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5 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:

It may have already been mentioned, but Robert Murray said something about the Clevinger deal not being a straight 1yr/$12M deal. That there is a 2nd year option and with the buyout it will reach $12M. Mentioned something about creatively shifting the money around.

 

So maybe since the first report we heard was "more than $8M" it could end up being something like 1 yr/$8.5M with a 2nd year option for "xxx" amount or a $4M buyout. We might end up with a few extra million for 2023 to work up to Jerry's self-imposed budget.

Where did he mention this?

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On 12/1/2022 at 12:47 PM, Chisoxfn said:

$10M for a guy with a 4.90 ERA over 145 starts. Man this is like giving Vince Velasquez 10M per year.  I get it - he has 130 innings split over 2 years that have been way better than the rest of his career - but its still just a handful of starts in each of those seasons, so SSS.  

I never understood Velasquez and this feels that way when you put the $10M on it.  

Giolito 4.33 over 147 starts

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35 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

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If Clevinger were super good, he’d have a 2nd year option at like $19.5 million that he’d potentially take. It would make sense for both sides to use that as a way to get a slightly higher guarantee this year and a slightly lower second year number.

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Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

I guess my question is if we exercise the mutual option for 2024 and Clevinger declines, are we off the hook for the $4M?  I assume the answer is yes, which would make this an ever better deal.

Same question I had. 

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2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I guess my question is if we exercise the mutual option for 2024 and Clevinger declines, are we off the hook for the $4M?  I assume the answer is yes, which would make this an ever better deal.

No. Option has to be exercised by both parties. It's either a 1/12 or 2/20 deal. 

It's just deferring $4M until next year. 

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10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I guess my question is if we exercise the mutual option for 2024 and Clevinger declines, are we off the hook for the $4M?  I assume the answer is yes, which would make this an ever better deal.

Mutual options are never exercised by both.. Basically it's a 1 year 12 million with 4 million of it deferred to after next season. The Sox will be on the hook for the additional 4 million even if they exercised it.

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19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I guess my question is if we exercise the mutual option for 2024 and Clevinger declines, are we off the hook for the $4M?  I assume the answer is yes, which would make this an ever better deal.

That is not usually how mutual options work. Would be fantastic if Hahn was able to convince Clevengers representation To do that though.

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