggets, but he doesn't act like a total tool. Then there is you. Damn.....not mincing words this morning. Like it!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: When you act like you have all the answers, but never actually share anything of substance, and 95% of your posts are just stupid condescending one liners, that is what you get. I've yet to see you provide any sort of accurate insight, yet you continue to act like you have some in to the Sox FO. I think you're full of s%*#. It's one thing to be someone like Pal that doesn't really say much other than little vague nuggets, but he doesn't act like a total tool. Then there is you. Don't fret. You're still my favorite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said: IF they actually receive a good return I'd be open for it. Don't think he is here beyond next season. I think Gio is as good as gone, be it now or in the offseason. Getting something outweighs letting another starter walk for nothing, but I have little faith Hahn gets value in return and also replaces him with a quality replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chw42 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 30 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Quintana is more valuable to the Cardinals cause their defense is so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) Edited December 2, 2022 by Sleepy Harold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Capn12 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Hey, at least we got.....<reads notes>....Mike Clevinger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Someone we should have signed last year for one year for less than Joe Kelly got. *sigh* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Someone we should have signed last year for one year for less than Joe Kelly got. *sigh* And yet this is still likely an awful move. That is too much money and 1 yr too many to give to an older reliever (or a non elite closer period). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, Chisoxfn said: And yet this is still likely an awful move. That is too much money and 1 yr too many to give to an older reliever (or a non elite closer period). Oh I was referring to last year. There were about 7 deals I liked better than the Kelly deal heading into last season. Now, yeah that is likely going to be bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 12/1/2022 at 6:02 PM, Tnetennba said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Stupid money 5 years $185 million 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: Someone we should have signed last year for one year for less than Joe Kelly got. *sigh* Martin was one of the relief arms I was advocating for the Sox to sign last winter. There's 0 meaningful difference between the type of reliever who's available for 1 year ~5M vs 2 or 3 years at an AAV in the 10M range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Maybe it's a non starter since he's a Boras client, but this would be a good time to get aggressive with an extension for Cease. There might still be a window to get one done considering he's still 3 years from free agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said: Maybe it's a non starter since he's a Boras client, but this would be a good time to get aggressive with an extension for Cease. There might still be a window to get one done considering he's still 3 years from free agency. If Cease pitches the next 3 years close to this one, he's in line for at least a $250M contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: If Cease pitches the next 3 years close to this one, he's in line for at least a $250M contract He hasn't missed a start due to injury since debuting in the majors. I'm not sure what else you could want to see to invest big money in him long-term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: He hasn't missed a start due to injury since debuting in the majors. I'm not sure what else you could want to see to invest big money in him long-term. We would need to see another ownership group. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: He hasn't missed a start due to injury since debuting in the majors. I'm not sure what else you could want to see to invest big money in him long-term. Sox won't sign him to that kind of deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Maybe it's a non starter since he's a Boras client, but this would be a good time to get aggressive with an extension for Cease. There might still be a window to get one done considering he's still 3 years from free agency. Speaking of that, isn’t Vaughn a FA after the 26 season? Spotrac has him after 27. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Just now, fathom said: Speaking of that, isn’t Vaughn a FA after the 26 season? Spotrac has him after 27. Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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