bmags Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I uh...think we should sign Wacha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4uckOffCommieScum Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I’d say sign sign Grienke but I don’t think the Sox would be good for his mental health 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, bmags said: I uh...think we should sign Wacha. They should try to bring him and Alex Reyes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, bmags said: I uh...think we should sign Wacha. Wacha seems sooo Cueto-y for me. Fantastic year in 2022 after ~ years of meh. I don't like buying those guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: They should try to bring him and Alex Reyes in. I am in on Alex Reyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Wacha seems sooo Cueto-y for me. Fantastic year in 2022 after ~ years of meh. I don't like buying those guys He had a big year bur weren’t his peripherals pretty weak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4uckOffCommieScum Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Wacha seems sooo Cueto-y for me. Fantastic year in 2022 after ~ years of meh. I don't like buying those guys Yeah but that’s the best you’re going to get at this point. I’d definitely rather have Wacha and Martin than just Martin. Could role the dice on Pineda, Minor, Bundy or Archer. I would actually like Grienke for one year. I love that guy but I seriously don’t think the Sox would be a good idea. I can’t help but wonder if he’s pals with Grifol, though Edited January 24, 2023 by FourEyesShottenhoffer Phantom smiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 46 minutes ago, bmags said: I uh...think we should sign Wacha. Â 23 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I am in on Alex Reyes Yes to both. f*** it, give me Ken Giles too. I don't care if his right arm is barely attached to his body, just get some possible boom or bust arms in here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 36 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Wacha seems sooo Cueto-y for me. Fantastic year in 2022 after ~ years of meh. I don't like buying those guys Gotta tell ya, there’s not much out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 25 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: He had a big year bur weren’t his peripherals pretty weak? .260 BABIP is pretty low but not the lowest of his career. FIP of 4.14 isn't terrible, was the best he put up in years, but was also quite a bit higher than his ERA. K rate didn't look that weird compared to the rest of his career, down a little from 2021 but same as he put up in 2016 and 2019. His walk rate the last 3 years is quite a bit better than in previous years in his career. Maybe he was a little bit lucky but yeah I look through this and think that this is a pitcher who would put up an ERA around 4 doing what he did last year most of the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: .260 BABIP is pretty low but not the lowest of his career. FIP of 4.14 isn't terrible, was the best he put up in years, but was also quite a bit higher than his ERA. K rate didn't look that weird compared to the rest of his career, down a little from 2021 but same as he put up in 2016 and 2019. His walk rate the last 3 years is quite a bit better than in previous years in his career. Maybe he was a little bit lucky but yeah I look through this and think that this is a pitcher who would put up an ERA around 4 doing what he did last year most of the time? The other good news is Hahns best decisions are the ones where he has no choice. Cueto because Lynn was injured, and Andrus gets waived right when TA goes down. Any fantasy league person could have done that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 With the rumor of Royals having other potential deals close and them being optimistic about bringing back Greinke, you gotta think one of their SP is on the move, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Because it's the Rockies, I have no idea what Freeland's trade value would be, but anyone got thoughts on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 24 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: With the rumor of Royals having other potential deals close and them being optimistic about bringing back Greinke, you gotta think one of their SP is on the move, right? Spitball trade just for fun: Daniel Lynch + Nicky Lopez for Christian Mena + Wes Kath + Luis Mieses. Mena R5 eligible in December, Mieses already was.  Is that enough for the Royals to part with 5 years of Lynch? He wasn't exactly great in 2022, but I love the arm. Might have to include one of JRod/Ramos/Sosa instead of Kath to make that work, and if that's the case, I'd probably rather aim for a better arm with a little less control.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 17 hours ago, FourEyesShottenhoffer said: I’d say sign sign Grienke but I don’t think the Sox would be good for his mental health Greinke hates us. He's never coming here. Not that we should want him either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Spitball trade just for fun: Daniel Lynch + Nicky Lopez for Christian Mena + Wes Kath + Luis Mieses. Mena R5 eligible in December, Mieses already was.  Is that enough for the Royals to part with 5 years of Lynch? He wasn't exactly great in 2022, but I love the arm. Might have to include one of JRod/Ramos/Sosa instead of Kath to make that work, and if that's the case, I'd probably rather aim for a better arm with a little less control.  That seems like a lot for Lynch given he's had two really bad years (MLB) in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: That seems like a lot for Lynch given he's had two really bad years (MLB) in a row. Is it? Sox #8, #20 and #22 prospects per Fangraphs latest list, in what is a bottom tier and top heavy farm. Royals aren't going to hand over 5 years of control on Lynch and 3 years of Lopez for trash. Gotta give up something. But yah, also realize Lynch and Lopez aren't exactly game changing players, but assuming Clevinger never pitches for the Sox, we really need a guy who can give us decent innings.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Is it? Sox #8, #20 and #22 prospects per Fangraphs latest list, in what is a bottom tier and top heavy farm. Royals aren't going to hand over 5 years of control on Lynch and 3 years of Lopez for trash. Gotta give up something. But yah, also realize Lynch and Lopez aren't exactly game changing players, but assuming Clevinger never pitches for the Sox, we really need a guy who can give us decent innings.  both players seem to be AAAA fodder for me (at this point).  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said: both players seem to be AAAA fodder for me (at this point).  That's fair. I too would like to do better, but trying to be realistic. I'd be happy to trade one of JRod or Ramos as the headliner for player that can give a bigger impact with less control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 33 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: That's fair. I too would like to do better, but trying to be realistic. I'd be happy to trade one of JRod or Ramos as the headliner for player that can give a bigger impact with less control. 100%. We absolutly more guys in the ilk of Lynch/Lopez, but I wouldn't be trading Mena + + for them.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jack Parkman Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) On 1/24/2023 at 4:24 PM, bmags said: I uh...think we should sign Wacha. I would love it just for stuff like this  Wacha was a legitimately better pitcher than Clevinger in 2022. Edited January 26, 2023 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: I would love it just for stuff like this  Wacha was a legitimately better pitcher than Clevinger in 2022. They really should sign Wacha. I’d also take a flyer on Ken Giles and would trade prospects for someone good and cost controlled in outfield or 2B.  Better to have a 200M payroll with a few more parts so you have somewhat of a chance to contend vs be at 185 190 and fall way short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 9 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: I would love it just for stuff like this  Wacha was a legitimately better pitcher than Clevinger in 2022. and it was his only year better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Justus Sheffields DFA period is up today. Hopefully he made it to the Sox. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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