ChiSox59 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, SCCWS said: Only if we upgrade the position! This is kinda my concern. I fully expected Pollock to be back, but now we need two OFs. I guess worst case Sheets can hold down LF until Colas arrives, but Pollock honestly would have been useful to have around for what really amounts to a net cost of $8M. Now if that $8M is intelligently reallocated, it could be good news, but IMO the Sox are slightly worse today than they were this time yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: This is kinda my concern. I fully expected Pollock to be back, but now we need two OFs. I guess worst case Sheets can hold down LF until Colas arrives, but Pollock honestly would have been useful to have around for what really amounts to a net cost of $8M. Now if that $8M is intelligently reallocated, it could be good news, but IMO the Sox are slightly worse today than they were this time yesterday. I’d be on the Tommy Pham train for right-handed hitting 4th OF but he seems like a d-bag. Maybe Pillar at like $1 mill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, SCCWS said: Only if we upgrade the position! The bar is not set very high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I wonder if this was a handshake agreement and why they played him throughout the end of the season. If he was benched or released the last month of the season for Engel wouldn't he have lost a few million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: I wonder if this was a handshake agreement and why they played him throughout the end of the season. If he was benched or released the last month of the season for Engel wouldn't he have lost a few million? No. The incentive was on the option year, not the buyout. If he had stopped at 200 plate appearances, his contract option would have been $11 million, his buyout would have been $5 million. He would have turned down $6 million yesterday. Since he passed 450 plate appearances, his contract option was $13 million, but his buyout was still $5 million. He got extra money available to him by playing a lot this year, and now he had to turn down $8 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 "He bet on himself!" What a gift to the Sox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said: He was a bust but I don't blame him if he despises the organization like most of us do. I don't despise the White Sox franchise, I despise the Reinsdorf organization and can't wait until he sells the Sox, I'm not getting any younger. He might have said from the start he would go back west after one season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 AJ gave the Sox and Sox fans a gift. Thank you. The surprising thing is, he was one guy that held up physically. Usually he is guaranteed a lot of down time. 3 of the past 4 seasons he's put up less than a 1 WAR. I don't think he's making any money here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Apparently Kevin Kiermaier has an option with the Rays likely to be turned down. He missed a lot of 2022 with an injury and hasn't been the paragon of health in recent years, but clearly he can be a defensive backup in CF as well as the other OF positions. As a part time player, he seems like a perfect fit. https://www.si.com/mlb/rays/news/tom-brew-my-two-cents-tampa-bay-rays-outfielder-kevin-kiermaier-fresh-off-hip-surgery-says-i-will-be-back-but-will-he 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I wonder if picking up Engels deal for ~2 million because a possibility as our 4th (I don't mind him as a 4). That would still give us an additional 6 million to spend elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I wonder if picking up Engels deal for ~2 million because a possibility as our 4th (I don't mind him as a 4). That would still give us an additional 6 million to spend elsewhere. I certainly hope not. You can easily find the same level or lack thereof production out of a league minimum guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Apparently Kevin Kiermaier has an option with the Rays likely to be turned down. He missed a lot of 2022 with an injury and hasn't been the paragon of health in recent years, but clearly he can be a defensive backup in CF as well as the other OF positions. As a part time player, he seems like a perfect fit. https://www.si.com/mlb/rays/news/tom-brew-my-two-cents-tampa-bay-rays-outfielder-kevin-kiermaier-fresh-off-hip-surgery-says-i-will-be-back-but-will-he As the Rays are my second favorite team while watching just about every game I have always thought Kiermaier was the best center fielder in MLB but the guy just cant stay healthy and it's a damn shame. He would make a great 4th outfielder and I would sign him in a heartbeat if there was a guarantee that he could stayed healthy but of course there are no guarantees, so....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: I certainly hope not. You can easily find the same level or lack thereof production out of a league minimum guy. Agree, Engel regressed last year, he's expendable. Edited November 9, 2022 by The Mighty Mite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: I certainly hope not. You can easily find the same level or lack thereof production out of a league minimum guy. yes. Far too many recommendations to pay for depth right now. Paying $5-$10 mill for ceiling 2 WAR guys is a quick way to waste $5-$10 million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 42 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Apparently Kevin Kiermaier has an option with the Rays likely to be turned down. He missed a lot of 2022 with an injury and hasn't been the paragon of health in recent years, but clearly he can be a defensive backup in CF as well as the other OF positions. As a part time player, he seems like a perfect fit. https://www.si.com/mlb/rays/news/tom-brew-my-two-cents-tampa-bay-rays-outfielder-kevin-kiermaier-fresh-off-hip-surgery-says-i-will-be-back-but-will-he Cubs are a likely spot I’ve heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, fathom said: Cubs are a likely spot I’ve heard So you're saying he'd be willing to play in Chicago? This makes a ton of sense. Shouldn't even take all of Pollock's money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Adam LaRoche and now AJ Pollock have given Rick Hahn two mulligans on bad acquisitions. That's $21 million saved there. Rick Hahn is a very bad ML GM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: This is kinda my concern. I fully expected Pollock to be back, but now we need two OFs. I guess worst case Sheets can hold down LF until Colas arrives, but Pollock honestly would have been useful to have around for what really amounts to a net cost of $8M. Now if that $8M is intelligently reallocated, it could be good news, but IMO the Sox are slightly worse today than they were this time yesterday. Yeah. Hopefully it gets properly allocated to shoring up the bullpen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 5 hours ago, T R U said: The bar is not set very high We added Pollock and Harrison last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 6 hours ago, T R U said: The bar is not set very high If you're playing limbo, that makes it harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I’m still struggling to understand this. Where the hell could he land with his numbers, age, splits? Who would want him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Greg Hibbard said: I’m still struggling to understand this. Where the hell could he land with his numbers, age, splits? Who would want him? I could absolutely see the Dodgers taking him back for a couple million next year. They have several OF openings and how much do you really believe in Trayce Thompson? They could use the depth. It's creepy because I say this for seemingly everyone but he fits the Astros. Plays some DH, plays some LF so that Alvarez doesn't play there full time, occasionally plays CF, Tucker is in RF. Cheap, Aledmys Diaz is a free agent so they have open spots on their bench, as is Mancini, they got nothing from Diaz or Mancini in the playoffs anwyay. In terms of competitive teams, there's a fair amount of demand for outfielders, especially as injuries hit once the year starts. One can definitely keep going on that list. Someone like the DBacks, if he really wanted to go to Arizona, could certainly take a guy like that and play him part time, especially if they made it clear they might trade him at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Greg Hibbard said: I’m still struggling to understand this. Where the hell could he land with his numbers, age, splits? Who would want him? Sometimes money isn't the driving force. But for fans there are two kinds of athletes. Greedy who only care about the money and not winning and stupid ones who walk away from better paying contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Plus AJ is basically $5MM ahead right now, so he can be had at a pretty good discount for the next team, thus making him more attractive to teams who are looking for a bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 21 hours ago, HOFHurt35 said: Adam LaRoche Dunn and now AJ Pollock have given Rick Hahn two mulligans on bad acquisitions. That's $21 million saved there. Rick Hahn is a very bad ML GM. FIFY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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